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Old January 25th, 2011, 01:28 PM   #1
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The Parkside Building | Birmingham City University| Curzon St| 5 fl | Comp.

http://bcu.ac.uk/news-events/news/uni-app-campus-plan

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University submits application for new campus plans. 25.1.11

Birmingham City University has this week submitted an application to city council planners relating to the first phase of an ambitious City Centre Campus scheme.

The University has submitted a reserved matters application to Birmingham City Council outlining the vision to create a purpose-built facility to house the world-class provision offered by the University’s Birmingham Institute of Art and Design (BIAD).

Intended to support the creative industries, the 18,000m2 building is to be strategically situated on a site in Birmingham’s Eastside - one of the largest regeneration zones in the UK - and will provide an important part of the planning jigsaw that makes up Birmingham’s Big City Plan.

The new centre of excellence will offer technology-based arts provision and feature TV, radio and photographic studios to underpin the University’s media courses. Specialist facilities include industry standard media production space, including four TV studios, radio studies and associated technical support space.

Impressions of the exciting new facility can be viewed at the University’s home page.
“This project is a significant development not only for Birmingham City University but the city as well through further support to the regeneration of Eastside,” said Project Director Peter Cochrane.
“Our City Centre Campus plans aim to support the creative industries, a crucial sector in both the regional and national economies, and will ensure we maintain our leadership in this field.
“The campus is also an important part of the planning jigsaw that makes up Birmingham’s Big City Plan - the most far-reaching, citywide development project ever undertaken in the UK.”
The new BIAD facility will be adjacent to the landmark Millennium Point building, already home to the University’s Faculty of Technology, Engineering and the Environment (TEE) and part of the Faculty of Performance, Media and English (PME).

The location of the new plot also provides the opportunity to converge some of the student support facilities within Millennium Point, including the re-modelling of over 3,000m2 of existing areas within TEE.
Can not find a planning application number. Here is a link to the renders as i'm not sure if we are allowed to post them http://www.flickr.com/photos/birming...n/photostream/
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Old January 25th, 2011, 01:44 PM   #2
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Interesting! I like the location (making use of the old VTP site), but i'm not too sure about the design. Especially as it seems they want to use the area to the rear as a car park!
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Old January 25th, 2011, 01:51 PM   #3
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What the....

Clearly not the product of a centre for world class art and design.

That design is utter tripe. There is clearly an agenda to ensure future travellers arriving on HS2 are affronted by a wall of bland, unimaginative shite.

Give me strength....
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Old January 25th, 2011, 02:16 PM   #4
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This is interesting, link to the Melllienuim Point..

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Old January 25th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #5
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Old January 25th, 2011, 02:36 PM   #6
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Old January 25th, 2011, 02:39 PM   #7
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finally this is now out into the public domain, and im allowed to speak about it....

personally this gets my vote, i think its a good scheme. there is interest, the built form is interesting and there appears to be a good variation in materials also. ok, it doesnt stand out as its own landmark, but i like it...

it looks a whole lot nicer also based on the tripe that could have been on the HS2 site...

what interests me is that this is phase 1 of the wider new city centre campus, but as of yet, no idea what the rest of the masterplan looks like!?
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Old January 25th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #8
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There appears to be a developing architectural theme between Millennium Point, IMAX and the new Jennens Road Car Park of a modern/ metalic building with defined clean lines, the renders suggest this a natural add on...and far better than previously proposed!

Ps. What's happening with the water feature between IMAX and Jennens Road, it looks to have been left to fall apart!
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Old January 25th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #9
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Hmm, it's uninspirational but unoffensive, I can't object to it too much. Definitely better than the thing that was proposed on the HS2 sight.

I just wish that these projects created more of an urban realm; if the council intends on integrating this area into the city-centre proper, they need to avoid business park-style projects like this. In particular, the back frustrates me because it just ignores the entire area behind it. Why can't we facilitate multi-frontage building designs that can be accessed from a number of different streets, opening up the entire area.

Looks quite nice at night though.
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I just wish that these projects created more of an urban realm; if the council intends on integrating this area into the city-centre proper, they need to avoid business park-style projects like this. In particular, the back frustrates me because it just ignores the entire area behind it. Why can't we facilitate multi-frontage building designs that can be accessed from a number of different streets, opening up the entire area.
I completely agree. I think the multiple access thing might be partly a security thing but I'll stand corrected if possible.

I don't expect an iconic design with every proposal that lands on the Planning Committee's doormat but this is going to be overlooking the spine of Eastside with a brand new internationally connected transport corridor opposite. I can only assume that the budget is immensely tight here so all focus goes on the interior.
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Old January 25th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #11
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Errr what an ugly boring design, this part of the city centre is just getting worse and worse.
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Old January 25th, 2011, 06:12 PM   #12
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Looks quite nice at night though.
It would seem they have a token wind turbine too... that only appears at night, unless they're showing the one on the new aston uni building behind??
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Old January 25th, 2011, 06:36 PM   #13
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Hmm, it's uninspirational but unoffensive, I can't object to it too much. Definitely better than the thing that was proposed on the HS2 sight.

I just wish that these projects created more of an urban realm; if the council intends on integrating this area into the city-centre proper, they need to avoid business park-style projects like this. In particular, the back frustrates me because it just ignores the entire area behind it. Why can't we facilitate multi-frontage building designs that can be accessed from a number of different streets, opening up the entire area.

Looks quite nice at night though.
whilst i do agree with you, you must remember that this is part of a materplan that we are yet to see. building do not need active frontage on all sides at all times, and buildings do need to be serviced. baring in mind that this building is a long way away from jennings road, im assuming another blokc will in the future go inbetween this block and jennigs road and enclose the rear of this block as part of an enclosed service yard... purely specilation but i think its just worth noting that it is often unfar to read the context of every proposed building in isolation....
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Old January 25th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #14
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I quite like that and it's a zillion times better than the last effort. As long as the finishes are good and there isn't acres of white render that'll look rubbish after a couple of years it'll be fine.

I agree with Nessy that it also sits with the Ormiston, IMAX & car park quite well.
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I like it too - there is a clear idea for this and I am guessing the sticky out sections are different classes/departments? Its height works well with Millennium Point and as Nessy and Foxy say it looks to have drawn inspiration from its neighbours. Interesting that they have connected it to Millennium Point - do BCU have much space in there?

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Interesting! I like the location (making use of the old VTP site), but i'm not too sure about the design. Especially as it seems they want to use the area to the rear as a car park!
I might be wrong but I think that car park is part of Millennium Point



It's good to see this moving and I heard that this should be starting soon - the site is pretty clear isn't it?
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This is what I consider should always have happened. I knew that BIAD were looking for a new home and suggested a linked walkway between the TEE and any future building in order to make the most efficient use of facilities for Engineering Design courses.

The TEE (or TIC) from what I remember desperately needed an expansion of their learning resource IT systems as most days, computing facilities were stretched to breaking point. Provided this acts as a standalone faculty with a linked walkway (ie the total systems and other facilities expands) - this addition can only be a really good thing. In many ways I was also hoping that a new Conservatoire were to be built here because of links to music technology courses and media facilties of the BIAD/TEE.

In a sense, one big engineering/design/arts campus.

This proposed building, whilst tidy, is grim. The materials will make or break this one.
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BCU have lost their vision on this one. It's an art school. Make it inspirational, with cleaver design and features. This new one, whilst being acceptable, has no merit, you see secondary school academies that look better than this!


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The TEE (or TIC) from what I remember desperately needed an expansion of their learning resource IT systems as most days, computing facilities were stretched to breaking point. Provided this acts as a standalone faculty with a linked walkway (ie the total systems and other facilities expands) - this addition can only be a really good thing. In many ways I was also hoping that a new Conservatoire were to be built here because of links to music technology courses and media facilties of the BIAD/TEE.
The solution was to move the library and student services out of Millennium Point and in to the new campus, this would have allowed for a larger area for computers on floor 5. I cannot see this happening with the new design.

One other key point was to create an area that felt like a university campus where students could socialise as well as work. The TEE has problems in the respect being on its own, and iBar was not the best solution. I do wonder if the new design will have space for a medium (600-1,000 people) music and entertainment venue with bars. Then again, most engineers find it hard to be social.

Which brings me on to the Conservatoire. Where is it going to go? It has to go in the next 5 or so years, and this site is not large enough for both BIAD and them. They will also have to build a new hall for performances.

I'm visiting TEE on Thursday, so I will ask so questions if I bump in to the right staff.
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Welcome to Blythe Valley Business Park in Bham City Centre. What an inspirational building as you enter our City on the train...
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i dont see business park, i see high quality building... and as someone else has said, imho the devil will be in the materials. this isnt the place for an icon.... its context doesnt lend itself toward anything like that (no long distance views, located within an existing building line etc.... ) so why do people also seem dissappoint when a building isnt a icon. i see nothing in the images we've seen that suggests this isnt a quality scheme?!?!
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