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Old November 16th, 2005, 07:46 PM   #361
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I agree, but it can be done. All they have to do is look at Crate/Barrell or North Bridge facing Michigan.
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Old November 16th, 2005, 07:56 PM   #362
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Most important part of LSE, if you ask me. I was afraid they wouldn't get a grocery store within walking distance of all of those towers. I hope more retail is one the way, outside of this retail building. Isn't Target coming here?
Actually, a new Target would be awesome on Michigan, between Randolph and Wacker.
^ No offense, but a Target in that particular location would be outright ridiculous, if you ask me.

I would laugh my ass off and then cry
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Old November 16th, 2005, 07:59 PM   #363
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Isn't Target coming here?
Actually, a new Target would be awesome on Michigan, between Randolph and Wacker.
Am I wrong or would that be impossible? On Michigan Ave between Randolph & Wacker?

I do know they have had talks for Congress & Stetson
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Old November 16th, 2005, 09:00 PM   #364
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I don't mean a new building. I was thinking a developer could buy a few of those old, smaller buildings, and maybe somehow combined the space. Its not like smaller tenants of these buildings are doing well anyway.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 12:55 AM   #365
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How about putting Target in the Marshall Field's buidling. I'd rather have them there than New York's stupid Macy's. Macy's is a dying breed anyways.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 12:56 AM   #366
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^ No offense, but a Target in that particular location would be outright ridiculous, if you ask me.

I would laugh my ass off and then cry

I agree. Target doesn't stray from its facade and architectural style very much and they would have to make MAJOR philosophical and architectural concessions for it to even be presentable for such an area (so much that I don't know if there bottom price approach to construction would warrent). Any place that can't even build farking street level windows shouldn't have commercial license anywhere of any value in the city.
If they wanted to build an industrial/warhouse loft type style maybe it would work but I wouldn't trust them to do it right. Treasure Island is about as big box retail as it should get for such a prominet location.
Has Target even ever built on a location where there was not a major street level parking lot to go along with it?
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Old November 17th, 2005, 12:58 AM   #367
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*Harrod's

They know what to do with the place.

Also, looks like they have some windows up on 340OTP now.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 02:13 AM   #368
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I got these from www.340owners.com (I believe SpyGuy mentioned this on SP?)




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Old November 17th, 2005, 02:40 AM   #369
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Has Target even ever built on a location where there was not a major street level parking lot to go along with it?
This one in LA (West Hollywood, to be exact) is a retail complex with Target and Best Buy as anchor tenants, and several other tenants (restaurants, Cingular stores, BevMo, etc. fronting two major streets and a courtyard.





There are also two other Target stores in the LA area (both in the Valley, of all places) that vary from Targets architectural "style" AND have no surface parking (one is below grade and the other is on top of the store. So Target can pull off an urban design for their stores.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 02:51 AM   #370
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Treasure Island is a fine store with a gourmet quality and certainly belongs on the site far more than Jewel or Dominick's. However, I would have rather seen another choice: Sunset Foods. I don't know how many of you are familiar with it, but sunset does a helluva business with a helluva reputation on the North Shore (Nbk, HP, LF, Lib'vil). It is a full service market with top quality, an unbelievable deli, service that can't be beat and a marvelous variety of foods. On the North Shore, it is almost legandary....and a lot of North Shore folks are the ones who have moved downtown to all those new condos.

Sunset could have done even better with the site than TI and would have been more of an asset for the development, as well.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 03:03 AM   #371
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On the North Shore, it is almost legandary....
well, having grown up on the north shore and never hearing of this sunset foods place, you're claim that it is "almost legendary" seems a bit dubious to me. but from what you've said, i'm sure its a fine place.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 04:03 AM   #372
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^ That LA Target looks GREAT. We should keep in mind that Target's flagship store below their headquarters in downtown Minneapolis is extremely urban. I had forgotten about this until I saw the pictures of the LA Target. I am hopeful that a Target will be at the base of a tower, or some such thing, not its own building. But whatever it is, given Target's familiarity with urban locations, and the city's tougher standards these days, I'm not too worried.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 04:14 AM   #373
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Target is supposed to be in the 80 story Gang tower, isn't it?
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Old November 17th, 2005, 05:42 AM   #374
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^No. Target, assuming it would join, will be at the retail center, north of 340TP along with Treasure Island.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 06:04 AM   #375
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If you want to really know where Target should go just take a look at the ailing Sears flagship on State. I can't think of a better location for the big T
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Old November 17th, 2005, 06:22 PM   #376
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Was the Target in West Hollywood where they filmed "40 year old virgin?" Looks familiar.

Seattle's Northgate Target:



Target in LSE will only work if access is only given by Columbus Middle and Lower Drive. It would be a disaster if it opened onto the park area.

Sears downtown is my best guess as a great place for Target.






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Old November 17th, 2005, 11:32 PM   #377
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^ Notice that there are absolutely no pedestrians here

You can put make-up on her, but she's still ugly
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Old November 17th, 2005, 11:37 PM   #378
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You're right, TUP! If I guess correctly, it looks like 7pm-ish on summertime. Is that "density" the few LA forumers openly bragged about?

Anyway, I don't like the design. It looks suburban.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 02:24 AM   #379
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No one's bragging about LA density here. I merely posted these pics to illustrate that Target can design a store without a giant surface parking lot, which was a claim earlier in this thread. Many people were concerned that Target would have to make - and I quote - "MAJOR philosophical and architectural concessions" to have an urban store. I was merely posting to address those concerns.

I'll agree with you, the design itself is suburban in nature with all of the stucco and curves, but that's a product of the developer, and of LA still not being comfortable getting entirely out of it's suburban skin just yet.

As for no pedestrians around, I don't know why it is that way in those pics, but I've been to this complex about 10 times, and there's always significant foot traffic on both La Brea (the street shown) and Santa Monica. And that even with the surrounding areas being VERY unpedestrian (the five blocks directly west of this complex host the blank wall of the old Warner Bros. Hollywood backlot).

But this isn't a thread about a Target in LA, so this discussion is someone moot here.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:22 AM   #380
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That Target is located close to walkable commercial streets of LA, believe me. Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood is LA's Boystown, and very vibrant.
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