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gasrock · June 26th, 2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cruizer333444

philippines is the best place for filipinos with money. why stay in america if you can have a nice life style in the philippines. most filipinos in america who dont want to go back home are the janitors, housekeepers, the low income filipinos because they can't save money even working here in states.

That is a pretty broad brush you're painting with cruizer. I don't want to retire in the Philippines but that does not make me a janitor. In fact the opposite is true, those Filipinos with a nice lifestyle in America (Filipinos with money) don't want to retire in the Philippines. I want to visit or explore the possibilities of retiring in the Philippines but I have a hard time letting go of what I'm used to in the states. There's ten of us in my high school graduating class spread all over the US and most of them are professionals and making comfortable living and none of them would even consider retiring in the Philippines. There's no arguing life is good in the Phil. as far as stretching your dollar and having maids and driver and all that but only for an extended vacation. I just can't see giving up my trailer home for a condo in BGC.

marites4 · June 26th, 2006, 08:21 AM

bakit niyo naman minamata at minamaliit ang janitor. eh kung hindi nakapagaral , mabute na yun kesa maging tambay or criminal. As long as its an honest work. The domestic helpers help send their extended families to school and aid the economy in some way. Plus i though in the US there is dignity in labor.

bitoy · June 26th, 2006, 09:29 AM

Maganda pa suweldo minsan ng mga blue collar workers dito sa US.
I worked part time on a gas station owned by a Pinoy in LA during weekends, job includes cleaning the entire area even the toilets. I learned a lot also on repairing or fixing cars. Mababa man ang suweldo, hindi nasasayang ang oras ko. Pang dagdag din yun sa mga gastos ko sa bahay. Kaya okay lang kung lumabas kami ng mga barkada ko sa Pinas tuwing umuuwi ako at mag goodtime. For the boys yun, aasahan ka naman nila talaga pag balikbayan ka.
Kung wala sila, eh di ikaw ang taya. Kung meron naman sila eh di sila ang gumastos.
Ngayon kung magre-retire ako sa Pinas at magulo pa din at walang magandang medical insurance na galing dito na puwedeng gamitin diyan, eh malamang mag-iisip isip uli ako kung mag-eenjoy nga ako sa aking fixed retirement income.

(pooof!) Ok, naisip ko na

Gusto kong magretire dyan, kung marami nang taga dito na dyan na naninirahan habangbuhay. For now, pauwi-uwi na lang is always a good idea.

xDieselJockx · June 26th, 2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cruizer333444

philippines is the best place for filipinos with money. why stay in america if you can have a nice life style in the philippines. most filipinos in america who dont want to go back home are the janitors, housekeepers, the low income filipinos because they can't save money even working here in states. i have a white_american friend who is married to a filipina. he told me his filipina wife doesn't want to back home to the philippines anymore. i know why because she can't save money here in america to have a good life style in the philippines. she works at washington club as a cleaning lady. i knew her husband from high school. his 35 yrs old and they got 2 kids and still staying at his parents house because he only likes to work part time. but what is funny is she likes to go back home to the philippines for vacation and pretend she is super rich here in america. in her mind people in the philippines think they are super rich here in america because she got a white husband. but in reality they live in a trailer at his parents house back yard with thier 2 kids. if people in the philippines only knew how hard life in america also. most filipino balikbayans from america only like to show the good part of america. if you are a filipino with money, philippines is still the best place to live not america

No americans or even foreign americans/ alien residents who pay their dues on Uncle Sam needs to save money for the future, although, it helps alot if you do. Once you retire in America, you would receive a certain amount of dollars each month whether you are the lowest paid employee of the company. Now, why in the world these retirees whom are not salaried professionals can't afford a decent lifestyle in the Philippines?

Maybe your filipina american friend does not want to retire in the Philippines because of her children and the future grandchildren would be too far from her if she decided to stay in the Philippines for good. Maybe the lady friend of yours are afraid she would get sick and won't receive a proper medical attention there in the Philippines and that Medicare/medicaid benefit she would receive from Uncle Sam wouldn't cover it.

Another factor is that she is already accustomed with her life in America and can't see herself living in the Philippines anymore but most likely, i think it's her family is the main reason for her decision.

cruizer333444 · June 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM

the main reason she doesn't want to go back to the philippines is because she is poor in our native home land, just like 99.9% of filipinos who immigrate to the states but dont want to admit it. the rich filipinos are not leaving the philippines, its only the middle class and poor. we have good medical care in the philippines . all the major hospitals here in seattle have nurses that graduated in the philippines. almost all the nursing home here in seattle have filipina attendants. you are being taking care here in america by filipinas. you can have that in the philippines also, only its better. ---(accustomed to her life in america) yes she is because she is poor in the philippines. if she was rich she wouldn't be accustomed living in a trailer at her husband parents house here in seattle. plus the rich filipinas in the philippines dont do penpals. its only the middle class and poor that do those things to escape poverty .

3cr · June 26th, 2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gasrock

I just can't see giving up my trailer home for a condo in BGC.

Hehehe...funny you mentioned this Gasrock, ako kasi I'm actually just about to do this swap and am looking forward to the lifestyle change (away from the hustle and bustle of the daily grind). Looking for that change of pace, enjoy life more. Guess we'll just have to see what the future brings. See you at the SSCF BayArea Meet!

amigo32 · June 26th, 2006, 02:37 PM

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Masarap ba tumira sa trailer home? Puede kaya sa Pinas yan? Parang gusto kong gawin dito yan ah. Anong address mo?

marites4 · June 26th, 2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cruizer333444

the main reason she doesn't want to go back to the philippines is because she is poor in our native home land, just like 99.9% of filipinos who immigrate to the states but dont want to admit it. the rich filipinos are not leaving the philippines, its only the middle class and poor. we have good medical care in the philippines . all the major hospitals here in seattle have nurses that graduated in the philippines. almost all the nursing home here in seattle have filipina attendants. you are being taking care here in america by filipinas. you can have that in the philippines also, only its better. ---(accustomed to her life in america) yes she is because she is poor in the philippines. if she was rich she wouldn't be accustomed living in a trailer at her husband parents house here in seattle. plus the rich filipinas in the philippines dont do penpals. its only the middle class and poor that do those things to escape poverty .

oh yeah then why do all the rich and trapos in the PHils own hidden properties in the states and always have a relative in the states and send their children to schools in the states.

gasrock · June 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 3cr

Hehehe...funny you mentioned this Gasrock, ako kasi I'm actually just about to do this swap and am looking forward to the lifestyle change (away from the hustle and bustle of the daily grind). Looking for that change of pace, enjoy life more. Guess we'll just have to see what the future brings. See you at the SSCF BayArea Meet!

3cr - I know you're planning to go back to pinas to retire but hoping you'd still be here for the Bay Area meet. Sounds like you will be. We all know the advantages of going back to pinas with our dollars buying more and the servants and the escape from the daily grind. But of course it's not for everyone due to other reasons like family and health care and local ties etc. We'll talk about this at the meet.

Marites- hindi ko naman minamata ang mga janitor I was just drawing attention to the misconception that only janitors and domestic help are the only ones that don't want to retire in pinas as originally stated. Of course I agree with you on the dignity of work and my friends in manila always make fun of me when I make pakiusap to the waiters and waitresses there when I need something.

Amigo - I don't really have a trailer home but if you bring your own trailer I'll let you park it in my backyard and we'll both find out.

cruizer333444 · June 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM

to marites----the rich filipinos are still in the philippines, they are not moving out and coming to the states. im from zamboanga and i never heard of any rich zamboangueno selling his/her business and moving to the states. all the zamboanguenos i know here in the states are all middle class and poor in zamboanga. about the health care issue. most people who are retiring here in the states are getting only $700 on average on social security and medicare pays very little. with $700 a month you'll get great meidical care in the philippines. here in the states with $700 you need to work till you are 70 yrs old then stay at a low income retirement home. if you are smart (marites) you'll buy a condo in makati and by the time you reach 62 yrs old you can get early retirement then retire in the philippines then live well. but me im shooting at the age of 46 yrs old. i want to go back home and enjoy life knowing i dont have to work 9 to 5, 5 days a week. america is just all hype. the majority of the people here are still slave for the super rich. philippines is still the best place if you are a filipino with money. no substitute. in the philippines you dont feel out of place like here in the states. no place like home (marites) l

marites4 · June 26th, 2006, 07:35 PM

NO sense in being rich if you're surrounded by a mass of poverty. What's the sense in having jewels if you can't wear it in public. or a mansion if you're gated like a fortress surrounded by security guards. One major issue the govt. has to tackle is security. A lot of potential retirees are deterred by the security situation. A good way of improving that is by narrowing the gap between the haves and have nots by increasing the middle class. OFws and other expats help increase the middle class so stop putting them down so much saying they're all poor the reason they migrate.

bitoy · June 26th, 2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cruizer333444

to marites----the rich filipinos are still in the philippines, they are not moving out and coming to the states. im from zamboanga and i never heard of any rich zamboangueno selling his/her business and moving to the states. all the zamboanguenos i know here in the states are all middle class and poor in zamboanga. about the health care issue. most people who are retiring here in the states are getting only $700 on average on social security and medicare pays very little. with $700 a month you'll get great meidical care in the philippines. here in the states with $700 you need to work till you are 70 yrs old then stay at a low income retirement home. if you are smart (marites) you'll buy a condo in makati and by the time you reach 62 yrs old you can get early retirement then retire in the philippines then live well. but me im shooting at the age of 46 yrs old. i want to go back home and enjoy life knowing i dont have to work 9 to 5, 5 days a week. america is just all hype. the majority of the people here are still slave for the super rich. philippines is still the best place if you are a filipino with money. no substitute. in the philippines you dont feel out of place like here in the states. no place like home (marites) l

I don't know what to say about your observation. That is how you see life in America then I respect your views, but I totally disagree.

cruizer333444 · June 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM

to marites----frist lets tell the truth why we immigrated to america. we are here because we are not rich in the philippines. rich filipinos are not leaving the country, its only the middle class and poor thats doing that. lets not give an impression that we are super rich in the philippines and thats why we immigrated to the u.s, we all know thats a lie. when you said that the rich can't go anyhwere an less they got body guards thats another lie. maybe if you are lucio tan, henry sy etc. but thats the same case with bill gates, warren buffet here in the u.s, they have body guards. philippines is a safe place. dont make the philippines look like somalia. fili[pinos here in the u.s always like to put down the philippines so that they will look good. filipinos who immigrated to the u.s are not rich in the philippines.

darielqrenz · June 27th, 2006, 06:49 PM

well.. your country is lagging behind us
philipine such a failing state in SEA, compare to malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

marites4 · June 27th, 2006, 06:50 PM

^ I didn't state that filipinos who immigrate to the US are rich in the PHIls. What is definition of rich to you anyway? lucio tan? HEnry Sy well you can count them in a handful. Im not comparing PHils to Somalia and badmouthing the PHILs. But there is truth that security at countries where there is a huge gap between the rich and poor is questionable. I don't think they'll snatch your cellphones in the US. A large middle class is better than having a few elite rich. I think you have comprehension problems.

marites4 · June 27th, 2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by darielqrenz

well.. your country is lagging behind us
philipine such a failing state in SEA, compare to malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

this is out of line and not related to the topic at hand.

darielqrenz · June 27th, 2006, 06:52 PM

well your country lagging behind us..
philipine is such a failing state,, compare to his closest neighbours such as malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

marites4 · June 27th, 2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by darielqrenz

well your country lagging behind us..
philipine is such a failing state,, compare to his closest neighbours such as malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

this is out of line and not related at the topic at hand.

cruizer333444 · June 27th, 2006, 11:21 PM

a failed state is like somaila, ereatrea, sudan, eitiopia etc. where warlords runs the country. philippines is in the ball park of malaysia indonesia and thailand. if the philippes is a failed state henry sy wouldn't be putting up malls all over the country. from where are you darielgrenz?

darielqrenz · June 28th, 2006, 07:30 AM

im from malaysia,, i knew that the phillipines has the lowest income percapita which is $ 1070 while malaysia $5060 thailand $2500 and indonesia $ 1370..
according to gdp percapita indonesia is the largest economy in SEA,, im gonna give you the list anyway,

8 26 Indonesia 284,072
10 34 Thailand 174,545
11 37 Malaysia 127,942
13 41 Singapore 116,326
15 48 Philippines 92,586
20 60 Vietnam 47,111
33 108 Myanmar 8,867
35 120 Brunei 5,721
36 132 Cambodia 4,583
43 173 East Timor 33

im hoping that ur country can be a 100 billion dollars in the coming years
cheers

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June 26th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#62
marites4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 781 Likes (Received): 0	bakit niyo naman minamata at minamaliit ang janitor. eh kung hindi nakapagaral , mabute na yun kesa maging tambay or criminal. As long as its an honest work. The domestic helpers help send their extended families to school and aid the economy in some way. Plus i though in the US there is dignity in labor.

June 26th, 2006, 09:29 AM	#63
bitoy Ang tunay na BITOY Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,232 Likes (Received): 50	Maganda pa suweldo minsan ng mga blue collar workers dito sa US. I worked part time on a gas station owned by a Pinoy in LA during weekends, job includes cleaning the entire area even the toilets. I learned a lot also on repairing or fixing cars. Mababa man ang suweldo, hindi nasasayang ang oras ko. Pang dagdag din yun sa mga gastos ko sa bahay. Kaya okay lang kung lumabas kami ng mga barkada ko sa Pinas tuwing umuuwi ako at mag goodtime. For the boys yun, aasahan ka naman nila talaga pag balikbayan ka. Kung wala sila, eh di ikaw ang taya. Kung meron naman sila eh di sila ang gumastos. Ngayon kung magre-retire ako sa Pinas at magulo pa din at walang magandang medical insurance na galing dito na puwedeng gamitin diyan, eh malamang mag-iisip isip uli ako kung mag-eenjoy nga ako sa aking fixed retirement income. (pooof!) Ok, naisip ko na Gusto kong magretire dyan, kung marami nang taga dito na dyan na naninirahan habangbuhay. For now, pauwi-uwi na lang is always a good idea.

June 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM	#65
cruizer333444 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 520 Likes (Received): 0	the main reason she doesn't want to go back to the philippines is because she is poor in our native home land, just like 99.9% of filipinos who immigrate to the states but dont want to admit it. the rich filipinos are not leaving the philippines, its only the middle class and poor. we have good medical care in the philippines . all the major hospitals here in seattle have nurses that graduated in the philippines. almost all the nursing home here in seattle have filipina attendants. you are being taking care here in america by filipinas. you can have that in the philippines also, only its better. ---(accustomed to her life in america) yes she is because she is poor in the philippines. if she was rich she wouldn't be accustomed living in a trailer at her husband parents house here in seattle. plus the rich filipinas in the philippines dont do penpals. its only the middle class and poor that do those things to escape poverty .

June 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM	#70
cruizer333444 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 520 Likes (Received): 0	to marites----the rich filipinos are still in the philippines, they are not moving out and coming to the states. im from zamboanga and i never heard of any rich zamboangueno selling his/her business and moving to the states. all the zamboanguenos i know here in the states are all middle class and poor in zamboanga. about the health care issue. most people who are retiring here in the states are getting only $700 on average on social security and medicare pays very little. with $700 a month you'll get great meidical care in the philippines. here in the states with $700 you need to work till you are 70 yrs old then stay at a low income retirement home. if you are smart (marites) you'll buy a condo in makati and by the time you reach 62 yrs old you can get early retirement then retire in the philippines then live well. but me im shooting at the age of 46 yrs old. i want to go back home and enjoy life knowing i dont have to work 9 to 5, 5 days a week. america is just all hype. the majority of the people here are still slave for the super rich. philippines is still the best place if you are a filipino with money. no substitute. in the philippines you dont feel out of place like here in the states. no place like home (marites) l

June 26th, 2006, 07:35 PM	#71
marites4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 781 Likes (Received): 0	NO sense in being rich if you're surrounded by a mass of poverty. What's the sense in having jewels if you can't wear it in public. or a mansion if you're gated like a fortress surrounded by security guards. One major issue the govt. has to tackle is security. A lot of potential retirees are deterred by the security situation. A good way of improving that is by narrowing the gap between the haves and have nots by increasing the middle class. OFws and other expats help increase the middle class so stop putting them down so much saying they're all poor the reason they migrate.

June 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM	#73
cruizer333444 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 520 Likes (Received): 0	to marites----frist lets tell the truth why we immigrated to america. we are here because we are not rich in the philippines. rich filipinos are not leaving the country, its only the middle class and poor thats doing that. lets not give an impression that we are super rich in the philippines and thats why we immigrated to the u.s, we all know thats a lie. when you said that the rich can't go anyhwere an less they got body guards thats another lie. maybe if you are lucio tan, henry sy etc. but thats the same case with bill gates, warren buffet here in the u.s, they have body guards. philippines is a safe place. dont make the philippines look like somalia. fili[pinos here in the u.s always like to put down the philippines so that they will look good. filipinos who immigrated to the u.s are not rich in the philippines.

June 27th, 2006, 06:49 PM	#74
darielqrenz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32 Likes (Received): 0	well.. your country is lagging behind us philipine such a failing state in SEA, compare to malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

June 27th, 2006, 06:50 PM	#75
marites4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 781 Likes (Received): 0	^ I didn't state that filipinos who immigrate to the US are rich in the PHIls. What is definition of rich to you anyway? lucio tan? HEnry Sy well you can count them in a handful. Im not comparing PHils to Somalia and badmouthing the PHILs. But there is truth that security at countries where there is a huge gap between the rich and poor is questionable. I don't think they'll snatch your cellphones in the US. A large middle class is better than having a few elite rich. I think you have comprehension problems.

June 27th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#77
darielqrenz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32 Likes (Received): 0	well your country lagging behind us.. philipine is such a failing state,, compare to his closest neighbours such as malaysia,indonesia,thailand,singapore

June 27th, 2006, 11:21 PM	#79
cruizer333444 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 520 Likes (Received): 0	a failed state is like somaila, ereatrea, sudan, eitiopia etc. where warlords runs the country. philippines is in the ball park of malaysia indonesia and thailand. if the philippes is a failed state henry sy wouldn't be putting up malls all over the country. from where are you darielgrenz?

June 28th, 2006, 07:30 AM	#80
darielqrenz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32 Likes (Received): 0	im from malaysia,, i knew that the phillipines has the lowest income percapita which is $ 1070 while malaysia $5060 thailand $2500 and indonesia $ 1370.. according to gdp percapita indonesia is the largest economy in SEA,, im gonna give you the list anyway, 8 26 Indonesia 284,072 10 34 Thailand 174,545 11 37 Malaysia 127,942 13 41 Singapore 116,326 15 48 Philippines 92,586 20 60 Vietnam 47,111 33 108 Myanmar 8,867 35 120 Brunei 5,721 36 132 Cambodia 4,583 43 173 East Timor 33 im hoping that ur country can be a 100 billion dollars in the coming years cheers