Predict Chicago's 2010 population

[Mr Downtown]

bnk's experience watching "The Price is Right" paid off, and he is the closest. We were all high by 100,000:

bnk		2,811,973	high by 116,375
TUP		2,811,974	high by 116,376
Mr Downtown	2,821,888	high by 126,290
elgüero		2,830,952	high by 135,354
Chicagoago	2,848,988	high by 153,390

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

Expect a challenge to those numbers...

I must say I am also a bit shocked...... or maybe I'm more saddened.

The city will always put a challenge (they did in 1990 and in 2000), but the fact remains the city lost people since 2000. Ultimately, the 2000 growth spurt was a fluke. Chicago is pushing out not only it's middle class families (as it has for decades as I moved out recently), but now lower income families especially African Americans are fed up with the city.


Btw, I not only moved out of the city, but I also left Crook County. Who needs nearly $7500 property taxes for a 1600 sq ft home.

Chicago’s population declined by 200,0418 people, a 6.9 percent drop from 2000, to 2,695,598, according to 2010 census numbers released Tuesday.

Cook County’s population dropped by nearly as much — 182,000, down 3.4 percent from 2000, to 5,194,675 residents.

All of the collar counties saw population gains, which ranged from 1.4 percent in DuPage County to 34.9 percent in Will County. Lake County’s population grew by 9.2 percent, Kane County by 27.5 percent, McHenry by 18.7 percent. Kendall county had the highest percentage growth in the state, 110.4 percent.

The 2010 census totals show DuPage County with 916,924 residents, Lake County with 703,462, Will County with 677,560, Kane County with 515,269, McHenry County with 308,760 and Kendall County with 114,736.

All cities in the top 10 in Illinois other than Chicago and Cicero gained population, led by Aurora, which grew by nearly 55,000 people or 38.4 percent. Joliet, in Will County, had the largest percentage gain, 38.8 percent or 41,000 people. Cicero, in 10th place, dropped by 1,700, to 83,891

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/3...18-people.html

[ChitownCity]

Damn, now that hurted a little bit. I was not expecting the drop to be that much!!! I hope Rahm or whoever wins can turn this around asap... Damn that hurts...

[Mikejesmike]

I just read it and i'm surprised too, I thought the city was doing better from 2000-2010 than it had in the 70's-90's.

[tpe]

Yes, quite surprising. But given how the suburbs were expanding like crazy for most of the past decade, perhaps we should have known better.

[Northsider]

Not surprised...but it's depressing nonetheless. It's sad to see such a great city like Chicago survive rustbelt problems yet lose so much ground.

[Mr Downtown]

While a few flashy new buildings downtown and on the North Side distracted us, the South and West Sides continued to empty out. I suspect persons per unit fell in black areas faster than the number of dwelling units, though.

Here's a Tribune graphic by census tract:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...750399.graphic

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I'm surprised no one is talking about the impacts to City Council and the House yet, in particular the racial impacts. South and West side African-American communities could lose big, maybe even 4-5 alderman. Depending how they re-draw the wards, downtown could get another alderman and I hope the 2nd Ward is split with South and West Loop isolated from the fingers (or split between the two). Who loses out between Bobby Rush, Jesse Jackson Jr., Luis Guttierrez, and Danny Davis?

I hope this brings up the discussion to reduce the size of City Council. With the South and West Sides possilbly losing at least 2 wards each, and with the wards inevitably losing some of their strength with garbage, recycling, pot holes, street cleaning, etc going to grid system, maybe they whould drop down to 30-40 instead of shifting more wards to the downtown and north sides?

[Northsider]

Surprising to see even the suburbs losing in some areas, especially DuPage and Lake

[fajitapants]

It would be interesting to see the numbers on the population growth on the north side. Does anyone else see that darkly shaded gray area on the north and near north side??

[Northsider]

Looks like it's roughly the Damen-Ashland corridor. Just a guess though. The northern boundary is undoubtedly Lawrence

[paytonc]

Originally Posted by Northsider

Surprising to see even the suburbs losing in some areas, especially DuPage and Lake

Probably the result of empty-nesting. Remember that the baby boomlet is off to college these days.

I'd like to see a dot-density map rather than a percentage increase map, à la:
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/maps/citychange.jpg

[untitledreality]

While Chicago lost ground, its nice to see the +15% gains Downtown, the North neighborhoods and what looks like Hyde Park. Also, that the growth of the collar counties is strong... meaning that the region isn't losing ground.

Lets hope this spurs serious discussion/investment by the next Mayor and his team to spur inner city job growth and multi nodal business centers.

[PointDuSable]

Is anyone else surprised at the amount of national attention this is receiving? It was on the frontpage of USA Today yesterday, and today it is the most viewed (and one of the most emailed) article on the WSJ website? Even Stephen Colbert made a joke about it late night on Colbert Report. The story was also featured prominently on Yahoo News and Bloomberg.

Don't get me wrong: I'm as shocked (and disappointed) as anybody, but I'm almost more surprised that this getting so much attention. Granted Chicago is a high-profile city (I'm all for that), but didn't any other major North/Northeastern metropolises lose bodies? How did NYC fare, Philadelphia, Boston, etc...?

[Northsider]

Is anyone else surprised at the amount of national attention this is receiving?

I didn't realize it was getting that much attention (that's what happens when you don't read newspapers and cancel cable service). It is surprising...

[ChitownCity]

^Yea I found that surprising also. I'm not sure if I should count it as a good thing just yet unless it actually sparks up even more interest for the city's well being. I know on SSP it already has 8 pages 4,000+ views in the city discussions section...

[Mikejesmike]

Originally Posted by PointDuSable

but didn't any other major North/Northeastern metropolises lose bodies? How did NYC fare, Philadelphia, Boston, etc...?

Those cities haven't been released yet.

[Northsider]

Does anyone think Chicagoland will someday soon institute some sort of urban growth boundary? All of this sprawling growth in the exurbs can't be a good thing in terms of urban sustainability. I mean, just looking at the map above, if this trend continues throughout the next decades we'll have a dead shell of a city and sprawling suburbs. Kane Co at almost 30% growth?! Sorry but stuff like this just can't be good for the region:
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[Logsy]

Is there Census data available for the Central Area?

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by Northsider

Does anyone think Chicagoland will someday soon institute some sort of urban growth boundary?

No chance in hell. No way Kane, McHenry, DeKalb, Will or Kankakee counties are going to shoot themselves in the foot by controlling growth by zoning (not even Lake County).... The only way to go over their heads is through the Illinois legislature, and that's nearly impossible.

All of this sprawling growth in the exurbs can't be a good thing in terms of urban sustainability. I mean, just looking at the map above, if this trend continues throughout the next decades we'll have a dead shell of a city and sprawling suburbs. Kane Co at almost 30% growth?! Sorry but stuff like this just can't be good for the region:
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It's not good for the city, but it is good for areas that see growth in residents and businesses. You can't blame county planners in Kane or Will county jumping for joy with their new population figures. In the end you have to blame the Chicago and Cook county officials who have taxed and levied fees to the point people vomited, and basically have legitimized political corruption.

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