Discussions | Western Australian Population thread

[larapinta]

Would higher buildings with more units transfer to cheaper apartments around the likes of Cockburn Central. Seems to me that if a developer can get more units into its development, each unit could be cheaper than a lower rise fewer apartments. Same infrastructure servicing more apartments has to make it cheaper, or am I totally off the mark!

[Nate Von Longneck II]

Originally Posted by larapinta

Would higher buildings with more units transfer to cheaper apartments around the likes of Cockburn Central. Seems to me that if a developer can get more units into its development, each unit could be cheaper than a lower rise fewer apartments. Same infrastructure servicing more apartments has to make it cheaper, or am I totally off the mark!

No.

Higher buildings would not lead to lower property prices.

In fact, apartments are almost without fail more expensive the higher they are.

[larapinta]

If the Fly in Fly Out (FIFO) workers actually put where they spend most of their time, (ie more than 6 months 1 day) country and remote regions may benefit form higher population bases and the city would not show inflated numbers of residents. The ABS is trying to encourage FIFO workers to actually put their usual place of residence as where they actually spend most of their year not where their families necessarity are. This would certainly give the regions a more equitable share of funding and allow for better facilities/infrastructure in the regions. I agree however that the population for Perth at this year's Census will be in the 1.7 - 1.8 million mark. Don't think Mandurah will be included in the metro figures though like the Gold Coast is not included in Brisbane's population count.

[larapinta]

I guess the higher you build residential towers, the more developers / sellers can ask for the view despite where they are built. Are views the most influential when it comes to pricing units?

[Nate Von Longneck II]

Originally Posted by larapinta

Are views the most influential when it comes to pricing units?

It has an affect on prices.

[PD]

Originally Posted by larapinta

If the Fly in Fly Out (FIFO) workers actually put where they spend most of their time, (ie more than 6 months 1 day) country and remote regions may benefit form higher population bases and the city would not show inflated numbers of residents. The ABS is trying to encourage FIFO workers to actually put their usual place of residence as where they actually spend most of their year not where their families necessarity are. This would certainly give the regions a more equitable share of funding and allow for better facilities/infrastructure in the regions. I agree however that the population for Perth at this year's Census will be in the 1.7 - 1.8 million mark. Don't think Mandurah will be included in the metro figures though like the Gold Coast is not included in Brisbane's population count.

ABS has already stated that it will include Mandurah in the next census figures for Perths Metro.

[pikopancho]

in which case Perth's population should be above 1.8 million.

[aaronaugi1]

Originally Posted by Nate Von Longneck II

No.

Higher buildings would not lead to lower property prices.

In fact, apartments are almost without fail more expensive the higher they are.

Peter Monks' (City of Perth) dissertation seems to disagree with this statement.

The average cost of PROVIDING additional apartments is most certainly lower. Whether they actually sell for a lower price is another story.

[andrewM]

Originally Posted by nazor

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Starting to..
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[hayds]

City      Growth      %         Estimated Population 
Melbourne 79 014      2.0%      4 077 036
Sydney    75 644      1.7%      4 575 532
Brisbane  38 960      1.9%      2 043 185
Perth     37 545      2.3%      1 696 065
Adelaide  15 047      1.3%      1 203 186
Canberra  6 258       1.8%      358 222
Hobart    2 686       1.3%      214 705
Darwin    2 623       2.1%      127 532

i thought mandurah was being included in the perth population from this year?

also other areas being included with Brisbane which would make it higher than 39k

[ryan79]

Nice, fastest growing state and capital city. The company I work for has already brought in several people on working visas and looking to add another 10-15 or so in the next few months.

Perth is where its at.

[PD]

Originally Posted by hayds

City      Growth      %         Estimated Population 
Melbourne 79 014      2.0%      4 077 036
Sydney    75 644      1.7%      4 575 532
Brisbane  38 960      1.9%      2 043 185
Perth     37 545      2.3%      1 696 065
Adelaide  15 047      1.3%      1 203 186
Canberra  6 258       1.8%      358 222
Hobart    2 686       1.3%      214 705
Darwin    2 623       2.1%      127 532

i thought mandurah was being included in the perth population from this year?

also other areas being included with Brisbane which would make it higher than 39k

When are these figures for?

[AndyGM]

June 2010, so 9 months old already. Perth population probably around 1.72 million at least by today.

Mandurah will be added to Perth after this years census.

[t3mpz]

Theres almost more people coming to Perth than Brisbane? With all that stuff going on there you woulda thought their increase would be highest in aus. Also interesting that more people are going to Melbourne rather than Sydney.

[PD]

Originally Posted by t3mpz

Theres almost more people coming to Perth than Brisbane? With all that stuff going on there you woulda thought their increase would be highest in aus. Also interesting that more people are going to Melbourne rather than Sydney.

Yeah but i would like to also see how many ppl are heading to Gold Coast.

[hayds]

sorry.... thought those were the new figures because they were just posted in the main pop. thread.

[BlakeneyJones]

i think u'll find that those numbers are the 'new' september 10 figures. so as of sep 10 ..

[aaronaugi1]

37,000 for the City of Perth is higher than I thought. I thought we were still hovering around the 20,000 mark.

[GAbE27]

Originally Posted by larapinta

Would higher buildings with more units transfer to cheaper apartments around the likes of Cockburn Central. Seems to me that if a developer can get more units into its development, each unit could be cheaper than a lower rise fewer apartments. Same infrastructure servicing more apartments has to make it cheaper, or am I totally off the mark!

Originally Posted by Nate Von Longneck II

No.

Higher buildings would not lead to lower property prices.

In fact, apartments are almost without fail more expensive the higher they are.

it could also create a nice little ghetto as well..