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Old February 15th, 2011, 06:00 AM   #101
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The fact that they already have the rolling stocks dimension details and technical drawing down to mm probably means that somehow they are working with an existing reference model to come out with those figures. Hard to ignore the fact that that somebody's rolling stocks model could end up being the favourite in the coming bid.

Anyway, that's just me, the last time where rolling stocks and open tenders were spoken together in the same breath, we got the KTMB Komuter EMUs and CSR. But people would have probably forgotten about that also.
They probably will ask the winning bidder to design and build the rolling stock according to their specifications, essentially custom made like acela in the states.Things are moving fast, so we should hear about tenders soon.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 06:59 AM   #102
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first design is ok,other design is so damn boring,...
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i wish something more like metro dubai,foster tube station

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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:35 AM   #103
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I think it is better to integrate this line with KL Station than KL Sentral.
KL station only have KTM Komuter, not KJ Line...
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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:48 AM   #104
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There's no proper station integration between MRT line with other two LRT lines, within the city centre area. Pasar Seni stn doesnt look very near enuff with Pasar Seni Stn KJ Line. I google earth, the marked area is somewhere at backside of Petaling Street...
Only one stn properly crossing and integrate, Stn Maluri, tu pun out of city centre. Kurang puas hati dgn MRT route sbb tak penetrate Golden Triangle area, only passing thru at the egde ( paviliion stn).

The 100 floors Menara Warisan Merdeka, an attempt from Najib to leave a legacy to be remembered and associated with his time. Tun Mahathir leave so many legacy, e.g. KLCC, LRT, KLIA, Sepang Circuit, Putrajaya, etc. Najib seems want something like Tun Mahathir's Twin Tower, with the Rail Transit stn down below it. There you go, the Menara Warisan Medeka with MRT Stn Merdeka.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:54 AM   #105
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pasar seni station is closed by

havent been to that area for sometimes,it would be a bit of convenience to extended the commuter pedestrian bridge across the river to pasar seni station

and a tunnel link to masjid jamek is nice too


anyway,anyone wanna start a 1malaysia for rapidkl takeover of commuter facebook fanpage?
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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:55 AM   #106
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http://kvmrt.com.my/w/?page_id=61

guys, let give our opinions, comments, ideas, and inputs to the kvmrt, at the link above.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 10:10 AM   #107
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wowww,it seems they will use ICE velaro Germany high speed train fr Siemens, definitely it will be 400km/hr fr Sg Buloh to Kajang

anyway,i wish the station more look like this..
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Old February 15th, 2011, 11:30 AM   #108
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pasar seni station is closed by

havent been to that area for sometimes,it would be a bit of convenience to extended the commuter pedestrian bridge across the river to pasar seni station

and a tunnel link to masjid jamek is nice too


anyway,anyone wanna start a 1malaysia for rapidkl takeover of commuter facebook fanpage?
Isn't the long term plan is (was?) to have the 1Tiket initiative so that you only need 1 ticket for the whole rail services (Komuter included). Isn't that what the current KTM Komuter AFC overhaul is all about (the one with the messy business involving the SPRM).

If so couldn't they just build a station straddling the distance between pasar seni and the KL station and you'd have a triple-lines interchange. That would definitely bring life back to the old station.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 11:36 AM   #109
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It was hinted that the Pavilion/BB East station will have stacked underground platforms. Is this because of space constraint or is there plan to have a X-platforms interchange with future MRT lines ?



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Old February 15th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #110
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Of the 8 underground stations planned for the Sg Buloh-Kajang MRT line, 3 of those are planned to be built with stacked side platforms.

- Bukit Bintang West
- Bukit Bintang East
- Pasar Rakyat

Pasar Rakyat is significant as it is near to the future KLIFD site.

I wonder if this rumour on the circle line (The Star) is related to this topic or not, but it seems coincidental.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...2&sec=business
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #111
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The pictures Bukhrin posted don't look like there are any provisions for cross-platform transfers. The diaphragm walls are sufficient for one line's platform looking at the diagrams.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:03 PM   #112
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The pictures Bukhrin posted don't look like there are any provisions for cross-platform transfers. The diaphragm walls are sufficient for one line's platform looking at the diagrams.
Dang! You're right ! And those escalators shouldn't be so close to those walls either.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:06 PM   #113
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Dang! You're right ! And those escalators shouldn't be so close to those walls either.
Sorry dude, we've had lots of experience already in Singapore in detecting these things. But it didn't state which station this was right? It seems likely that the Pasar Rakyat station might have the possibility of cross-platform though.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:14 PM   #114
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yeah, and those platform floor plans showed only 3 sets of stairs/escalators, don't think that they have provisions for future 6-car trains platform lengths. If like this the Komuter will have the longest train, followed by Ampang line and this MRT. :P
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #115
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This is my suggestion on the route between Merdeka and Pasar Rakyat. The dark blue dotted line is my suggested route (Pardon the blur wordings, that’s the best my image editing software could do). After Merdeka it should go towards Jalan Raja Chulan, with a station around the Jln Raja Chulan/Jln P. Ramlee junction.
Reasons:
1. This area is one part of the densest KL CBD area with high concentration of high-rise office towers. It’s underserved with just the Monorail Raja Chulan station.
2. Just a slight modification of the proposed alignment can reach this high catchment area.

The line then go towards Bukit Bintang. They should not have the 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations, instead should have a station right under the Jln Bukit Bintang/Jln Sultan Ismail junction and integrate with Monorail.
Reasons:
1) INTEGRATE WITH MONORAIL, IMPORTANT!!
2) This is the heart of Bukit Bintang, centrally located within all the malls and hotels, this is where you have the highest concentration of people. The 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations are located in the quieter parts of Jln Bukit Bintang.
3) Easily walk to areas covered by the proposed 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #116
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yeah, and those platform floor plans showed only 3 sets of stairs/escalators, don't think that they have provisions for future 6-car trains platform lengths. If like this the Komuter will have the longest train, followed by Ampang line and this MRT. :P
A bit hard to say as they haven't stated the platform lengths. But even so at 89m (I think this is the length of the trains right), its already longer than our Circle Line trains at 70.1m each.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 01:16 PM   #117
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By looking at your suggestion it somehow look great and it is important to integrate the mrt with the monorail(bukit bintang station).. do you realize about the proposal about building an underground mall between bb east and bb west station, maybe the can change it to from bb(pavilion) to bb(monorail).. but still the integration will be hard since the station is quite far.. or maybe there is 1 BB station(monorail+MRT which is integrated) and an underground mall linking BB station to pavilion.. but later the crowd on ground level will reduce/less livelier and lot10/Fahrenheit 88 wont be too happy. and it would rather odd to have underground mall connecting another mall to metro station compare to have it in between 2 metro station.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 01:18 PM   #118
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SPAD proposal
Merdeka - Bukit Bintang West - Bukit Bintang East - Pasar Rakyat (KLIFD)

Your proposal:
Merdeka - Raja Chulan - Bukit Bintang (Monorail) - Pasar Rakyat (KLIFD)

Sounds good.

However, the guys told me they are insisting on 2 stations for Bukit Bintang. This is due to traffic, tourists and future plans (perhaps the KL Underground Project). And since many parts of BB will be undergoing redevelopment.

As most Damansara ppl travelling and jamming up SPRINT to go to KL to work and NOT TO GO SHOPPING (most Damansara ppl prefer 1U and MidV), then there is actually NO purpose of serving Damansara area, unless you're talking about connectivity within Damansara itself.

So where are your WORK locations? I know alot of ppl working on Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan Sultan Ismail area. But they say they want to see Merdeka area as the FUTURE KLCC. Well.............
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A bit hard to say as they haven't stated the platform lengths. But even so at 89m (I think this is the length of the trains right), its already longer than our Circle Line trains at 70.1m each.
He he, I was kinda hoping that it'll be more like the EWL and NSL instead of the CCL. No harm in dreaming though.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #120
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This is my suggestion on the route between Merdeka and Pasar Rakyat. The dark blue dotted line is my suggested route (Pardon the blur wordings, that’s the best my image editing software could do). After Merdeka it should go towards Jalan Raja Chulan, with a station around the Jln Raja Chulan/Jln P. Ramlee junction.
Reasons:
1. This area is one part of the densest KL CBD area with high concentration of high-rise office towers. It’s underserved with just the Monorail Raja Chulan station.
2. Just a slight modification of the proposed alignment can reach this high catchment area.

The line then go towards Bukit Bintang. They should not have the 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations, instead should have a station right under the Jln Bukit Bintang/Jln Sultan Ismail junction and integrate with Monorail.
Reasons:
1) INTEGRATE WITH MONORAIL, IMPORTANT!!
2) This is the heart of Bukit Bintang, centrally located within all the malls and hotels, this is where you have the highest concentration of people. The 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations are located in the quieter parts of Jln Bukit Bintang.
3) Easily walk to areas covered by the proposed 2 Bukit Bintang Timur/Barat stations.
Agree with you 100%... let tell this opinion to KVMRT...
re-route to high concentration area of high rise buildings, otherwise the MRT objective to reduce cars on the road hard to achieve.
Peoples who works in Golden Triangles still go to work drive own cars.

From my observation, if we see who take the monorail, mostly they are girls/women or the non-exec staff, or young exec.

Senior Executive, in my opinion, still prefer to drive, rather than berhimpit2 dan berebut2 naik Monorail (yg kecik dan kdg2 tak efisyen). My point is, to make all levels of workers to opt for public transport, it have to be MRT like in developed countries and most important thing is have station at high concentration of high rise buildings.

It just a waste if this MRT line if enter the city centre just to pass thru malls.
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