Egypt's 25th of January Revolution

[Montrealers]

VIDEO #Jan25 Day of Rage - Cairo http://vimeo.com/19512959

Stunnishing imag, i wish i was there!

[Montrealers]

More footage:
http://vimeo.com/19599346
http://vimeo.com/19539192

[Montrealers]

*US sends warships, troops to #Egypt
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/164038.html #jan25 #tahrir

*Sophistacated weapons made by Israel delievered to #Egypt http://bit.ly/ft61vQ #Egypt #Jan25 *French Link*

[Montrealers]

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



rofl:

[ifif07]

If Mubarak steps down today, what is most likely to happen is that omar sulleiman will take over and the same system will continue. We therefore have to take advantage of a weakened Mubarak to make fundamental amendments to the constitution to avoid having the same scenario over and over. The main amendments that come to mind without having looked at the constitution recently are the following:
1- Guarantee a real separation of powers (including the none interference of the military in the executive power, I also think that a parliamentary system is more suitable for Egypt)
2- Guarantee the basic human rights (including freedom a speech religion political affiliation, the right for a fair trial, the right of each person not to be detained more than 24hours without being prosecuted)
3- Guarantee a secular state
4- Guarantee of Multi-partisim (that includes the right to create a political party without any governmental authorization or the authorization of the parliament)
5- Guarantee that the presidential elections and the parliamentary elections are supervised by an independent judicial committee
6- Restrict the presidential terms as well as the parliamentary terms
7- Any emergency law is to be decided by the majority of the parliament
8- Concerning the executive power, give more powers and attributions to the prime minister to weaken the role of the president (That is the essaence of the parliamentary regime)
9- Strengthening the role of the parliament by granting it the right to impeach the president and Prime Minister (That is also the essaence of the parliamentary regime)

10- Guarantee a faster and more efficient justice
11- Guarantee the decentralization of the administration

[Azmat]

Originally Posted by ifif07

If Mubarak steps down today, what is most likely to happen is that omar sulleiman will take over and the same system will continue. We therefore have to take advantage of a weakened Mubarak to make fundamental amendments to the constitution to avoid having the same scenario over and over. The main amendments that come to mind without having looked at the constitution recently are the following:
1- Guarantee a real separation of powers (including the none interference of the military in the executive power, I also think that a parliamentary system is more suitable for Egypt)
2- Guarantee the basic human rights (including freedom a speech religion political affiliation, the right for a fair trial, the right of each person not to be detained more than 24hours without being prosecuted)
3- Guarantee a secular state
4- Guarantee of Multi-partisim (that includes the right to create a political party without any governmental authorization or the authorization of the parliament)
5- Guarantee that the presidential elections and the parliamentary elections are supervised by an independent judicial committee
6- Restrict the presidential terms as well as the parliamentary terms
7- Any emergency law is to be decided by the majority of the parliament
8- Concerning the executive power, give more powers and attributions to the prime minister to weaken the role of the president (That is the essaence of the parliamentary regime)
9- Strengthening the role of the parliament by granting it the right to impeach the president and Prime Minister (That is also the essaence of the parliamentary regime)

10- Guarantee a faster and more efficient justice
11- Guarantee the decentralization of the administration

I agree, Mubarak has to pave the way for democracy otherwise we'll just end up with the same shit again. We've had 4 presidents (I know, it's sad) so far and the least corrupt president was Anwar Al Sadat and he was pretty corrupt too.

[Montrealers]

People says that Gamal Abd el Nasser is corrupted, why is he? His wife asked him once to go to Alexandria for vacation. He refused and then said, wait till i get my salary. While Hosny Mobarak could have offered to Suzanne a trip to Italia or something huge. While Sadat, i can't really talk about him but he had Hosny Mobarak next to him which i believe makes him corrupted .

[Azmat]

Hosni Mubarak was a great president... the first few years. If Sadat knew what Mubarak was doing now I'm sure he'd be pissed.

[swerveut]

You guys should resume life now, but anti-Mubarak style. Have anti Mubarak posters inside your car windows, from your apartment buildings, from shops etc.... you should always honk nastily at the police that shed so much blood, collect every friday in massive gatherings in anti-Mubarak demonstrations, but otherwise just live life as is going.

This way, there will be no standoff, the protest will remain strong, there will be time to think strategy and re-group, etc etc. You have to show you are better than Mubarak but you dont support the fact that he employed those thugs to injure and kill so many people.

You should have never forget monuments for all injured and all martyed.

Dont turn people economically against you, continue the protest, but continue your lives as well. Protest in a style which does not let the world forget but also does not harm your own lives as well. Make the protest move from just Tahrir square to your everyday lives. Do civil disobedience!

[Montrealers]

OMGGGGGG

Someone have proof that Habib el Adly is the one who did the church explosion in Alexandria to stop the 25 february protest.


While a worker in egyptian bank have access to numbers called Aljazeera to help them because huge number dissapeared from Egypt economy likely to be money transfered outside

[Azmat]

Originally Posted by Montrealers

OMGGGGGG

Someone have proof that Habib el Adly is the one who did the church explosion in Alexandria to stop the 25 february protest.


While a worker in egyptian bank have access to numbers called Aljazeera to help them because huge number dissapeared from Egypt economy likely to be money transfered outside

I thought the group started after the explosion. wow... that is really low.

[xAbd0o]

Originally Posted by Montrealers

People says that Gamal Abd el Nasser is corrupted, why is he? His wife asked him once to go to Alexandria for vacation. He refused and then said, wait till i get my salary. While Hosny Mobarak could have offered to Suzanne a trip to Italia or something huge. While Sadat, i can't really talk about him but he had Hosny Mobarak next to him which i believe makes him corrupted .

It seems like that you know very very little about gamal abdel nasser.

If I told you that he used to kick Egyptians, Famous actors and actress out of there houses and give them houses to foreigners from the west. would that be enough for you to see the corruption side?

Everyone did good and bad, but really is that for the citizen' benefits or themselves? democracy should guarantee us the chance to talk what we think is right or wrong. we will no longer be scared of the government nor the president they will be scared of us, and taking these jobs will be just like a normal Egyptian going to work. they are working to serve us nothing special about them that what we want.

Originally Posted by Azmat

Hosni Mubarak was a great president... the first few years. If Sadat knew what Mubarak was doing now I'm sure he'd be pissed.

hehe, the guy you taking about was a leader in the army before that he was sucking on cows to drink milk. I wont be surprised if he don't have education at all. Great? what did he do that was great? can tell me?

He wasn't even elected, he was picked as a temporary president (I think by the army) and then when it's time for him to go he said give me a chance and let me stay bit longer and that was the case until he glued himself on power by emergency law.

what's so great about that start?

[xAbd0o]

Here ya azmat you asked about this,

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1102887

[Azmat]

The other guy already gave me the link, but thanks.

Originally Posted by xAbd0o

hehe, the guy you taking about was a leader in the army before that he was sucking on cows to drink milk. I wont be surprised if he don't have education at all. Great? what did he do that was great? can tell me?

He wasn't even elected, he was picked as a temporary president (I think by the army) and then when it's time for him to go he said give me a chance and let me stay bit longer and that was the case until he glued himself on power by emergency law.

what's so great about that start?

He fixed the infrastructure and repaired the economy. I take back what I said, he wasn't a great president but he did a few good things in the beginning.

He was elected president later by the people (fraud elections, probably).

[xAbd0o]

Originally Posted by Azmat

He fixed the infrastructure and repaired the economy. I take back what I said, he wasn't a great president but he did a few good things in the beginning.

He was elected president later by the people (fraud elections, probably).

wallahi ya 3am enta, mo7taram we 3ala 2ad neyatek.

Infrastrcuture? enta bethazar? the British build an amazing Egypt after the accient Egyptians. we simply had all our roads Huge trees in both side, it was all villas. just watch the b&w films and you will see Cairo better than London at the time.

Now mubarak came say good bye he destroyed everything! you can still find few places like that but they are in danger of extinct! you also only see then in the upper upper classes areas. (happily I live in one of those places in alex )

Economy, well that was only recent not when he started, he saw that countries making numbers he never knew they existed. and at the end of the day all these money goes into his pocket, does the average Egyptian benefits from it? nope! so it's useless IMO.

[xAbd0o]

Guys, I cant think of anytime when was Egypt under a democratic conditions.

let start with the ancient Egyptians, was all about Kings so that's no democracy.
Then we had those religion ages not quite sure
then we had those Turkish kings, still not democracy.
now the army is leading with no democracy.

If this actually work does this mean we going to have democracy for the first time in Egypt's history?

WOOW! I'm so proud to witness this tearful moment.

[Azmat]

Originally Posted by xAbd0o

wallahi ya 3am enta, mo7taram we 3ala 2ad neyatek.

Infrastrcuture? enta bethazar? the British build an amazing Egypt after the accient Egyptians. we simply had all our roads Huge trees in both side, it was all villas. just watch the b&w films and you will see Cairo better than London at the time.

Now mubarak came say good bye he destroyed everything! you can still find few places like that but they are in danger of extinct! you also only see then in the upper upper classes areas. (happily I live in one of those places in alex )

Economy, well that was only recent not when he started, he saw that countries making numbers he never knew they existed. and at the end of the day all these money goes into his pocket, does the average Egyptian benefits from it? nope! so it's useless IMO.

Egypt had good infrastracture back when it was a monarchy. I watched a European documentary about Egypt and it said that Mubarak built several new naval ports and airports in the beginning.

It's really sad the the monarch (who wasn't even Egyptian) stepped down almost immediatly but the president has to destroy everything before he leaves.

Btw, I also live in an elite area in Alexandria.

[xAbd0o]

true true, but do you really call the airports and ports an infrastructure? for me it sounds like a bribe to shut the army's mouth. but anyways they're used for his benefits in other ways too.

and ya

[Azmat]

The sad thing is that the bastard names them after himself.

[xAbd0o]

can you believe that the stunning, T3 of Cairo airport is now called Mubarak airport egypt69 haytarba2 el thread dah fo2 rasna we ba3den haynte7er law 3eref so