Egypt's 25th of January Revolution

[xAbd0o]

thats it masri kill him and deliver his head to my inbox

[UAE_isthebest]

GONE WITH MUBARAK! GONE WITH MUBARAK! GONE WITH MUBARAK! GONE WITH MUBARAK! w000t! hahaha ok.. well I'm quite angry and enthusiastic.. ><!

[xAbd0o]

dude you just awaked the flame inside me I wanna go out and scream for some reason damn you

[MASRI]

Originally Posted by xAbd0o

thats it masri kill him and deliver his head to my inbox

Simply more proof that authortarian regimes only care for their own safety and well-being; the police has no problem shooting at citizens and injuring hundreds. Numerous protests (in Egypt) have proven that, along with the Tunisian revolution.

[UAE_isthebest]

I have that feeling this whole day long!

EDIT:

I'm also quite scared... What if Mubarak's regime falls... Is there a big change that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over control?

[egypt69]

Originally Posted by MASRI

This DISGUSTS me in every possible way.

Church Calls on Copts to Boycott Day of Rage




A bunch of nonesense. The Church should keep out of politics! Aren't they the same people calling for "equal rights"?? Isn't this what the protests are all about? EGYPTIAN Rights? Or is it solely "Copts" rights that they violently protest for??? They are Egyptian, and should take part. I know many Copts who will, and I hope the vast majority ignore this nonesense propaganda.

+1

The Coptic Church, just like Al Azhar, are tools and puppets of the Regime. Both should be disassociated in any way from the Egyptian government, and both should GTFO from Egyptian politics.

Originally Posted by MASRI

Simply more proof that authortarian regimes only care for their own safety and well-being; the police has no problem shooting at citizens and injuring hundreds. Numerous protests (in Egypt) have proven that, along with the Tunisian revolution.

True. Infact, I think the Regime will make it worse from themselves if they choose to use live ammunition tomorrow, that will be an even BIGGER reason for anger, and things will get worse.

If the Regime is smart, they should play it cool, and let them vent their anger out, and it will die down. Ofcourse, I hope this doesn't happen though, we want to terrorize the regime

Originally Posted by UAE_isthebest

I have that feeling this whole day long!

EDIT:

I'm also quite scared... What if Mubarak's regime falls... Is there a big change that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over control?

No they will not, we've discussed there so much before, and as well as the things we've said before, the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood was too scared to take part, shows how uncomitted they are to the Egyptian people, and that all they want to do is gain power, and enforce their stone age laws on all of us.

[UAE_isthebest]

Oh ok.. I didn't read the whole forum because it's quite hard for me to understand every political thing. Many difficult English words

[xAbd0o]

if somehow this shakes Egypt and the regime runaway off there caves naked. I predict el baradie to take over and from then maybe El wafd party will take most the parliament seats until the next elections.

Thought el-baradie will have 12 years to prove himself no long than that.

[xAbd0o]

what? you think that the Tunisian riots deserved a thread in the Egyptian skyahwa and the Egyptian protest is worthless? we had two threads about this in the oasis yet you opened a new thread did anyone complain?

I think we should use this thread!

I have a feeling that nothing will happen and I'm going to feel sick for weeks as I don't want to put my hopes up as I did in the last elections. but I'm hoping something actually happen who knows maybe while I'm following this tomorrow if something happens I'll get excited!

[egypt69]

Then why did you guys start discussing the 25th revolution there? All the info, articles and discussions are there. Choose, either I close this thread, and rename the other thread to Tunisia Revolution & Egypt's 25th of January Protests. Or I close that thread and we talk here only.

[xAbd0o]

Well how about you leave both threads, we talk here about Egypt and there about Tunisia. when someone talks about Egypt there from now inform them and move there posts then warn them (I doubt if this going to happen, we'e angels )

[egypt69]

I'm going to move all the recent posts from there to here.

[egypt69]

Khalas, everything is good now. This thread is for the 25th of January protest, the other one is for Tunisia only.

[xAbd0o]

way to go Good job

[xAbd0o]

Okay guys, protests know about.

the one in Egypt obviously, there going to be other once outside Egypt

Tunisia and other Arab state (not sure maybe Saudi?)
New york I hear this going to be big they planned like 4-5 different locations for meet ups O_O
Toronto
Ottawa
Paris
London (OMG I WANNA GO!)
Berlin

not sure where else. but I can't go London sadly I hear Libyan friends of mine talk about a Libyan protest here in Manchester. also these day when ever I go place I find lots of Egyptians I went to Manchester university mosque to pray the other day and lots of Egyptians O_O on the bus there was an Egyptian lady talking on the phone so I hope something happen in Manchester too I'll certainly join let me know if there is any.

[MASRI]

Originally Posted by egypt69

Khalas, everything is good now. This thread is for the 25th of January protest, the other one is for Tunisia only.

Great work!

After Tunisia: Egypt - A Call for Revolution

Egyptian youth are optimistic about Egypt’s future and ready for change following recent revolutionary events in Tunisia. As they organize and mobilize the anti-Mubarak government protests on Jan. 25 through social network and education of their rights, some believe the protests will be futile.

Social Media

After 29 days of protesting injustice, stagnation and corruption, Tunisia’s ruler of 23 years, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, fled the country on Jan. 14. Many believe that the social network world played a large part in the revolution and Tunisia’s revolt has been dubbed, as Iran’s once was, the “Twitter Revolution.” Tweets, posts on Facebook groups and pages, and YouTube videos are also playing a major role in this upcoming protest in Egypt.

The protest event page on Facebook has 84,667 people attending as of Jan. 23. The event claims that attendees will be protesting corruption, torture, poverty, and unemployment. While many who do not have Facebook or access to internet are also expected to join the protests, some believe that the number of people who show up will not be enough to spark a revolution for Egypt’s 80 million citizens.

Asmaa Mahfouz, 25, filmed a video and posted it on Facebook, encouraging all Egyptians to attend the protest, which she said received thousands of views and comments in just a few days.

“I want everyone to attend because we are 80 million; if only one million attend then we will not accomplish anything,” she said. “The government is depending on the negativity and silence of the people because [they think] silence is a sign of acceptance although this is not [always] true.”

Mahfouz, who works at a computer company, said that people are enthusiastic about this protest and she has received a plethora of messages supporting her call to action and activism especially amongst young people. Nine out of ten unemployed are under 30 and half of the population in Egypt is under 30 years old.

Egyptians must demand the dismissal of the corrupt regime, and change for Egypt must come from within, she said.

“That’s the only way. Otherwise the government will never change. We need to stop being afraid and stop being apathetic. We deserve better,” she said.

Tunisia vs. Egypt

President Hosni Mubarak, 82, has ruled Egypt for 29 years now. Although elections will take place in September, most expect his son, Gamal, to take control if Mubarak doesn’t seek reelection.

With all the rush of enthusiasm and energy from many young Egyptians over Jan. 25, some still believe that attending the protest will not lead to positive change.

Ali Ashraf*, an employee who works for the government in Cairo, believes there must be change in the Egyptian system but the upcoming protest on Jan. 25, which happens to be an Egyptian national holiday, Police Day, that celebrates the service of police officers, may be ineffective, he says.

“For protests to be successful, they must be in a working day, because in days off people normally tend to stay home and want to enjoy the exceptional break,” Ashraf, 28, said. “Let's not forget that those who [were] invited to protest in Jan. 25 want to resemble what happened in Tunisia this month, so it is impossible to gather large number of people in a day off.”

Linking the events that lead to the Tunisia uprising to the protest in Egypt is incomparable, he said.

“In Tunisia, the revolution was not planned and no one [was] invited to it, it just came like that, which abated the ability of the security forces in dealing with the matter,” Ashraf said. “But, when the security forces know the date of the protest, which is intended to turn into a revolution, before its time by 10 days for sure they will be well prepared for it-- actually much more prepared than the protesters themselves.”

Another difference he believes between the Tunisian and potential Egyptian uprising is education. He believes the Tunisians educated themselves well beforehand and were well aware of their full rights.

“I highly respect what happened in Tunisia. It shows how much the people there are aware,” Ashraf said. “[Tunisians] are a group of people who learned and got themselves educated; they decided all together to fight for their rights and not to give up until they get it all. They knew pretty well that their dignity comes before their bread, and that their bread is related directly to their country’s policies. When our people follow such footsteps we will get the change we want. I am really frustrated from the many suicide cases by fire in Egypt since the Tunisian revolution.”

At least nine Egyptians have set themselves on fire from frustration of the government, following the suicide of Mohammed Bouazizi, 26, from Tunisia. It is believed Bouazizi’s self-immolation triggered the Tunisian uprising. Seven Algerians have also committed suicide for the same reason.

Revolution is achievable in Egypt, Ashraf said, but education and voting registration are crucial at this stage.

“Non-educated ones here are not just the illiterate people -- they are much more. They are every single person who doesn’t know his right or even call for his right. Protests and revolution will come later on as a result of this process.

“We need to register to vote as much as we can, and we need much more people to participate in elections. There is no doubt that the peaceful change is much better than the non-peaceful one,” he said. “Yeah, it will be hard to change through elections, but who said that change is easy anyway?”

Egyptians Abroad

Frustration with the Egyptian dictatorship regime is not only expressed by Egyptians who are living in Egypt. Egyptians living abroad are aggravated and also support protesting as a way of expression.

Nancy El-Gindy, an Egyptian living in Canada, believes protests are effective, even if it’s the minority.

“Historically protesting and causing instability within a country in general has made a difference, including in authoritarian countries,” El-Gindy, the 27-year-old historian, said. “They may take a while longer, but as long as the people continue to put serious pressure on the government and attract international attention, it is possible. This sort of thing needs real dedication to the cause and continued pressure - the smallest of changes will definitely not happen by saying that protesting won't work and instead staying at home.”

El-Gindy believes both education and protests are crucial in such situations.

They do go hand in hand, but some rights are innately understood, such as basic shelter and food. I think people already understand that there's widespread injustice, and that many of their rights are not met by the government. [Protests are] the only thing people that are totally oppressed can do, as long as it's peaceful.

Voices heard through protests

Other Egyptian youth believe that although attending protests will have minimal effect, voicing their concern via major protests can be pertinent and serve as a crucial precedent to the next major step for change.

22-year-old Egyptian English instructor, Haggar Haggag, has attended protests in Egypt before but witnessed no change afterwards.

“The problem is people don't see any effect for what they do, nothing changed, and more people die every day and nothing they do can change the Minister of Interior or make the police respect our rights. It's like nothing you can do will make a difference,” she said. “So they'd rather stay safe at home.”

“We should show up at the protests to express ourselves and to let the government and everyone know that we are well aware of our rights and we are not giving up. If protests don't work, everyone should do their best at what they do and start giving hope to others that tomorrow can be better if they started speaking up,” she said. “The greater the number of people who believe in a better Egypt, the stronger we are.”

Enough is enough

Attending protests, voicing concerns via social media, and educating others about the corruption and injustice in Egypt are all different ways of opposing the government. Although not all will take to the streets on Jan. 25, the majority of Egyptians generally agree on one thing.

Ahmed Azab, a 23 year old Egyptian who works in a contracting and trading company, shares the uniting view of Egyptians of all social classes, age and religion.

“Where’s the democracy? Why is Mubarak staying all of these years? And the most important thing is where is our human rights? … Mubarak is a great man and he did many things for us, but now he reached a level where he can’t do any correct and useful decisions for the Egyptians.”

Mahfouz still believes the protest will have a positive outcome and reiterates the importance of a large mass of attendance and advises the protesters who are attending to stand their grounds and be peaceful, and to arm themselves with their camera phones.

“We have to stay united and be hand-in-hand so that we become one united block. And the chants should be organized,” Mahfouz said. “If police officers try to obstruct anyone from joining the protests, then don’t leave – stay in your place, sit on the ground, and put your hand on your head as a way to show you are not going home and you are peaceful.”

http://www.illumemag.com/zine/articl...low-Suit-13452

[egypt69]

Originally Posted by xAbd0o

Okay guys, protests know about.

the one in Egypt obviously, there going to be other once outside Egypt

Tunisia and other Arab state (not sure maybe Saudi?)
New york I hear this going to be big they planned like 4-5 different locations for meet ups O_O
Toronto
Ottawa
Paris
London (OMG I WANNA GO!)
Berlin

not sure where else. but I can't go London sadly I hear Libyan friends of mine talk about a Libyan protest here in Manchester. also these day when ever I go place I find lots of Egyptians I went to Manchester university mosque to pray the other day and lots of Egyptians O_O on the bus there was an Egyptian lady talking on the phone so I hope something happen in Manchester too I'll certainly join let me know if there is any.

It should be noted that there is a change in location & time of #Toronto's protest: it will be conducted from 9:00AM to 12:00PM at Dundas Square.


Also, El Baradei addresses the Egyptian Police:

[xAbd0o]

Good

[xAbd0o]

It's 12:30 now in Cairo. 13 hours and half left.

Egyptian Lawyers are going to help whom going to end up in jail tomorrow

[xAbd0o]

Information about the protest tomorrow.

http://bit.ly/Egypt25

what do you guys think about what they going to yell tomorrow?

تحيا مصر .. تحيا مصر
عيش .. حرية .. كرامة إنسانية
حرية .. حرية .. حرية .. حرية
يا حرية فينك فينك .. الطوارئ بيننا وبينك
مش هنخاف مش هنطاطي .. إحنا كرهنا الصوت الواطي
شعب تونس يا حبيب .. شمس الثورة مش هتغيب
بالروح بالدم .. نفديك يا وطن
ارفع صوتك قول للناس .. احنا كرهنا الظلم خلاص
واحد اتنين .. احنا المصريين
صحي الخلق وهز الكون .. مصر بلدنا مش هتهون
لما شعب تونس قام .. هرب اللص والمدام
حد أدنى للأجور .. قبل الشعب ما كله يثور
حقي ألاقي شغل وأعيش .. والملاليم ما بتكفيش
يلا يا مصري صحي الروح .. الحرية باب مفتوح
يللا يا شعب عدّي الخوف .. خلي الدنيا تصحى تشوف
شعب حضارة ومجد سنين .. مش هيطاطي ليوم الدين

I made an english translation (kinda crap) let me know if you want me to post it here.