DA to take Johannesburg?

[Inertia]

So with the 2011 municipal elections fast approaching, what are your guys opinion on the DA taking our beloved Joburg? I haven't seen much speculation in the media regarding the possibility, and would be very interested to know if there is any chance of this happening.

IMO this is Joburg's only real solution to all its problems!

Have a look at www.dajhb.co.za , not very interesting, mostly pics of Joburg being dilapidated. Would love to know of the DA's plan of action for Joburg, because if they control Cape Town AND Johannesburg they will be in a VERY powerful position.

[ToxicBunny]

There isn't much of a chance..

The DA might get a slightly stronger showing but they won't take JHB.

Personally the DA's road to leading this country is a long one, its not going to happen quickly.

[briker]

It would be awesome. Joburg will definitely get a new lease on life and put in a new league. But it will be tough love. DA will bring in western order and way of doing business, which I don''t believe black africans in townships are ready for yet.

[dysan1]

agreed, Cape Town was in a unique position due to its different population dynamic. I cant see the DA winning Joburg or Durban any time soon.

Also moved this to the Joburg Discussion forum due its Joburg focus.

[Andrew_za]

I don't think for the next +/-4 elections that the DA could have a outright win as they did in Cape Town, however, I do see their popularity increasing. This will also depend on how they continue (if so) to run Cape Town & the Western Cape.

[dysan1]

and thats a whole different discussion in another thread

[Inertia]

Interesting analysis. I would like to think that the majority of Joburgers have seen their city decline to a point where it is obvious that the ANC have failed. I wonder how many ANC supporters will jump ship.

Here's an email posted on the mybroadband forum that was supposedly sent out by the DA. Looks more like someone from the general public urging people to vote DA:


We MUST WIN JHB now OR it will be lost forever with many other cities in South Africa


Voting in the forthcoming BY ELECTIONS is considerably more important than you think.
In fact it is a matter of DO OR DIE.

PLEASE READ THE ATTACHED PDF – it makes our request VERY CLEAR.

If the DA does not win these local elections [ AND IT CAN IF YOU VOTE] , no other political party will ever get another chance.

JOHANNESBURG as a city –WILL NOT SURVIVE ANOTHER 5 YEARS.
Nor will most other municipalities RULED BY THE ANC.
The City of Johannesburg is bankrupt by approximately R15-billion!
And the current JHB-ANC municipality is not embarrassed to ask you to vote them back in?

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU REGISTER AND ARE IN TOWN ON THE WEEK-END once the dates are finally set for the elections.
It will be inexcusable IF YOUR VOTE DOES NOT COUNT !!

2011 South African municipal elections:
For you and I are probably more important than NATIONAL ELECTIONS , as these elections decide WHO IS IN CHARGE OF YOUR TOWN
And WHO IS IN CHARGE OF YOUR TOWN effectively means YOU VOTE IN OR OUT the political party who decides your fate in day to day living in your town.


Registration dates: 5 and 6 February
REGISTER WHERE YOU LIVE. VOTE WHERE YOU REGISTERED.

A new DA branch in the newly-created Ward 115 was founded on 15 January 2011.

Boundaries for Ward 115:
William Nicol Road
Malibongwe Drive
Witkoppen Drive
The highway

Voting stations for Ward 115 are:
Norscot Manor Recreation Centre
Fourways High School
Magic Beings Nursery School
Blandford Manor Conference Centre.

[Trelawny]

Would it be easier to win Tshwane,Ekurhuleni and West Rand? Then the ANC would be surrounded in Joburg and will force them to do better.

[Nostra]

It will obviosly not happen, the DA has limited itself as a Western Cape party, the ANC is taking over KZN the second-largest provincial economy, that will be the big story of the elections, how the ANC will make massive gains in KZN!

Joburg has never been in better condition considering its population, the economy has solid foundation, what you think is deterioriation is simply a result of the current infrastructure being unable to deal with the bigger population cruch unleashed by the end of apartheid. It is being addressed through unprecedented investment in infrastructure, see Gautrain, BRT, ORTIA, Highways. most other ANC cities are thriving economically, see PLK, Mbombela (Nel), BLM, PMB, the areas of weakness are the previously dirt-poor rural ghettoes of Areas Act...

You guys think DA rule is a panacea, has toiletgate and hout bay escaped your memory...

DA is gonna see dust in Jozi..

[Andrew_za]

Originally Posted by dysan1

and thats a whole different discussion in another thread

True, however still relevant to this one.

[hsark]

would be awesome if da won joburg

[wotwot]

like in 200011

[goliath01]

Sadly in the XXI century people continue too vote based on empty promises and on race. That said, I as an expat, and someone who is an investor to this country, have been too both JHB (birthplace) and CPT scouting my future home. The differences are alarming at best. CPT puts JHB in the bag when it comes too all the basic services required by any normal functioning state. Let me see if I can get this through another way, the DA isnt doing NOTHING SPECIAL, its doing what it was mandated too do by the population of the WC, something we consider normal in any other western country.
I dont vote because he or she is black or white, I vote who gives me better living conditions, but maybe, Im the idiot here?
I find it amazing that so many black SAns have acknowledged that the DA is indeed a better governing force, but will simply not vote due too its "pseudo white tendencies".

How can we have investor confidence in this country when we have a moron like Julius Malema screaming nationalization of everything? Who sings hatred songs against a minority race? Who incites racial division?
I ask of those who vote this party, HOW DO YOU EXPECT investors in SA like this?
Are you waiting for Zumas 500k job creation? Its gone and were sitting with a 1mil jobs lost.

Im at a loss for words when I see in the tabloids EVERY SINGLE DAY the amount of crime, corruption and decay that this mighty country has reached. But yet, they fast on the gun too talk about toilets and guys who were evicted because they were their illegally.
Those of you who do vote this once glorious party, you will be the ultimate loser. Those with money and power will be long gone before the shit hits the fan, and the jobs that you now praise, will be lost forever.

[dysan1]

Originally Posted by Nostra

It will obviosly not happen, the DA has limited itself as a Western Cape party, the ANC is taking over KZN the second-largest provincial economy, that will be the big story of the elections, how the ANC will make massive gains in KZN!

Joburg has never been in better condition considering its population, the economy has solid foundation, what you think is deterioriation is simply a result of the current infrastructure being unable to deal with the bigger population cruch unleashed by the end of apartheid. It is being addressed through unprecedented investment in infrastructure, see Gautrain, BRT, ORTIA, Highways. most other ANC cities are thriving economically, see PLK, Mbombela (Nel), BLM, PMB, the areas of weakness are the previously dirt-poor rural ghettoes of Areas Act...

You guys think DA rule is a panacea, has toiletgate and hout bay escaped your memory...

DA is gonna see dust in Jozi..

wow seems you bring your one dimensional view to every part of the forum you visit...

You lost all credibility with that post when you mentioned PMB and Mbombela as success stories...

[Inertia]

Originally Posted by Nostra

It will obviosly not happen, the DA has limited itself as a Western Cape party, the ANC is taking over KZN the second-largest provincial economy, that will be the big story of the elections, how the ANC will make massive gains in KZN!

Joburg has never been in better condition considering its population, the economy has solid foundation, what you think is deterioriation is simply a result of the current infrastructure being unable to deal with the bigger population cruch unleashed by the end of apartheid. It is being addressed through unprecedented investment in infrastructure, see Gautrain, BRT, ORTIA, Highways. most other ANC cities are thriving economically, see PLK, Mbombela (Nel), BLM, PMB, the areas of weakness are the previously dirt-poor rural ghettoes of Areas Act...

You guys think DA rule is a panacea, has toiletgate and hout bay escaped your memory...

DA is gonna see dust in Jozi..

I've been living in California for the past 2 months and trust me, Joburg is nowhere near a functioning "world class" city. All the infrastructure dev's we are seeing are nice and all, but are just covering up many of the huge underlying cracks.

You might think I'm one of those typical SA bashers but truth is I've been here much longer than you, witnessed all, and been a big fan of all the new infrastructure dev's, and can safely say that DA is the only way out of this mess

[Inertia]

Oh, and saying something like "most other ANC cities are thriving economically" warrants an ignore

[Andrew_za]

It's fine for you to show your support for your political party of choice, but do not be closed minded, ignorant and get brainwashed into believing they are the only way forward. There is not truth at all about your belief that PMB is a thriving ANC run city, the same applies with Mbombela.

Originally Posted by dysan1

You lost all credibility with that post when you mentioned PMB and Mbombela as success stories...

So true.

[Mo Rush]

I highly doubt you would have had the Gautrain with the DA.

[Inertia]

Originally Posted by Mo Rush

I highly doubt you would have had the Gautrain with the DA.

As much as I love the Gautrain, I would take unqualified audits for all the public entities, actual pavements and roads that are maintained, service delivery, coherent urban planning, etc, over it. And who knows, they might have developed something similar, albeit not as flashy

[goliath01]

Originally Posted by Inertia

I've been living in California for the past 2 months and trust me, Joburg is nowhere near a functioning "world class" city. All the infrastructure dev's we are seeing are nice and all, but are just covering up many of the huge underlying cracks.

You might think I'm one of those typical SA bashers but truth is I've been here much longer than you, witnessed all, and been a big fan of all the new infrastructure dev's, and can safely say that DA is the only way out of this mess

Inertia, its no use replying. The fact is that many of those who are pro-anc supporters have never been past any of SAs borders. Thats why you get this mentality, the JHB/SA utopia. I mean dont these people see Pules posts here, the last one we saw was total chaos with JHBs world class African city motto.