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Old February 4th, 2011, 06:56 AM   #1
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Fire destroys a skyscraper in Shenyang, China

Luckily, less tragic than what happened in Shanghai a few months back

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FEBRUARY 3, 2011, 8:08 P.M. ET

Fireworks Spark High-Rise Blaze in China

By JASON DEAN

BEIJING—Fireworks ignited a blaze that gutted much of a hotel tower in the northeastern Chinese city of Shenyang, the second time in two years that the country's Lunar New Year tradition of pyrotechnics has claimed a major building.

City officials said there were no casualties in the fire, which broke out shortly after midnight Thursday in Tower B, an apartment building in the three-building Dynasty Wanxin complex in Shenyang. The fire quickly spread to Tower A, a 219-meter (719 feet) tall building that houses a five-star hotel, the state-run Xinhua news agency reported.

The Shenyang government said in a statement that the fire was triggered by fireworks that ignited material on the exteriors of the buildings. The statement said the fire was extinguished around 9 a.m. Xinhua said further investigation of the incident was underway.

Shenyang police and city news office officials couldn't be reached for comment. Staff at the Royal Wanxin hotel confirmed that there were no injuries from the fire, but declined to elaborate.

The incident comes almost exactly two years after an illegal fireworks display engulfed a tower in the newly built complex of state broadcaster China Central Television in Beijing. The Feb. 9, 2009 blaze destroyed much of the Television Cultural Center building, which was to house a luxury Mandarin Oriental hotel and which sits just next to CCTV's new headquarters, one of the capital's most recognizable buildings.

One firefighter died and eight others were injured in the CCTV blaze, which became a huge scandal for the government's main propaganda outlet. A government investigation into the incident, disclosed by Xinhua in February of last year, found 71 people responsible, including senior officials at the broadcaster. It said that substandard insulation materials in the nearly completed building had also contributed to the fire.

Fireworks have long played a central role in celebrations of the Lunar New Year, which started Thursday. Average citizens in most Chinese cities are allowed to purchase a wide array of sometimes powerful pyrotechnics, which fill the skies of major cities with color and noise on New Year's Eve. Officials in Beijing have somewhat tightened restrictions on fireworks use since the CCTV blaze, but Wednesday night's display in the capital was intense. State media reported there were no major fires in Beijing.

Thursday's fire in Shenyang also comes less than three months after one in Shanghai that killed at least 58 people and injured scores more in a 28-floor residential tower. That blaze, which officials blamed on unlicensed welders' attaching insulation material to meet government energy-efficiency targets, prompted angry public protests.

Major fires had been relatively rare in China compared with some other developing countries, even as it engaged in one of the world's biggest urban construction binges. But the recent incidents have exposed what appear to be serious inadequacies in fire-safety practices.

In the Shanghai fire, firefighters on the ground were initially unable to direct water to the flames in the upper half of the building—though it wasn't especially tall by the standards of China's wealthiest city. Similarly, in Thursday's blaze, water guns mounted on fire engines could jet water only 50 meters high—less than a fourth the height of Tower A—Xinhua said.

According to the Xinhua report, top local officials including Shenyang Mayor Chen Haibo arrived at the site soon after the fire started. It said personnel from the nearby Sheraton Shenyang Lido Hotel were evacuated, but nearby residents were able to stay home. The fire didn't hit a third building in the Dynasty Wanxin complex, Tower C.
—Kersten Zhang in Beijing contributed to this article.

Write to Jason Dean at [email protected]
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Old February 4th, 2011, 08:38 AM   #2
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This is damnable, another high-rise fire in the People's Republic of China. Luckily, the building's structural frame is made of reinforced concrete, and it should luckily be saved. If not, we're gonna have another One Meridian Plaza on our hands.
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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:11 AM   #3
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So is this building the one with golden borders at the top of the building? the one with a golden spire or something like that? Judging by the shape of the building, it is and its a real shame since that building was one of my favourites in Shengyang.

Please designate an open area for the residents to play with fireworks!!!

What about all the squares they have over there? I don't mind if they build a few more if they only allow fireworks to be set off in that area. It will be a lot easier to manage and supervise
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Old February 4th, 2011, 01:27 PM   #4
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fireworks are a major problem in China, every New Year too when 1.3 billion set them off. Basically the govt even banned them a few years back, and of course any transportation of the stuff - you can imagine what happens when a bag full of them goes off on public transport. I remember travelling in China and seeing gory posters warning of the aftermath. That's 2 highrises now that have gone up in smoke from fireworks in as many years.
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Old February 4th, 2011, 06:44 PM   #5
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fireworks are a major problem in China, every New Year too when 1.3 billion set them off. Basically the govt even banned them a few years back, and of course any transportation of the stuff - you can imagine what happens when a bag full of them goes off on public transport. I remember travelling in China and seeing gory posters warning of the aftermath. That's 2 highrises now that have gone up in smoke from fireworks in as many years.
it'd be pretty much impossible to ban fireworks in china it would be like banning cheeseburgers in america

what they need is to be able to pump water at higher pressure which was why they couldnt put this out

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Old February 4th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #6
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Eirgh ... fireworks again ...
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how was before the fire?
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Old February 5th, 2011, 05:18 AM   #8
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Royal Wan Xin International Tower. Spire height finally announced: 267m. 43 floors.
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A lot of Americans are familiar with the 1977 movie "Towering Inferno" in which an electrical spark in a storage room starts a fire that destroys the new tallest building in the world (549m says Wikipedia) in San Francisco.
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Old February 5th, 2011, 07:30 AM   #10
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A lot of Americans are familiar with the 1977 movie "Towering Inferno" in which an electrical spark in a storage room starts a fire that destroys the new tallest building in the world (549m says Wikipedia) in San Francisco.
The pictures immediately made me think of that movie. It is a good. One of my favorites when I was a kid- actually if I think about it, it probably made me interested in skyscrapers in the first place.

BTW- 1974, not '77. Its a classic- you've got Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, Richard Chamberlain, Fred Astire, O.J. Simpson, Faye Dunaway- who's who of Hollywood.

Maybe its time to get a remake done. The movie was inspired by completion of the first generation of supertalls of the 1970s- WTC in NYC and Sears Tower, AON & JHC in Chicago. With the current boom in supertalls the time is right again.
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What are they using for the exterior that keeps catching on fire when a stray bottle rocket hits it? I guess old fashioned concrete, painted metal, or glass which does not burn isn't good enough for today's architects who must use shiny paint and or apparently flammable metals?

When the Beijing Hotel caught on fire it was like a giant sparkler as the outsides burned.

Now that this is the second time this has happened, would it be a good idea to stop using whatever it is?
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China should ban fireworks
yea... no.
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