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Old July 1st, 2011, 04:15 PM   #121
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First off, this is not light monorail (ala Seattle Monorail), this is Heavy Monorail (ala Osaka Monorail or Tokyo Haneda Monorail). In fact, Chongqing Monorail cars (and system) comes from Japan - and its capacity per line is over 36,000 passengers per hour per direction.
So is the advertised capacity per line of 36,000 phd using 4 car trains like in Chongqing or 6 car trains in the diagram or 8 car trains like tokyo monorail?

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Again, it would be nice for a city as big as Chongqing to have a proper, all heavy rail subway, but it is not practical on every route due to the elevation at ground level - which would necessitate extremely deep tunnles/stations to keep things level.
I think a heavy monorail perfect for Chongqing. The only other technology that can handle such steep curves and grades is a rubber tired metro like the Mexico or Paris but since most of the alignment is elevated its much much cheaper to make a monorail. Compare building a viaduct for a rubber tired metro (like building a regular railroad viaduct) to a monorail viaduct (almost as easy as laying down a slab of concrete spanning the support pillars). plus Hitachi's monorails are the highest capacity monorails you can find, in fact the worlds most profitable monorail (Tokyo monorail) and the longest monorail line (Osaka monorail) both use the Hitachi design. IMO the planners at Chongqing made a perfect choice and found a perfect substitute for a metro.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 10:48 PM   #122
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Old July 15th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #123
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It seemed Chongqing was China's most populous city. Is/was this true?
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Old July 16th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #124
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Its China's and the world's largest municipality; 28 million people in an area larger than Taiwan.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #125
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"World's largest municipality" ≠ "world's largest city"
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Old July 16th, 2011, 08:33 PM   #126
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Shanghai is still China's most populous city. Chongqing is China's most populous municipality.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 10:08 PM   #127
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Ah! got it. Cheesh, 14M in the 90s, now nearly 30M must be a typo, no? "in an area larger than Taiwan"? Should that read Taipei?

At any rate, fascinating metro, Chongqing has. I plan on following its development. Its rides appear very appealing




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I find this statement queer coming from somebody who hails from a land where suburbia's de rigueur
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Old July 17th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #128
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Ah! got it. Cheesh, 14M in the 90s, now nearly 30M must be a typo, no?
No, China has a very serious urbanization. Almost all large cities have a similar population growth. Even if you count only the city population, China has 55 cities over 1 million (I suppose there's at least 40 of them that you've never heard about).

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"in an area larger than Taiwan"? Should that read Taipei?
No, Chongqing municipality has an area about 2.5 times larger than the island of Taiwan while population has pretty less difference: Chongqing 28M, Taiwan 23M.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #129
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Sorry for my confusion: I was asking about Taiwan/Taipei (I ought to have put a capital M to "must be a typo, no?").
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Old July 18th, 2011, 08:58 AM   #130
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Can't wait for the two new metro lines set to open this year, Line 1 - heavy subway and Line 3 - new heavy monorail. Line 6 - another new heavy rail subway to open next year.

Exciting times for Chongqing, and these 3 new lines coupled with the existing Line 2 - heavy monorail will sure make a huge dent in the central city traffic/congestion. ...
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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:10 PM   #131
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heavy monorail will sure make a huge dent in the central city traffic/congestion. ...
Imagine...

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I find this statement queer coming from somebody who hails from a land where suburbia's de rigueur
WTF???

Anyway, to stem the ignorance and insolence, here is a map of China. Chongqing "municipality" is red; Taiwan is the island to the right.

The term "municipality" has a different meaning in China than it does in the rest of the world; same goes for the term "light rail" (which generally refers to an elevated heavy-rail line).

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Old July 22nd, 2011, 01:16 AM   #133
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I find this statement queer coming from a bitchin' impotent stud who hails from a land where suburbia's de rigueur
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:27 AM   #134
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I find this statement queer coming from a bitchin' impotent stud who hails from a land where suburbia's de rigueur
Let's not resort to insults. This isn't the skybar, after all.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 06:39 PM   #135
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Some line 1 photos.

It is said that the metal seats and poles have self sensing heating and cooling



































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Old July 22nd, 2011, 08:05 PM   #136
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Funny how none of these photos show a waiting passenger's view of the railbeam ()
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Old July 24th, 2011, 08:52 PM   #137
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well done
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Old July 25th, 2011, 11:05 AM   #138
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were those pics from Linjiangmen station?

Isn't it going to be a transfer station for Line 1 and Line 2 (and eventually Line 6)?
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Old July 28th, 2011, 11:15 PM   #139
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Excellent-looking subway. I like the combination of conventional and monorail metros.
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