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[marites4]

Originally Posted by xDieselJockx

I know several rich filipinos who still moved to the US. A daughter of a "Savet" clan whose late mother was a lawyer, her dad is a surgeon in prestigeous hospital in the Philippines. She's an MD especializing internal medicine in St John's hospital here in our city. I knew of a family who used to own a well known pastry shop in the Philippines who moved in the US and started the same business catering to the filipino community and is still doing well. A few other Physicians I knew whom are all well respected in our community, they are all Philippine graduate.

Although, I agree with some of what you said, in term of population of filipino americans, there are alot who works in a non- prefessional arena. You would see them mostly in East or West-coast areas, namely California and New York. But as you move towards inland, You would see alot of highly paid professionals who are filipinos along side with people from India.

YOu are wrong most Filipinos have at least a bachelor degree compared to the mainstream of AMerica. Filipinos value education highly . The fact that they can't practice their proffesion or have to start at the lower rung are constraints of new immigrants in an entirely different society. language, culture, nonaccreditation of educational attainment,discrimination.
For example a dentist weknow started out as a lab technician. After a few years of review and hard work he is now a practicing dentist.
Filipinos will venture to foreign shores even if the situation in the Phils does not warrant it , because they are adventurous souls .

[marites4]

Originally Posted by cruizer333444

to marites---lots of filipinos in america dont want to be filipinos anymore, not only hawaians. this shows its the poor ignorant filipinos who are coming to america because they have this kind of attitude. a few days ago i when to a grocery. and one of the clerk that was checking out my grocery is a filipina. my key chain has the filipino flag. when i gave her the key chain because the discount card of the grocery is clip to the key chain. when she saw the filipino flag she didn't say anything to me. i could sense she trying to avoid being filipina. but from her looks and accent im 100% sure she is pinay. 2 days ago i was there again at the grocery, its funny i could hear her talk to a white american and she was trying to cover her accent. lol.

this is passe.
I think you're the one insecure and trying to cover your inadequacy of not making it in AMerica so you escapegoat by putting others down.

[cruizer333444]

to marites---you are the one who is insecure because you keep praising america. philippines is our homeland, no matter how long we have live in america. even if you are born here in america, people still identify you as filipino, not american. you know why marites? because its the white people who made this country, stop praising america. philippines is still the best (marites) if you are a pinoy. no place like home. retiring in the philippines is alot better than here in america. all you are going to do here is watch t.v. whats even better is going home at the age of 46 or if you can younger so that you can really enjoy life. life in the philippines is totally different from the states. in the philippines its easy to make friends. here in america people are stuck up and rude. ---just yesterday, my pinoy friend , his 2 yr old daughter and i went to mcdonalds fast food restaurant. his daughter was talking to her self like 2 yr old do. this black lady sitting across from as told my friend to keep his daughter quiet because she is talking on the cell phone. thats america. the land of the rudeness. america is all hype. i still like to be with my people (marites) once im 46 yrs old im out of here. america is nothing.

[marites4]

ok cruiezer to each his own.
The people in america may be rude but you aren't you being a hyprocrite. what are you doing in AMerica in the first place if you hate it so much.
Arent you benefitting from America too.
Philippines may be a paradise country but it's far from perfect. There is no perfect country. America may have discrimination , racism but it's the closest thing to a working efficient democratic system.

[Fusaichi]

Originally Posted by cruizer333444

can't wait to go back home to zamboanga, philippines. filipinos here in the states makes the u.s appear like its heaven. work in the philippines is the same here in the u.s . the only difference is the wage. if you are a janitor in the philippines the work here in america is still the same humiliating. many filipinos here in the u.s are doing service jobs like janitor,housekeeping,nursing aid, clerk, etc. what i dont understand is they can save money while working in the u.s then go back home and live a dignified life and at the same time helping their native country by investing like building a house. but i guess they are too dumb to start a business in the philippines and plus most are broke in america. america is just all hype. 30 yrs mortgage to own a house is that in america is that heaven? maybe if you are poor in the philippines

May we know why and how you ended up here in the U.S.?

[xDieselJockx]

Originally Posted by marites4

YOu are wrong most Filipinos have at least a bachelor degree compared to the mainstream of AMerica. Filipinos value education highly . The fact that they can't practice their proffesion or have to start at the lower rung are constraints of new immigrants in an entirely different society. language, culture, nonaccreditation of educational attainment,discrimination.
For example a dentist weknow started out as a lab technician. After a few years of review and hard work he is now a practicing dentist.
Filipinos will venture to foreign shores even if the situation in the Phils does not warrant it , because they are adventurous souls .

I'm talking about some of the families of these professionals who entered the US, they wanted their families to be closer to them so once they are a citizen, they would petition each and every family members they can possibly bring over the US, those are the ones who seeks jobs in a lower work force, others are wives of the ex military servicemen who aren't really well educated. There are alot of them.

I did say I met several well to do filipinos who moved to the US am I? I was disproving cruizer's idea that the filipinos does the dirty jobs in the US. I think you misunderstood me. I'm in a neutral stand there miss marites...

[xDieselJockx]

Originally Posted by cruizer333444

to marites---you are the one who is insecure because you keep praising america. philippines is our homeland, no matter how long we have live in america. even if you are born here in america, people still identify you as filipino, not american. you know why marites? because its the white people who made this country, stop praising america. philippines is still the best (marites) if you are a pinoy. no place like home. retiring in the philippines is alot better than here in america. all you are going to do here is watch t.v. whats even better is going home at the age of 46 or if you can younger so that you can really enjoy life. life in the philippines is totally different from the states. in the philippines its easy to make friends. here in america people are stuck up and rude. ---just yesterday, my pinoy friend , his 2 yr old daughter and i went to mcdonalds fast food restaurant. his daughter was talking to her self like 2 yr old do. this black lady sitting across from as told my friend to keep his daughter quiet because she is talking on the cell phone. thats america. the land of the rudeness. america is all hype. i still like to be with my people (marites) once im 46 yrs old im out of here. america is nothing.

I surely believe that this guy is really pretending to be in America, because if he is in america and live here in a long time? If the descrimination towards him are that bad and it affects him mentally, emotionally and morally, why in the world he lasted that long? I belive this is a filipino guy who is trying hard to be very patriotic and is jealous of a better life his fellow filipino countrymen is enjoying in America.

I'm sure he is bitter because cruizzer has no way nor chance to make it in America to make his life better. Racism isn't totally extinguished in America but aren't some filipinos are racist themselves also? Sadly, some of the filipinos are racist against their own race. You can tell a good filipino apart from the bad ones..

[OtAkAw]

Can somebody tell me a short story about American discrimination to Filipinos? I would really appreciate it, thank you very much!

[FlowFlow]

well i'll get back to topic.. hope wala namang personallan..

just exchange ideas di ba?

Iba naman ang western culture sa asian.. tayo 16-17 palang papunta na ng college.. sila mga 20+ na hindi pa..

Of course, answering the question.. I'd love to retire here! this is my home e.. though I also dream of studying/working abroad.. syempre.. pero if I would land a decent job here.. then by all means dito nalang ako magwork in the first place..

[amigo32]

Originally Posted by FlowFlow

well i'll get back to topic.. hope wala namang personallan..

just exchange ideas di ba?

Iba naman ang western culture sa asian.. tayo 16-17 palang papunta na ng college.. sila mga 20+ na hindi pa..

Of course, answering the question.. I'd love to retire here! this is my home e.. though I also dream of studying/working abroad.. syempre.. pero if I would land a decent job here.. then by all means dito nalang ako magwork in the first place..

Why not create jobs? Be an entrepreneur.

Yan kasi ang kailangan ng bansa natin para umasenso.

[marites4]

Kaya nga eh ^ ideas on paano yumaman ang PIlipinas at hindi lang paano yumaman ang mga elitistang pilipino.

[marites4]

Originally Posted by xDieselJockx

I'm talking about some of the families of these professionals who entered the US, they wanted their families to be closer to them so once they are a citizen, they would petition each and every family members they can possibly bring over the US, those are the ones who seeks jobs in a lower work force, others are wives of the ex military servicemen who aren't really well educated. There are alot of them.

I did say I met several well to do filipinos who moved to the US am I? I was disproving cruizer's idea that the filipinos does the dirty jobs in the US. I think you misunderstood me. I'm in a neutral stand there miss marites...

yup but the US Cencus states accross the board filams as a group are more highly educated, have higher median income, lower poverty rate, lower welfare assistance rate compared to the general population.
THis inspite of discrimination, language barrier.

Those people who are petitioned , you'd be surprised those people are educated too but just because they don't have a good command of the ENglish language they will not be able to work the highly skilled jobs.

[cruizer333444]

if more filipiinos have the same mentality like me of coming to the states just to save money and go back home and invest it in our mother land, the philippines will be in a better shape. i already invested $140,000 in zamboanga. i just had a 2 storie rental building build in zamboanga. my next mission is build a 4 units appartment. once thats build im going home. not only im i going to have a better life in zamboanga because i dont have to work 9 to 5 killing myself with stress, im helping my filipino country. not the white american country. stop your colonial mentality filipinos in america. the white people still thinks we are their muchachos. dont ever think that the white think you are egual. thats why there is no substitute to the philippines if you are pinoy. nothing to be mayabang being in america. its nothing.

[marites4]

it's not just filipinos who try to come to the US in droves.
JUst look at the CHinese you even find them smuggled in container boxes just to get to the US. Chinese, Indian, vietnamese, korean, PErsians pakistanis,even Japanese , in Japan commonpeople have to live in a one room box in the cities because it's so crowded and cost of living is so so so high.

[amigo32]

Originally Posted by cruizer333444

if more filipiinos have the same mentality like me of coming to the states just to save money and go back home and invest it in our mother land, the philippines will be in a better shape. i already invested $140,000 in zamboanga. i just had a 2 storie rental building build in zamboanga. my next mission is build a 4 units appartment. once thats build im going home. not only im i going to have a better life in zamboanga because i dont have to work 9 to 5 killing myself with stress, im helping my filipino country. not the white american country. stop your colonial mentality filipinos in america. the white people still thinks we are their muchachos. dont ever think that the white think you are egual. thats why there is no substitute to the philippines if you are pinoy. nothing to be mayabang being in america. its nothing.

I'm glad you have investments in the Philippines. Hope to see more Pinoys do the same.

[Fusaichi]

From PinoyExchange: Asian Wiggers

Originally Posted by rabbaddal

There is something that can be said about Filipino immigrants in the United States, considering that the comments mentioned pertain to them. While the statistics don’t paint the entire picture, they tell a positive story. Based on the 2000 census:

- 72.4% have completed post-high school education, higher than the national average of 51.8%

- 71% participate in the formal documented labor force, higher than the national average of 69.3% and the average rate for Chinese immigrants of 69.3%

- 83.8% of those employed are working in white collar jobs, higher than the national average of 75.2%

- US$65,000 median family income, higher than the national median of US$50,000

Another study found that the average price of homes bought by Filipino immigrants in the US range from approximately US$640,000 to US$720,000, higher than the national median home price of US$562,000. Furthermore, research done in Yale University found that second-generation Filipino-Americans attain a higher level of education and receive higher incomes than the first generation of Filipino immigrants.

These might just be numbers to some but to the Fil-Ams who are enjoying the best of both worlds, these are realities.

Just keep on finding the best future in your life no matter where you are, it's your life and it is up to you on how you want to make it in this world.

[marites4]

agree hope more pinoys don't give up as easily on the PHILS by taking the easy way out and migrating. YOu cannot have instant yaman. But for those who opted to do that then goodluck and best wishes for them.

[kiretoce]

Is the Philippines the new retirement haven of Southeast Asia?

The race to become the star retirement destination of Southeast Asia has started. The Filipino government has made it its flagship program. They hope to attract their own cash-rich expatriates and retirees of the developed world. To realize their ambitions, the government has selected certain key destinations and plans to introduce juicy tax incentives. Robinsons Land Corp has announced that it plans to develop new retirement villages. They have budgeted P 6 billion towards the development of this promising sector.

Are the Philippines set to become the new retirement haven of Southeast Asia as the government puts it? Robinsons Land Corp. is certainly working towards this goal. To meet market demand, the property developer wants to invest in and develop new leisure and retirement villages. The decision reflects the government's ambition to promote towns such as Fort Bonifacio, Makati City, Clark, etc. as retirement destinations of the future. The trade department might want to reduce taxes in such areas to attract new residents.

Land developers are presently targeting Filipinos abroad and the estimated 900 million retirees in the developed world in 2015. Overseas Filipino workers in the USA showed interest in the retirement village projects. Presently Robinsons land has introduced two major residential projects and has budgeted p 6.1 billion for the year to grow its business.

[Animo]

WHEN retired PNP General Edgar Aglipay was called by the President from Washington to offer him a job as Chairman of the Philippine Retirement Authority, he didn’t know anything about that agency. "We should help sell the country," the President told him. He was mandated to create a national retirement industry program.

Actually the PRA has been around for some time, and doing well enough in its modest way. But the Philippines only draws about 500 foreign retirees a year, compared to Thailand and Malaysia 20,000 each a year. The problem, General Aglipay soon discovered when he studied the PRA record was that "we didn’t really have a program." PRA was run, rather like an investors visa in the US, where for a certain amount of money, a foreigner could settle in the Philippines and have multiple exit and reentry privileges without having to go through immigration each time. That was why I, for instance, joined after I was widowed.

Now the president wants to upgrade the retirement industry to a flagship project. In an agreement with PEZA, retirement villages will be Special economic zones. Tourist locations will be established near existing hospitals to provide convenient healthcare. The General is working on such lures as making health insurance "portable" so that what you had in the States or Europe or Japan or Korea would apply here. There is also a program for training of manpower to care for retirees needs.

General Aglipay has appointed a knowledgeable board of advisors, well versed in housing and public service. By 2015 he hopes to get a million retirees a year, the care of which will employ four million Filipinos and produce $ 44 million annually in revenues.

Some retirement villages have already sprouted, built by Japanese and Korean companies for their retirees who choose to come to the Philippines. Agreements have been reached that foreign doctors can become part of the staff of hospitals to serve as interpreters, but not practice.

Outside of the Philippines the world is facing a declining fertility rate and increasing longevity, which makes pensions unsustainable and elderly retirees are seeking least expensive homes.

What are retirees looking for? Climate, security, proximity to medical facilities, a skilled and hospitable workforce, low cost of living. And desirable accommodation. The Philippines can qualify for all these needs.

The newly formed Philippine Retirement Industry held its first summit on July 3rd designed to create and launch a world class retirement industry with the private sector taking the lead, backed by strong support from the government. Key private sector participants include Ayala, Filinvest, Megaworld, Robinsons, Shoemart, and for healthcare the following hospitals have signed on: St. Lukes, Manila Doctors, Asian Hospitals, and others.

Inventories of potential retirees sites have already been identified all over the Philippines and the mapping of existing hospitals against tourist locations. The market thus far is headed by Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China. Next in line are retired overseas workers, Americans, Canadians and Europeans. Assuming only 10% of the 869 million retirees in these target markets thinks about relocating, that represent 86 million people. As further inducement the requirement of fifty thousand dollars for a retirement visa is being reduced to 20,000 for people over fifty which is comparable to the rates charged by Thailand and Malaysia.

The government is serious about promoting the Philippines as a top haven for foreign retirees in Asia. President GMA was just back from her European trip in time to be guest of honor at the first Philippine Retirement Industry summit. While some investments are expected to be forthcoming for her trip in the fields of energy and communications, the most positive results are in the field of tourism and homes for retirees.

When the president and her party were in Spain, two leading Spanish hotel chains, Occidental and Rumasa, inked an agreement for their first investment in Asia. Tourism Secretary Durano suggested they build beach resort since they are popular and the Philippines lacks sufficient good accommodation for the number of tourists that come here from Japan, Korea and China. Locally, the Palawan government announced it is planning to build a R2 billion medical tourism/retiree center with funding from its share of the earnings of the Malampaya Gas Field and mining revenues.

Successful retiree communities need easy access to airports, hospitals, golf courses, beaches and shopping malls. They also need security. An agreement with DILC, DWD and the Philippine police will provide security in retirement communities which have already been identified in Batangas, Tagaytay, Baguio, Subic, Clark and Palawan.

Another plus for the global reach of the Philippines as a haven for retirees is that Manila was judged the least expensive city in Asia for expatriates and retirees to live, according to the Mercer Human Resource international report.

http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2006/07/...071169020.html

[bulakenyo]

OFW PROPERTY FOCUS
Retirement villages to earn $40B, generate 4M jobs

May 30, 2006
Updated 10:03am (Mla time)
Tessa Salazar
Inquirer

A DRAMATIC SHIFT IN selected countries’ demographics in the near future could bring in at least 859,000 foreign retiree arrivals to the Philippines. That number represents less than one percent of the 869.1 million projected retirees the developed world will produce between 2006 and 2015.

Foreseeing nearly a billion retirees looking for a place to spend the rest of their lives, the local retirement industry, especially property developers, are being urged to prepare for at least nearly a million retirees from Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, the United States, Canada and other European countries and even former Filipinos or “balikbayans” with dual citizenships looking forward to spend the twilight of their lives back to their homeland.

Housing demand

The main participant, which is the real estate industry, is projected to have 859,000 housing demand either lease or purchase for the next 10 years.

The retirement industry is projected to hit the target foreign exchange receipts at a cumulative $40 billion, with 4 million jobs generated by 2015, making the Philippines a major retirement haven in Southeast Asia for foreigners.

“We don’t have a retirement industry right now. SHDA (Subdivision and Housing Developers Association) is spearheading the creation of the industry. If we’ll not work as a team, we cannot compete with Thailand and Malaysia—two of the main destinations of retirees,” said Noel Gonzales, summit chair and director of the Philippine Retirement Industry. PRI is a private sector organization composed of real estate, health care and lifestyle group.

Industry blueprint

He added that the summit for the retirement industry culminating on July 3 in Shangri-La Makati will create a blueprint for the retirement industry.

Government agency Philippine Retirement Authority and private entity PRI revealed that the other infrastructure necessary for the influx of the retiree market are health and insurance facilities (24-hour clinics, hospitals, airlift ambulance services); 24-hour security arrangements; and recreational, cultural and educational and travel/transportation services.

All these infrastructure and services, the two agencies said, could be integrated into a so-called “retirement village” so that members would have easier access to such services and facilities.

Gen. Edgardo Aglipay, chair of the PRA and Gonzales are scheduled to present plans for the retirement industry to President Macapagal-Arroyo on Tuesday.

Big 5 developers

Ernesto Ordoñez, incoming president of the PRI, revealed that initially his group has already united the “Big 5” property developers—Gotianun, Gokongwei, Sy, Ayala and Tan—to be part of the group.

Aglipay stressed that the first wave of retirees coming to the Philippines is crucial for the country’s subsequent success in the retirement industry. Thus, he said, it would be necessary to get the support of big names that have the reputation, experience and capability to produce what are needed for the retirement communities.

“They have the condominiums, hospitals, banks, almost everything that a retirement industry needs. It’s just integrating what they have to be able to provide the total retirement services,” he said.

Retirement ‘hotspots’

Prospective retirement “hotspots” have been identified in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. These include Metro Clark, Metro Subic, Baguio, Tagaytay, Batangas, Laguna, Cavite, Cebu, Bohol, Bacolod, Palawan, Davao and Cagayan de Oro.

Gonzales revealed that the reasons for the demographic shift favoring the Philippines include pension payment increases in developed countries amounting $1,000 to $1,500 per individual would be insufficient to live on in such countries; family support systems for older people are eroding because of smaller families and a highly mobile population; and the inevitability of mass migration.

Another objective that the groups hope to achieve is the reverse migration of Filipino caregivers.

By 2025, the number of people aged 60 and over will be highest in Japan, Italy and Germany.

120-ha. retirement village

Meanwhile, a retirement village in Bantay, Ilocos Sur, is on the drawing boards as revealed recently by Ilocos Sur Gov. Luis Chavit Singson to the Inquirer.

Over 120 hectares of rolling hills in Bantay, a town near Vigan, have already been surveyed.

“It will be retirement homes for different nationalities like Koreans, Germans and Taiwanese. And then right at the center of the community would be mall facilities—movie houses and supermarkets,” Singson said.


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