Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Course Expansion | Durham | Various | U/C

JetStreak · January 26th, 2011, 05:08 PM

There are plans to expand the Ramside Hall Hotel and increase the size of the golf course to 36 holes. The hotel already has planning permission for the hotel expansion and are currently seeking planning permission to build a small number of Executive Homes on the edge of the golf course to finance the hotel expansion.

The plans for the hotel include:

40 new rooms with views of the golf course
Spa with swimming pool, treatment rooms and hydrotheraphy pools
1000 seat conference centre/banqueting suite
Increasing the size of the golf course to 36 holes

The plan is to finance the expansion by building homes on two of the existing holes and converting nearby disused Hill Top Farm into housing. The executive housing proposed is exactly what is needed in Durham, especially if the City is to realise the potential of attracting top companies from the private sector to sites like the Ice Rink and Aykley Heads.

The plans for this are currently up for consideration by Durham County Council and can be viewed here: http://publicaccess.durhamcity.gov.u...=LELTOJBN5B000 Planning Docs here: http://82.113.161.89/WAM/showCaseFil...r=11/00006/OUT

The land is classed as greenbelt and there is currently a greenbelt consultation ongoing which is considering greenbelt land that could be used for new housing - the Ramside site is included. The greenbelt consultation can be found here: http://durhamcc-consult.limehouse.co...cument-1527050

In my opinion some of the proposals are a bit much but some, such as the Ramside proposal, are suitable. I'd encourage people to respond to the planning application and the greenbelt study as a balance of views is important, especially as the typical Durham view seems to be let's regress to the Stoneage.

Related links:
http://www.ramsidehallhotel.co.uk/ac...l-history.aspx
http://www.durhamtimes.co.uk/news/88..._the_North___/
http://www.durhamtimes.co.uk/news/81..._are_unveiled/
Google Maps link to the location

denm · January 27th, 2011, 11:37 AM

The Ramside has been a successful Hotel for some years now, ---and I suppose to extend it makes sense, ---and personally I think this is okay, ---but not so sure of the Houses they want to build on Green belt land, ---I think there will always be objections to such proposals, ---and it's just getting the balance right.

horokeio · January 27th, 2011, 08:28 PM

This is excellent news, both the improvements to the hotel and the executive housing whose sales will finance the project. It should bring a boost to the whole area.

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 27th, 2011, 11:21 PM

1 - I have amended this Project thread title to align with the standard SSC format.

2 - I have added the TAG . . . Project - Sunderland Area . . . so it will now appear (along with all Sunderland & Durham projects) when 'clicked'.

3 - I have recently sent a "PM" to NE 4 E with a list of a few amendments required for the Development Summary. I will now add this thread to that list (as well as the other new Project Thread, for 'Cooper Rose')

denm · February 16th, 2011, 11:29 AM

Opposition is growing to this, ---

Opposition to homes plan growsSponsored by Lumley Castle
Published on Tue Feb 15 12:05:20 GMT 2011

OPPOSITION to multi-million pound plans to expand a hotel are mounting.

Last month, Ramside Estates applied to build 34 houses near Ramside Hall Hotel.

Company bosses claim the development is essential to help finance the four-star hotel’s £17million expansion, which includes 44 bedrooms, nine extra golf holes, a 700-capacity banqueting suite and leisure facilities.

But more than 50 residents have objected to the proposal, claiming it will lead to a loss of green space and more traffic on Wantage Road.

Thomas Flower, who has lived on the street for more than 50 years, said: “Durham City is a World Heritage site that we are extremely proud of

Read more, http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/l...rows_1_3081329

JetStreak · February 16th, 2011, 08:12 PM

I could have written the objections for them myself, there's nothing new there.

The World Heritage Site line always makes me laugh. It's like saying we want a World Heritage site but we only want it for ourselves. We want to create a City that is unwelcome to visitors and we don't want to use the World Heritage site for our economic benefit.

If you consider the position of the site the greenbelt line is also particularly weak in this instance. Especially since the development is either on the golf course between the existing housing and the Ramside hotel or on the site of a disused farm which was pretty rundown last time I saw it. How this adds to the "urban sprawl" I'm not sure. In fact the development would serve as barrier to any further development as there would be no way to integrate it with the current housing. The development also contains extensive landscaping and tree retention to keep a rural look to the development and provide suitable privacy to the properties.

I think the only genuine objection that can be made is with regards to the traffic which is currently busy for a residential street. I do think the plans could go further to alleviate these concerns.

denm · February 17th, 2011, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetStreak

I could have written the objections for them myself, there's nothing new there.

The World Heritage Site line always makes me laugh. It's like saying we want a World Heritage site but we only want it for ourselves. We want to create a City that is unwelcome to visitors and we don't want to use the World Heritage site for our economic benefit.

If you consider the position of the site the greenbelt line is also particularly weak in this instance. Especially since the development is either on the golf course between the existing housing and the Ramside hotel or on the site of a disused farm which was pretty rundown last time I saw it. How this adds to the "urban sprawl" I'm not sure. In fact the development would serve as barrier to any further development as there would be no way to integrate it with the current housing. The development also contains extensive landscaping and tree retention to keep a rural look to the development and provide suitable privacy to the properties.

I think the only genuine objection that can be made is with regards to the traffic which is currently busy for a residential street. I do think the plans could go further to alleviate these concerns.

There are always going to be objections to most Developments, ----but I don't think these objections saying this Development will be sort of detrimental to the World Heritage site will hold water, ---but I do think maybe the concerns about the Traffic situation could be looked at.

***Newcastle Historian*** · December 6th, 2011, 10:15 AM

New golf course will be built at Ramside Hall
Hotel - there will be no Public Enquiry
by Neil McKay, The Journal, December 6th 2011

A HOTEL boss plans to start building a new golf course for the "Belfry of the North" early next year after learning his ambitious plans will not be delayed by a lengthy public inquiry.

The Secretary of State has decided not to call in an application by Ramside Estates to build 21 new homes near Ramside Hall Hotel and another 13 nearby at Hill Top Farm in Carrville, on the outskirts of Durham City. The sale of the land to developers will part-fund plans to turn Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Club into the “Belfry of the North”.

Delighted Ramside Estates director John Adamson said yesterday: “We can now press ahead with plans to polish the diamond, to give Durham a first-class resort of which it can be justifiably proud.” The plans include expanding the golf course to create a total of 36 holes, and Mr Adamson said: “I expect work on the golf course to begin early next year and plans for the expansion of the hotel to be well underway by this time next year.”

The £18m scheme also includes a spa, a 25-metre swimming pool, conference suite for 1,000 guests and 48 more bedrooms, bringing the total number in the hotel to 130.

Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1fkCSQQqO

denm · December 6th, 2011, 10:54 AM

Good news, ---the golf course will be a excellent facility for the Hotel, ---and could possibly help bring a major golf tournament to the North East in future years.

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 4th, 2012, 12:06 PM

Ramside Hall new golf course to rival the best in Europe
by Alastair Craig, The Journal, January 4th 2012

Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Course - Development Site

A NORTH East hotel is hoping to attract golfers from all over the world to the region, as work started yesterday on a new 18-hole championship course on the outskirts of Durham.

The project at Ramside Hall Hotel is the first stage of a multi-million pound leisure development which will also include 34 new luxury homes, a new conference and banqueting centre and a leisure centre.

Ramside Estates says the development will create 104 new jobs, generate an additional £11m of spending in the tourist economy and make the hotel one of the best golf resorts in Europe.

Estates director John Adamson said: “The £18m scheme also includes a spa, a 25-metre swimming pool, conference suite for 1,000 guests and 48 more bedrooms, bringing the total number in the hotel to 130."

Golf architect Jonathan Gaunt, of Gaunt Golf Design, built the original 27 holes at Ramside Hall, which opened in 1996. To create the new sporting facility, Gaunt will revamp four of the existing Cathedral Course holes, retire five existing holes, and add 14 new holes on the former farm land near Belmont and Pittington.

The development also includes 34 executive houses in secluded and picturesque locations bordering the golf course. The hotel expansion will begin late in 2012 with 48 new bedrooms set to be built increasing the hotel’s bed stock.

Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1iUDBpVlu

denm · January 5th, 2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

Ramside Hall new golf course to rival the best in Europe
by Alastair Craig, The Journal, January 4th 2012

Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Course - Development Site

A NORTH East hotel is hoping to attract golfers from all over the world to the region, as work started yesterday on a new 18-hole championship course on the outskirts of Durham.

The project at Ramside Hall Hotel is the first stage of a multi-million pound leisure development which will also include 34 new luxury homes, a new conference and banqueting centre and a leisure centre.

Ramside Estates says the development will create 104 new jobs, generate an additional £11m of spending in the tourist economy and make the hotel one of the best golf resorts in Europe.

Estates director John Adamson said: “The £18m scheme also includes a spa, a 25-metre swimming pool, conference suite for 1,000 guests and 48 more bedrooms, bringing the total number in the hotel to 130."

Golf architect Jonathan Gaunt, of Gaunt Golf Design, built the original 27 holes at Ramside Hall, which opened in 1996. To create the new sporting facility, Gaunt will revamp four of the existing Cathedral Course holes, retire five existing holes, and add 14 new holes on the former farm land near Belmont and Pittington.

The development also includes 34 executive houses in secluded and picturesque locations bordering the golf course. The hotel expansion will begin late in 2012 with 48 new bedrooms set to be built increasing the hotel’s bed stock.

Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1iUDBpVlu

Very good news, ---the Ramside Hotel has been a top Hotel for years, ---now this project to extend with more rooms, ---along with creating a Championship Golf course will be excellent for the Region.

JetStreak · January 25th, 2012, 09:27 PM

I've heard work has started on the new golf holes. Although I've not been to confirm it myself, I've no reason to think it isn't correct.

denm · January 27th, 2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetStreak

I've heard work has started on the new golf holes. Although I've not been to confirm it myself, I've no reason to think it isn't correct.

Great news Jet, ---think this will be very good news for the area.

JetStreak · January 29th, 2012, 10:36 AM

New Ramside course breaks ground
4 January 2012

Ramside Hall, a golf resort in County Durham in the north-east of England, is starting work on a £15m development that includes an eighteen hole golf course, spa, leisure centre and hotel expansion.

Source

denm · January 30th, 2012, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetStreak

New Ramside course breaks ground
4 January 2012

Ramside Hall, a golf resort in County Durham in the north-east of England, is starting work on a £15m development that includes an eighteen hole golf course, spa, leisure centre and hotel expansion.

Source

Think this Development will be excellent for the area and Region, ---great that it's beginning.

denm · June 6th, 2012, 10:36 AM

This from the Sunderland Echo, ---

New wing planned for expanding hotel

Published on Wednesday 6 June 2012 08:45

A HOTEL could get a new wing as it moves forward with expansion plans.

Ramside Hall, in Carrville, Durham, has already been given permission for 56 more bedrooms, redevelopment of its ballroom and a leisure and health spa.

The project also included an extension to its golf course, with plans for a housing development on the site as part of a £15million investment in the hotel.

Now the scheme is going back before planners to amend the design, scale and layout of the bedrooms and spa, by varying conditions put on the proposals when they were approved in 2005.

The application will be discussed by Durham County Council’s central and East Durham planning committee on Tuesday, June 12, with officers saying they recommend the change.

They believe it is sustainable in terms of economic, social and environmental terms and should go ahead without delay.

Read more http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/b...otel-1-4617277

January 26th, 2011, 05:08 PM	#1
JetStreak Born in Durham Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Course Expansion \| Durham \| Various \| U/C There are plans to expand the Ramside Hall Hotel and increase the size of the golf course to 36 holes. The hotel already has planning permission for the hotel expansion and are currently seeking planning permission to build a small number of Executive Homes on the edge of the golf course to finance the hotel expansion. The plans for the hotel include: 40 new rooms with views of the golf course Spa with swimming pool, treatment rooms and hydrotheraphy pools 1000 seat conference centre/banqueting suite Increasing the size of the golf course to 36 holes The plan is to finance the expansion by building homes on two of the existing holes and converting nearby disused Hill Top Farm into housing. The executive housing proposed is exactly what is needed in Durham, especially if the City is to realise the potential of attracting top companies from the private sector to sites like the Ice Rink and Aykley Heads. The plans for this are currently up for consideration by Durham County Council and can be viewed here: http://publicaccess.durhamcity.gov.u...=LELTOJBN5B000 Planning Docs here: http://82.113.161.89/WAM/showCaseFil...r=11/00006/OUT The land is classed as greenbelt and there is currently a greenbelt consultation ongoing which is considering greenbelt land that could be used for new housing - the Ramside site is included. The greenbelt consultation can be found here: http://durhamcc-consult.limehouse.co...cument-1527050 In my opinion some of the proposals are a bit much but some, such as the Ramside proposal, are suitable. I'd encourage people to respond to the planning application and the greenbelt study as a balance of views is important, especially as the typical Durham view seems to be let's regress to the Stoneage. Related links: http://www.ramsidehallhotel.co.uk/ac...l-history.aspx http://www.durhamtimes.co.uk/news/88..._the_North___/ http://www.durhamtimes.co.uk/news/81..._are_unveiled/ Google Maps link to the location Last edited by JetStreak; January 28th, 2011 at 02:23 PM.

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January 27th, 2011, 11:37 AM	#2
denm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,081 Likes (Received): 8	The Ramside has been a successful Hotel for some years now, ---and I suppose to extend it makes sense, ---and personally I think this is okay, ---but not so sure of the Houses they want to build on Green belt land, ---I think there will always be objections to such proposals, ---and it's just getting the balance right.

January 27th, 2011, 08:28 PM	#3
horokeio Ma nishma? Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sunderland Posts: 1,197 Likes (Received): 2	This is excellent news, both the improvements to the hotel and the executive housing whose sales will finance the project. It should bring a boost to the whole area.

January 27th, 2011, 11:21 PM	#4
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,054 Likes (Received): 63	1 - I have amended this Project thread title to align with the standard SSC format. 2 - I have added the TAG . . . Project - Sunderland Area . . . so it will now appear (along with all Sunderland & Durham projects) when 'clicked'. 3 - I have recently sent a "PM" to NE 4 E with a list of a few amendments required for the Development Summary. I will now add this thread to that list (as well as the other new Project Thread, for 'Cooper Rose')

February 16th, 2011, 11:29 AM	#5
denm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,081 Likes (Received): 8	Opposition is growing to this, --- Opposition to homes plan growsSponsored by Lumley Castle Published on Tue Feb 15 12:05:20 GMT 2011 OPPOSITION to multi-million pound plans to expand a hotel are mounting. Last month, Ramside Estates applied to build 34 houses near Ramside Hall Hotel. Company bosses claim the development is essential to help finance the four-star hotel’s £17million expansion, which includes 44 bedrooms, nine extra golf holes, a 700-capacity banqueting suite and leisure facilities. But more than 50 residents have objected to the proposal, claiming it will lead to a loss of green space and more traffic on Wantage Road. Thomas Flower, who has lived on the street for more than 50 years, said: “Durham City is a World Heritage site that we are extremely proud of Read more, http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/l...rows_1_3081329

February 16th, 2011, 08:12 PM	#6
JetStreak Born in Durham Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	I could have written the objections for them myself, there's nothing new there. The World Heritage Site line always makes me laugh. It's like saying we want a World Heritage site but we only want it for ourselves. We want to create a City that is unwelcome to visitors and we don't want to use the World Heritage site for our economic benefit. If you consider the position of the site the greenbelt line is also particularly weak in this instance. Especially since the development is either on the golf course between the existing housing and the Ramside hotel or on the site of a disused farm which was pretty rundown last time I saw it. How this adds to the "urban sprawl" I'm not sure. In fact the development would serve as barrier to any further development as there would be no way to integrate it with the current housing. The development also contains extensive landscaping and tree retention to keep a rural look to the development and provide suitable privacy to the properties. I think the only genuine objection that can be made is with regards to the traffic which is currently busy for a residential street. I do think the plans could go further to alleviate these concerns.

December 6th, 2011, 10:15 AM	#8
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,054 Likes (Received): 63	New golf course will be built at Ramside Hall Hotel - there will be no Public Enquiry by Neil McKay, The Journal, December 6th 2011 A HOTEL boss plans to start building a new golf course for the "Belfry of the North" early next year after learning his ambitious plans will not be delayed by a lengthy public inquiry. The Secretary of State has decided not to call in an application by Ramside Estates to build 21 new homes near Ramside Hall Hotel and another 13 nearby at Hill Top Farm in Carrville, on the outskirts of Durham City. The sale of the land to developers will part-fund plans to turn Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Club into the “Belfry of the North”. Delighted Ramside Estates director John Adamson said yesterday: “We can now press ahead with plans to polish the diamond, to give Durham a first-class resort of which it can be justifiably proud.” The plans include expanding the golf course to create a total of 36 holes, and Mr Adamson said: “I expect work on the golf course to begin early next year and plans for the expansion of the hotel to be well underway by this time next year.” The £18m scheme also includes a spa, a 25-metre swimming pool, conference suite for 1,000 guests and 48 more bedrooms, bringing the total number in the hotel to 130. Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1fkCSQQqO

December 6th, 2011, 10:54 AM	#9
denm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,081 Likes (Received): 8	Good news, ---the golf course will be a excellent facility for the Hotel, ---and could possibly help bring a major golf tournament to the North East in future years.

January 4th, 2012, 12:06 PM	#10
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,054 Likes (Received): 63	Ramside Hall new golf course to rival the best in Europe by Alastair Craig, The Journal, January 4th 2012 Ramside Hall Hotel and Golf Course - Development Site A NORTH East hotel is hoping to attract golfers from all over the world to the region, as work started yesterday on a new 18-hole championship course on the outskirts of Durham. The project at Ramside Hall Hotel is the first stage of a multi-million pound leisure development which will also include 34 new luxury homes, a new conference and banqueting centre and a leisure centre. Ramside Estates says the development will create 104 new jobs, generate an additional £11m of spending in the tourist economy and make the hotel one of the best golf resorts in Europe. Estates director John Adamson said: “The £18m scheme also includes a spa, a 25-metre swimming pool, conference suite for 1,000 guests and 48 more bedrooms, bringing the total number in the hotel to 130." Golf architect Jonathan Gaunt, of Gaunt Golf Design, built the original 27 holes at Ramside Hall, which opened in 1996. To create the new sporting facility, Gaunt will revamp four of the existing Cathedral Course holes, retire five existing holes, and add 14 new holes on the former farm land near Belmont and Pittington. The development also includes 34 executive houses in secluded and picturesque locations bordering the golf course. The hotel expansion will begin late in 2012 with 48 new bedrooms set to be built increasing the hotel’s bed stock. Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1iUDBpVlu

January 25th, 2012, 09:27 PM	#12
JetStreak Born in Durham Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	I've heard work has started on the new golf holes. Although I've not been to confirm it myself, I've no reason to think it isn't correct.

January 29th, 2012, 10:36 AM	#14
JetStreak Born in Durham Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 0	New Ramside course breaks ground 4 January 2012 Ramside Hall, a golf resort in County Durham in the north-east of England, is starting work on a £15m development that includes an eighteen hole golf course, spa, leisure centre and hotel expansion. Source

June 6th, 2012, 10:36 AM	#16
denm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,081 Likes (Received): 8	This from the Sunderland Echo, --- New wing planned for expanding hotel Published on Wednesday 6 June 2012 08:45 A HOTEL could get a new wing as it moves forward with expansion plans. Ramside Hall, in Carrville, Durham, has already been given permission for 56 more bedrooms, redevelopment of its ballroom and a leisure and health spa. The project also included an extension to its golf course, with plans for a housing development on the site as part of a £15million investment in the hotel. Now the scheme is going back before planners to amend the design, scale and layout of the bedrooms and spa, by varying conditions put on the proposals when they were approved in 2005. The application will be discussed by Durham County Council’s central and East Durham planning committee on Tuesday, June 12, with officers saying they recommend the change. They believe it is sustainable in terms of economic, social and environmental terms and should go ahead without delay. Read more http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/b...otel-1-4617277