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Thats correct Arun .. Not sure what knowledge these SHEIKS are going to import to Kerala.But it is true that shopping malls also can create some job opportunities .. like few sales girls and sweepers(no offence meant)
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In 2004, Kochi was no where at IT Map. Infopark was just one or 2 bldgs. I don't support that move anyway, as competition is always required. But in 2011, IT map changed completely. Its like still trying to tie an Aranjanam worn by a one year old Baby to a 24 year old man. Kochi's or Kerala's IT map changed completely in these 7 years. Yes, you can take it as Left credit and I don't hesistate to say, Left has done enough to create IT parks under Govt sponsorship. But they did at expense of private sector. We live in a society, which requires both private and government support. But Left only supported latter, thereby keeping all other private SEZs in freezer. Coming back to Smart city, 7 years passed from original concept. That also mean, a business entity should move on from 2004 concept. It has to change. By the way, it doesn't mean IT is not getting any prominence in Smart City. Cochin Special Economic Zone was started to encourage non-IT export oriented industries. But today it houses more IT industries than Infopark. So naturally IT will have its share in Smart city. Quote:
So the question here is, who came first- Hen or Chicken. Do you want to say HDIL brought land in Market prices? Then why did it went to HC, due to allegations of corruption of low rates for HMT selling its land? I wish to ask a question, do you want a baby alive or keep normal delivery procedures intact at cost of baby's life? In modern era, we all look for fast delivery of a healthy baby, even thro' cesarean, rather get a dead baby thro' painful normal delivery. Left was more interested in keeping PAPER AGREEMENTS intact, than ensuring the project kicks off and attract more private investors. I believe, that was the very reason more than 5 major SEZ projects in Kochi went into deep freezer. Perhaps revival of Smart City, may bring out other projects... Quote:
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Suggesting that you must make a thesis and get a doctorate fast... Its an interesting fact, you have discovered.......![]()
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Smart City becoming multi-service industrial project is good for Kochi but truly bad for Kerala IT. What happen to the tall claims that smart city it is the "avasana kachithurumbu" of Kerala IT development? Now they might ask when did they said smart city is an IT project. True but all the media reports and claims of our politicians was that it is an IT project.
Now what is this project for? What kind of industries are they going to promote? Do we have any transparency in this? This is not a completely private project. Land is acquired by the government and it has shares in the company. They are accountable to the tax payers. Most probably head quarters all the Kerala banks and regional offices of other banks will shift to smart city. Also the likes of Muthoott and Manappuram groups can enjoy SEZ benefits. Many of the corporate and regional offices you see in Ernakulam MG road might move to smart city. This is nothing sort of technopark or infopark. May be for namesake IBM, microsoft etc can open their regional offices in smart city. And there will be 8 columns news in manorama. Microsoftum IBMum smart cityllll!
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But IT alone or exclusive IT zone may not be relevant in today's context. Perhaps it may move to Technocity model- having IT, BT, NT, Life Sciences coupled with Finance, Media, Communications, Creative sciences, etc here. Its surely positive for Kerala as whole, because it generates lot of positive buzz outside. HITECH city has several non-IT, technology based industries, I believe. It regularly participate in several IT festivals across world and earn a positive name for Hyderabad and AP. So the new avatar is prefect. Quote:
Even within six months, land value rose sharply. In 2010, a flat was selling at 2400 Rs Sqft, whereas today DLF announce pre-starting price at 3600 Rs, shows the land value again rises, making people around it to gain better and govt to get more higher taxes. Quote:
If TECOM can attract these to Dubai, why not in Kochi? Why not Havard Medical sciences or Oxford?
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For those who are fighting for TECOM here
I read all of your post about smartcity , still i cannot understand why someone are still not realizing the facts. 1) To develop this kind of a SEZ township , We dont need an agency like Dubai Internet City, even DLF, GMR or any of the indian real estate company can do. because there is no risk involved. 2) India is not UAE and Kochi is not Dubai. Future of India is brighter than UAE. Even the growth rate is higher than Dubai. We dont need such kind of services SEZ to boost the economy. 3)Yes it is Taxpayers money. Else ask them buy the land in market rates. And also SEZ is meant for state and central tax benefits, registration wavier etc. Hope you all saw this link http://www.mathrubhumi.com/online/ma...1-06-24/kerala
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Green signal to build Smart City office
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SmartCity phase I to be ready by Oct. 2012 Quote:
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Kerala SmartCity first phase by Oct. ’12
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Mr. Mohammed..Being a resident of Dubai, you must be knowing the currrent status of Dubai internet city. it is a failure.Howmany IT companies or Deve centers are there in DIC. Hardly any. What is the total employment in DIC? its less than 5000 in 12 years.. i still remember 13 years back, when the DIC started, the press media hype about DIC. Dubai goanna be the next silicon valley etc... What is the current status. They could not make it a success in Dubai and how will it be a success in Kerala?
In India majority of the Indian IT companies started their own campuses .. Then who will come to Smart City. MS or IBM or Oracle ??? Yet be seen. Now its clear .. going to be a Real estate business . not IT...wait & see.. All the bests..... ![]() ![]() Quote:
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The normal rate for premium apartments from reputed builders with good common facilities, in Kakkanad is now selling @ Rs.2400-2500 per sqft . And in surrounding area it is Rs.1900 -Rs.2100 only.
DLF , it will be different ,it really have lot of common space and amenities, so you have to pay more. And still some flats are available at their u/c project at Kakkanad, in a decent rate. I think this will be a nice piece of information to NRIs, those who are still looking for a flat at kakkanad area. Quote:
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Technocity was earlier planned in such a way to accomodate BT and Lifescience's players into it. But now as per the information we have, Technocity will be an exclusive IT oriented township. GoK along with KSIDC is acquiring 260 acres of land near by Technocity for establishing Lifesciences park which will concentrate on BT and Life science's industry. In the form of Infosys, TCS, HCL , UST campuses almost 4,500 crores is coming to Trivandrum. TCS alone is investing more than 2,500 crore for their two campuses in Technocity and Technopark. Infopark is also expanding and attracting investment. My doubt is If a gov agency with marketing constraints can attract this much of IT investment and global players like Oracle, then Why Tecom is not confident of having an IT project? ![]() Another most important thing is that, now they can use 50 % of land or area as non-processing(apartments, schools, sport facilities, malls etc). That means only 50% will be available as processing zones. Being a multi-service SEZ they can lease out this processing area to non-IT players also(banking, biotechnology, consultancy etc). So even 50% will not be available for IT industry. Any way best wishes for their new strategy. Last edited by Rajesh SM; June 24th, 2011 at 08:16 PM. |
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wait...can any1 xplain to me in simple terms what 70% of the buildings and 50% of the land area to be used for IT means?
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But the difference is, we require one international player or a brand to start their mega venture in Kerala and prove to other investors that we are investor friendly. Several leading Indian developers came to Kochi, only after Smart City was announced, say Unitech, Pasarvnath or HDIL. If Smart City was successful, it will be proved as best example for people outside to consider Kerala. Just like in 1990 when Taj group along with Kerala Govt start a JV for Taj Residency in Kochi and Kumarakom, initiate confidence among other major Hospitality brands to come into Kerala and start their venture. In Kerala, till now, we had only Govt as developers, be it Technopark or Infopark, which could produce only less than 0.1% of what India does. More private players in development area, will bring in more companies and improves our position. I believe TECOM is not a superb player. But someone is better than nothing. Just like Indoesia's Salim group's investment in Bengal improved Bengal's image, despite of fact that the group is not any mega international giant, TECOM will surely improve Kerala's image outside. And Godman, priorities of Dubai and Kerala are different. In terms of cost, quality HR and many other critiea, Dubai is no where near to India. But investors invest in Dubai primarily for 1. Raising Finance, as Dubai is almost a mini-offshore finance hub and its pretty easy to shift capital raised in Dubai to other parts of world 2. Dubai is the only way to penetrate into Middle East-Africa region and most of companies based in Dubai, considers it as key to enter MENA region and Arabic market. 3. For Dubai, more than employment, the government values multiplier effects. We never hear any project in terms of employment in Dubai, rather in terms of its growth or market share. For example do you know how many employed in Siemens or Nokia based in Dubai? Rather we all know how many projects it undertake or how many multiplier projects rose because of Nokia or Siemens. Even Dubai knows that. Thats why it is establishing projects outside Dubai and using its capital to develop, so it returns back to Dubai in one way or other. For Kerala, we look forward for a reputed brand name to start a project and help us to get rid of the bad image accumulated on us for past 30 years. Do you think Oracle or IBM will simply build own campus and operate in Kerala on day one itself? How can they be sure about Kerala and no issues will happen? They will go for leasing office spaces from quality operators and wait untill they are pretty sure about its operations And TECOM knows that more better than our politicians.... Thats why it understood it can't be a mere IT developer when slowly IT companies are establishing their campus. Thats why it moved to General SEZ.
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Perhaps it also serves a reason why a stand alone IT project won't work. In 2005, when it was planned there was no much brands in Kerala IT market. Kochi was no where in IT Map, Trivandrum too was a below average player comparative to other states. But 7 years passed on. Today mega projects happening in Trivandrum, parks are coming in Kochi and even interest is shown in relative new places like Kozhikode etc. Naturally the competitive edge which SmartCity had in 2004 is lost completely. See, despite of these projects coming up, we still are minuscule in IT market, because other states have atleast 50 time more projects than us. If Trivandrum was in TN or Karnataka, I am sure, it would had atleast 20 or 30 IT parks outside Technopark and atleast 3 or 4 TECHNOCITY kind of projects. But it didn't happen, because even India's first IT place suffered due to poor Investor friendly image. Smart City is NOT the standalone ONE SINGLE MEGA PROJECT which Kochi or Kerala looks into. That was more or less Media exaggeration (just like media said Titanic was unsinkable). One single Smart City, when announced in 2006, 4 major IT/ITES SEZ also came up within its vicinity (Unitech, Pasarvanth, Cybercity, L&T). Did any one took off? Image if all took off, where would be Kerala today.......... Today, after Technocity, Infopark went ahead lot, we still ask Smart City to go in original plan... Its like asking the hare who slept, to run and touch finishing point, when tortoise already near an inch to touch it. It doesn't mean we should we kill the hare for sake of tortoise. Let hare take a different path and achieve different victory. Quote:
The new policy is good, because what you mentioned as non-processing sectors, are actually more processing. Imagine the level of impact if Havard Medical school opens a branch in Smart City as a non-processing institute..... If some international schools open, will it give quality education and quality faulty to Kochi? If companies like Biotech or Swiss Re or ING looks into Kerala, won't it be equal to IBM or Microsoft.... Quote:
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So it shows that there is enough risk to come to Kerala and if ever come to Kerala, the risk to start business........ In 2006, we were NUMBER 2 in investment potential. In 2010, we are Number 16, just above West Bengal for investment potentiality. It speaks volumes of risk to start a business.. Quote:
Is that justifies that Taxpayers got more profits, even for a paper project......
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G-TECH welcome Smartcity
The Group of Technology Companies (GTech), the industry body of the software companies of Kerala, has welcomed the agreement reached between the government of Kerala and representatives of TECOM to fast track the implementation of the SmartCity project Kochi.
A pressnote issued by Gtech said the agreement would help not only to enhance the viability of the SmartCity project but also promote the general services sector. “It is equally encouraging to note that clear-cut milestones – opening of the SmartCity office by August 31, concept master plan within a month thereafter, and commencement of work by October 31 – have been spelt out. These are welcome signals.” It said the decision of the government of Kerala to convert SmartCity into an industrial township under the Special Economic Zone of the government of India would provide an enabling ecosystem for the growth of IT and general services activities in the State. GTech complimented the State government for taking steps to implement the project. It expressed confidence that this would send out a positive signal to potential investors. Suitable industry “Information Technology is one of the most suitable industries for a State like Kerala. It offers huge employment opportunities with attractive remuneration. If encouraged to grow, it has the potential to dramatically transform the socio- economic landscape of Kerala. The SmartCity project would be a significant step in this direction,” said V.K. Mathews, chairman of GTech and executive chairman of IBS Group. Township “The conversion of SmartCity into a multi-service SEZ using the extra four acres from KINFRA should be looked upon by TECOM as an opportunity to build a self-sustained township in the region. This township should not only concentrate on apartments but should also cover the civic and social infrastructural aspects like education, waste management, sewage treatment and drinking water for the region,” said Anoop P. Ambika, secretary, GTech. http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/...cle2131944.ece
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![]() Dr. Baju George, a veteran management professional, has taken charge as the Managing Director of SmartCity Kochi project being promoted by the Dubai based Tecom Investments. Dr. Baju, who was holding the position of Project Director- Real Estate at Dubai International Financial Centre Authority, was earlier in charge of SmartCity Kochi when the project was floated, in his capacity as the Director of Projects at Tecom Investments. Talking to Kerala IT News, Dr. Baju said, “My priority is to present the concept master plan by September. I have to ensure that the deadlines set in our meeting with the Chief Minister are met”. He will be based in Kochi. Baju, who did his Graduation, Law and MBA from Kerala University, got his Doctorate from M G University and ML from Madras University. Starting his career as an Advocate at the District Court in Kollam, Dr. Baju has been in Dubai since 1996. Over the years, he has developed expertise in property management, project management and legal management. Meanwhile, the Board of Directors of SmartCity Kochi Infrastructure has been reconstituted with the Minister for Industries & IT, Shri P K Kunhalikutty, as the new Chairman. T Balakrishnan IAS, Addl. Chief Secretary, Department of Industries, Government of Kerala and Ismail Naqi, MD, Tecom Business Park Operations joins the Board as new members with Kerala Chief Minister Shri Oommen Chandy as Patron. A meeting of the Director Board was held at the Secretariat in Trivandrum yesterday and the Board has approved the new appointments. http://keralaitnews.com/other-it-new...tcity-kochi-md
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