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TWK90 · January 4th, 2012, 11:12 AM

PBD station should be the interchange station to future circle line, I guess.

tunomura · January 4th, 2012, 12:20 PM

Warning! this is double thread... If you want to, rename it either circle line (MRT 2) or Selayang-Pandan line (MRT 3)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

Has anyone seen the PBD station video? They've indicated that a future line will come in there underground. Provisions are being made for a common concourse and easy transfer. I'm guessing this will be the circle line.

Yup, it is circle line, 1st phase (2015~2020) starting from Sentul Timur through Matrade, Mont Kiara, PBD, KL Eco City until Chan Sow Lin junction station..Ampang Line from Chan Sow Lin station to Ampang will be convert as a MRT line. I think from Mont Kiara to Chan Sow Lin will be underground section..

After that, for 2nd phase (2020 onward), they will close the loop from Ampang to Sentul Timur...currently they still studying possible site for Circle Line MRT depot.

mrtfreak · January 4th, 2012, 12:47 PM

Firstly, apologies. Didn't know this was a new thread, thought it was a response in the existing thread. That said, shall focus more on MRT2 from here on.

Isn't that why they're building a depot at Putra Heights now? Then the "Ampang line" could operate out of that while the Ampang depot could be used for MRT2. That also means that MRT2 would take over Maluri station, effectively meaning that the current "Ampang line", from here on referred to as Sri Petaling line, will not have a direct transfer to the MRT1 line.

mrtfreak · January 4th, 2012, 01:41 PM

Some screen caps of the station videos featuring the future lines.

Pasar Rakyat

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...asarRakyat.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sarRakyat2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sarRakyat3.jpg

PBD

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../Rail/PBD1.jpg

TWK90 · January 4th, 2012, 02:28 PM

Lets see...

Orange line passing Bangsar, then heading to........probably Mont Kiara or Jalan Duta area?

It seems to me that this should be MRT Circle line

bukhrin · January 4th, 2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

Apologies, didn't know that that guy opened up a new thread entirely. Anyway, has anyone seen the PBD station video? Would suggest taking a look at it, as they mentioned a future underground line there with provisions for a common concourse. This should be the circle line, no?

List of videos for your convenience

KVMRT Route - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9M5J...eature=related

Sungai Buloh station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2feW...eature=related

Kota Damansara station - http://youtu.be/7bT3xZA5aW0

The Curve station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16sX1...eature=related

Pusat Bandar Damansara (PBD) station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMoEH...eature=related
Future connection to the "orange line".

Semantan station - http://youtu.be/1Dm6KTIrX-Y

KL Sentral station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhBBF...eature=related

Pasar Seni station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8p9...eature=related

Pasar Rakyat station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXdbG...eature=related
Also has provision for future lines, in fact, cross-platform with the "green line".

Maluri station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1e_m...eature=related

Leisure Mall station - http://youtu.be/Cmyts54bBS0

Kajang station - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=721W0...eature=related

SPAD have only identified the general alignment of the 1st phase of the Circle Line. Starting from Ampang going westward with the interchange at Maluri with MRT 1, KTM Komuter at MidValley, MRT 1 at PBD, and again Komuter at Sentul and ending at Sentul Timur with SP Line.

Just a little recap

First Phase: (mostly underground)
29 km/22 stations

Second Phase:
12 km/8 stations

mrtfreak · January 4th, 2012, 04:42 PM

How many stations and km is the current Ampang branch of the "Ampang line"? Perhaps a good estimate of the remainder of phase 1 can be obtained from there afterwards.

greater KL · January 4th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Wah.....

Greater KL....

greater KL · January 4th, 2012, 04:54 PM

Good to see all the plan....

Very good.....

bukhrin · January 4th, 2012, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

How many stations and km is the current Ampang branch of the "Ampang line"? Perhaps a good estimate of the remainder of phase 1 can be obtained from there afterwards.

7 stations at 6 km at grade route, platform length would accommodate a 4-long car train, any platform extensions wouldn't be such a big problem as all the stations are at grade except for Maluri (built on the bridge crossing Jalan Cheras). Not sure how they're going to integrate it with the SP line though.

Having Chan Sow Lin as the integration point means that the alignment would go so far away from the western edge of the Sg Besi Airstrip redevelopment.

Maybe they can go straight southwest to the Cheras station and then continue along the ERL & KTM tracks straight to midvalley.

As there would be cross platform interchanges between some of these planned MRT lines (KLFID), there's little doubt that it would be a 4-long car trains all around. Not so good news for those pushing for 6-car trains.

My gut feeling tells me that we wont be seeing the MRT 2/3 anytime soon unless the financing parts and PDP terms got sorted out for the MRT1 and is a viable model for all the following lines. So all these SPAD plans may end up being academic at the end. But I might be wrong anyway.

TWK90 · January 5th, 2012, 01:48 AM

It is time for KLCC to get another line as there are several higher density (tall buildings) developments being planned or constructed and also for such area which is the landmark of KL, access via rail to KLCC is very limited, i.e only west-east on Kelana Jaya line.

Ideally, 2nd line that passes through KLCC should be of north-south axis.

mrtfreak · January 5th, 2012, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWK90

It is time for KLCC to get another line as there are several higher density (tall buildings) developments being planned or constructed and also for such area which is the landmark of KL, access via rail to KLCC is very limited, i.e only west-east on Kelana Jaya line.

Ideally, 2nd line that passes through KLCC should be of north-south axis.

I was looking at the images, I think the "green line" or MRT3 has the best chance of passing through KLCC. Compared the Pasar Rakyat layout with google maps, the green line points more or less towards KLCC station.

bukhrin · January 5th, 2012, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

I was looking at the images, I think the "green line" or MRT3 has the best chance of passing through KLCC. Compared the Pasar Rakyat layout with google maps, the green line points more or less towards KLCC station.

MRT3 integrates with the KJ Line at Kampung Baru, that's the plan anyway, in line with the Kg Baru redevelopment.

allurban · January 5th, 2012, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWK90

Lets see...

Orange line passing Bangsar, then heading to........probably Mont Kiara or Jalan Duta area?

It seems to me that this should be MRT Circle line

Id rather it be a new monorail line - better suited to the area.

Cheers, m

dengilo · January 5th, 2012, 09:37 AM

I agree!

TWK90 · January 5th, 2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allurban

Id rather it be a new monorail line - better suited to the area.

Cheers, m

Maybe underground monorail section in Bangsar, since the MRT2 (Circle) is going to be underground as well in Bangsar, then Pusat Bandar Damansara.

mrtfreak · January 5th, 2012, 05:01 PM

allurban, didn't you mention that monorail has insufficient capacity? While I agree that terrain-wise, it is better suited to the region, but I also feel that integrating MRT2 with the Ampang branch would be a better solution in the long-term. Capacity is already there along the Ampang branch and integrating it with MRT2 would allow for a better utilisation of facilities and capacity.

TWK90 · January 5th, 2012, 05:20 PM

Well, if it is built as heavy capacity monorail ala Hitachi system in Chongqing or the Bombardier Innovia monorail in Sao Paulo, the capacity is pretty good.

allurban · January 6th, 2012, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

allurban, didn't you mention that monorail has insufficient capacity? While I agree that terrain-wise, it is better suited to the region, but I also feel that integrating MRT2 with the Ampang branch would be a better solution in the long-term. Capacity is already there along the Ampang branch and integrating it with MRT2 would allow for a better utilisation of facilities and capacity.

Insufficient capacity for a mainline, but suitable for a people mover or orbital line.

The most ideal would be somehow combining the old monorail line with the new one to build a complete circle line - then the switches at the terminals would no longer be a limiting factor, since there would be no terminals

If that is the case then capacity can be increased by upgrading the signalling system

Cheers, m

mrtfreak · January 6th, 2012, 05:43 AM

Could work, but then you only serve the western half of KL? If integrated with the Ampang branch, it serves the eastern side too and provides connections that allow people to avoid the city-centre areas.

Also, I guess its good to eliminate the nasty switches. But then aren't you limited as well? Trains can't cross to the other track and if there's a disruption, one-way service only. Even then, maybe not, depending if an evacuation is necessary to another train.

There was really not a lot of foresight in the revived monorail plan.

January 4th, 2012, 01:41 PM	#1324
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,988 Likes (Received): 3	Some screen caps of the station videos featuring the future lines. Pasar Rakyat http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...asarRakyat.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...asarRakyat.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sarRakyat2.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sarRakyat3.jpg PBD http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../Rail/PBD1.jpg

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January 4th, 2012, 11:12 AM	#1321
TWK90 Infrastructure Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaling Jaya Posts: 3,159 Likes (Received): 212	PBD station should be the interchange station to future circle line, I guess.

January 4th, 2012, 12:47 PM	#1323
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,988 Likes (Received): 3	Firstly, apologies. Didn't know this was a new thread, thought it was a response in the existing thread. That said, shall focus more on MRT2 from here on. Isn't that why they're building a depot at Putra Heights now? Then the "Ampang line" could operate out of that while the Ampang depot could be used for MRT2. That also means that MRT2 would take over Maluri station, effectively meaning that the current "Ampang line", from here on referred to as Sri Petaling line, will not have a direct transfer to the MRT1 line.

January 4th, 2012, 02:28 PM	#1325
TWK90 Infrastructure Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaling Jaya Posts: 3,159 Likes (Received): 212	Lets see... Orange line passing Bangsar, then heading to........probably Mont Kiara or Jalan Duta area? It seems to me that this should be MRT Circle line

January 4th, 2012, 04:42 PM	#1327
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,988 Likes (Received): 3	How many stations and km is the current Ampang branch of the "Ampang line"? Perhaps a good estimate of the remainder of phase 1 can be obtained from there afterwards.

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greater KL BANNED Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 199 Likes (Received): 0	Wah..... Greater KL....

January 4th, 2012, 04:54 PM	#1329
greater KL BANNED Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 199 Likes (Received): 0	Good to see all the plan.... Very good.....

January 5th, 2012, 01:48 AM	#1331
TWK90 Infrastructure Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaling Jaya Posts: 3,159 Likes (Received): 212	It is time for KLCC to get another line as there are several higher density (tall buildings) developments being planned or constructed and also for such area which is the landmark of KL, access via rail to KLCC is very limited, i.e only west-east on Kelana Jaya line. Ideally, 2nd line that passes through KLCC should be of north-south axis.

January 5th, 2012, 09:37 AM	#1335
dengilo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,072 Likes (Received): 185	I agree!

January 5th, 2012, 05:01 PM	#1337
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,988 Likes (Received): 3	allurban, didn't you mention that monorail has insufficient capacity? While I agree that terrain-wise, it is better suited to the region, but I also feel that integrating MRT2 with the Ampang branch would be a better solution in the long-term. Capacity is already there along the Ampang branch and integrating it with MRT2 would allow for a better utilisation of facilities and capacity.

January 5th, 2012, 05:20 PM	#1338
TWK90 Infrastructure Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaling Jaya Posts: 3,159 Likes (Received): 212	Well, if it is built as heavy capacity monorail ala Hitachi system in Chongqing or the Bombardier Innovia monorail in Sao Paulo, the capacity is pretty good.

January 6th, 2012, 05:43 AM	#1340
mrtfreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,988 Likes (Received): 3	Could work, but then you only serve the western half of KL? If integrated with the Ampang branch, it serves the eastern side too and provides connections that allow people to avoid the city-centre areas. Also, I guess its good to eliminate the nasty switches. But then aren't you limited as well? Trains can't cross to the other track and if there's a disruption, one-way service only. Even then, maybe not, depending if an evacuation is necessary to another train. There was really not a lot of foresight in the revived monorail plan.