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Old December 22nd, 2005, 04:24 PM   #221
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May be we can agree to disagree because the 'De Rotterdam' is one of the best buildings I've seen being proposed in Rotterdam ever.

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Old December 23rd, 2005, 12:04 AM   #222
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Yeah, it's not a slender tower, but it is an impressive piece of mass density. Ultra Urbanism! With Offices, apartments, Cinema, Hotel, restauranst, pubs, parking, swimmingpool, healthclub and more small amenities!

This building is Urban!















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Old December 23rd, 2005, 02:33 AM   #223
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Sorry but realy its realy bad imo,they will regret this .
and its not a skyline on its own ,its one big...thing..i have no words for it..i know im known to not be nice when it comes to Rotterdam ,but this is one building that scares the shit out of me,and if thats what people call urban development than id rather go back to the stoneage and live in a cave.
like i said the other projects are seriously of better quality and its a shame the volume of this building isnt being used to contruct 2 or 3 slender towers ,a damn shame!
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 01:27 PM   #224
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Have fun in you cave while others are enjoying their modern urban life.
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 03:20 PM   #225
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Have fun in you cave while others are enjoying their modern urban life.

Oh i will ..lol.....i just dont see how others enjoy such a zitt in their city.

This ofcourse is just my opninion,id like to see more reactions about it....maybe its just me...huh?
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 05:00 PM   #226
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We'll it's clear this building is controversial... Some really hate it, some love it. I love all buildings which are big and/or tall. I love slender buildings, but massive buildings too.

What I like most in this building (it's not a tower), is that it's an urban fabric at it's best! togehter with the slender residentials up to 160 meters behind it I think it will add nice to the pier...
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 05:16 PM   #227
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you're not alone

Marcobruls, you are not the only one.
This building is a nightmare and I hope it will never be built.
Look at the sheer size: a huge mass blocking the view from the right bank of the river, dwarfing the Earsmus bridge and any cruiseliner docking, it will be looming over you if standing on the quay.
This building is an artist's folly. Density, canyons and urban feelings are concepts only in city planners minds. This is a building wanted by architects, freaks and urbanologists, not by the people.
And guess who designed it? Koolhaas. Ever visited a Koolhaas and interviewed the occupants? Are they ever satisfied with the daily use of the artist's vision? Koolhaas is a great man, but not a very practical one. This building will take ages to build and it will be a super-Scheepmakerstoren.
Ask the 3 consecutive Mayors of Porto, who witnessed the progress of the Casa da Musica. Yes, it's finished by now, but do not ask how. For a Portuguese, being slow is not a problem, but this Koolhaas beat everything. It was impossible to build.
Just look at the shape of De Rotterdam and you can imagine what is going to happen. The scandal of De Rotterdam?
With this building Rotterdam is back in the 1990s: the hubris years. A planner's delight, a citizen's nightmare. Such a building will create a feeling of anonimity and breed only violence. O, I am sorry, that is urban? Right.
Rotterdam does not need a building like De Rotterdam. It will eat away at other developments, drain the older quartes of its middle and upper classes as well as amenities. It will turn the Wilheminapier into a ghetto for white yuppies and the older quarters into black and muslim quarters.
Better develop townhouses and appartments in smaller buildings in areas like Delfshaven, Feijenoord and Noord. That's another vision of density and urban life.
Just my 2 cents....
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 05:33 PM   #228
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This building is an eyesore. Hope it will never be built.
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Old December 25th, 2005, 02:15 AM   #229
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Old December 25th, 2005, 01:20 PM   #230
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I see that Keezy was already faster than me!

This tower will be 156-158 meters tall. Latest news say 158 meter. I think the design is definitly beautiful, high quality facade and an excellent rooftop

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Old December 25th, 2005, 08:18 PM   #231
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I think I agree. on the first sight it doesn't look special. but when you look closer, especially at the top section, you will discover a few nice feautures. and it looks great in white.
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Old December 25th, 2005, 08:52 PM   #232
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De Rotterdam is really huge and awesome building. I like its monstrous and giant appearance.
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Old December 25th, 2005, 11:42 PM   #233
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Marcobruls, you are not the only one.
This building is a nightmare and I hope it will never be built.
Look at the sheer size: a huge mass blocking the view from the right bank of the river, dwarfing the Earsmus bridge and any cruiseliner docking, it will be looming over you if standing on the quay.
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Hmmm, those are exactly the reasons I like the Rotterdam. With the Maastoren, Montevideo and New Orleans in its direct vicinity, it will just look überurban.

That render of New Orleans looks nice. A slender and not very spectacular, yet classy building.
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Old December 26th, 2005, 11:35 PM   #234
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Yup, that New Orleans Render is great! 2 towers of about 160 meters will start construction this year! But what we really want is 200+...
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Old December 27th, 2005, 12:46 AM   #235
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New orleans looks great!but i think they need to put a spire on it itl make it look better to the top.this is the best in Rotterdam for sure.
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Old December 27th, 2005, 12:26 PM   #236
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very intersting thread. interesting and partially amazing projects, but esp. De Rotterdam is so ugly and way to massive...
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Old January 7th, 2006, 01:22 AM   #237
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Old January 7th, 2006, 01:39 AM   #238
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Wow alot of cool stuff is getting built! Cool!
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Old January 8th, 2006, 01:14 AM   #239
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Nice sky there! New Orleans, although it is pretty high for the region, does not look really what i'd expected of it... too bad. Rest of the construction plans are great and I'm looking forward to seeing them build!
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