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Old February 12th, 2011, 09:53 PM   #1
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Should Iraq recoqnise Israel?

Just came to me today, so I'd like to know what the rest of the Iraqis think. Please vote yes or no with a reason.

I'll start off and my answer is yes Iraq should recognise Israel, what have the rest of the Islamic world done for Iraq? were the Palestinians not the ones that were mourning saddam (may he burn in hell)? This is not to say that I don't support Palestinian rights, off course I do but at the same time I don't support the wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #2
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i vote neither. throw this ball far in the distance since a lot of people in iraq reject israel at the moment. once the country is fed, educated and we have decent jobs and infrastructure it can be brought up. at the moment it would just pour oil on a fire that we want to put out.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #3
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i vote neither. throw this ball far in the distance since a lot of people in iraq reject israel at the moment. once the country is fed, educated and we have decent jobs and infrastructure it can be brought up. at the moment it would just pour oil on a fire that we want to put out.
Well, I don't understand why... I by no mean accept what is happening with the Palestinians even though I hate them for crying for saddam, I'd be a hypocrite to not support them, however Israelis have just as much right to have a country and Israel is tiny! ties with Israel will be beneficial and having ties with america is indirect ties with Israel anyway.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 10:09 PM   #4
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kurd123. what's happening between israel-palestine isn't our concern. we have much bigger problems right now in iraq and we don't want to further antagonise and charge the situation by fueling it with talks of israel.

This problem, is not even of secondary importance to iraq, in my view on a scale of priorities for iraq between 0-100, this would be about 98th. and we can well afford to just leave it be for the next 10-15 years. There's absolutely 0 benefit for iraq to recognise israel, and it would just reinvigorate the terrorists in iraq again.

All to lose and nothing to gain.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #5
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kurd123. what's happening between israel-palestine isn't our concern. we have much bigger problems right now in iraq and we don't want to further antagonise and charge the situation by fueling it with talks of israel.

This problem, is not even of secondary importance to iraq. and we can well afford to just leave it be for the next 10-15 years. There's absolutely 0 benefit for iraq to recognise israel, and it would just reinvigorate the terrorists in iraq again.

All to lose and nothing to gain.
I suppose your right, and this takes me back to what has the Islamic world done for us? but this post is just opinion wise, mainly aimed at western Iraqis.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #6
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I also think we should postponed this question for the time being. I might be ready to argue about it after few years! just not now.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #7
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I also think we should postponed this question for the time being. I might be ready to argue about it after few years! just not now.
Just want opinions, don't forget it's not in our hand this is not an Iraqi government meeting
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Old February 12th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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Just came to me today, so I'd like to know what the rest of the Iraqis think. Please vote yes or no with a reason.

I'll start off and my answer is yes Iraq should recognise Israel, what have the rest of the Islamic world done for Iraq? were the Palestinians not the ones that were mourning saddam (may he burn in hell)? This is not to say that I don't support Palestinian rights, off course I do but at the same time I don't support the wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
Yes we should.

Arab nationalism has never and will never work for Iraq, not to mention most of our beloved Arab countries would love nothing more than to see Iraq kept on it's knees.

Though i do agree with Sheytan, this is not our top priority, when the time comes for talks, we should talk then.

In regards to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, it is not our concern and we should not get involved. Let them sort it amongst themselves. The less interference, the quicker the solution.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #9
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no!

have you lost your mind?

they have killed thaused of people

im not racist but the shias are the only people who are fighting against the zonist

shame one you
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #10
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no!

have you lost your mind?

they have killed thaused of people

im not racist but the shias are the only people who are fighting against the zonist

shame one you
You can't base your argument on 'they have killed many people' becuase no other religious group can match up to the things Muslims do to Muslims believe me. However I respect your opinion.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #11
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no!

have you lost your mind?

they have killed thaused of people

im not racist but the shias are the only people who are fighting against the zonist

shame one you
you will find that many countries in the world have killed a lot more people that we still have relations with. Since you're semawetli, you're very well acquainted with the japanese who killed millions of people in asia and never apologised.

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You can't base your argument on 'they have killed many people' becuase no other religious group can match up to the things Muslims do to Muslims believe me. However I respect your opinion.
that's not true. there's absolutely nothing that muslims have done that compare to:
ww2
stalin
chairman mao
pol pot

muslims (and jews) are pussycats by comparison
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:44 AM   #12
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that's not true. there's absolutely nothing that muslims have done that compare to:
ww2
stalin
chairman mao
pol pot

muslims (and jews) are pussycats by comparison
What I meant is Muslims have killed more Muslims than lets say Jews have killed Muslims. And for these Islamic nationalist for ever Muslim that kills a Muslim should equal to a Jew killing 10 Muslims.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #13
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What I meant is Muslims have killed more Muslims than lets say Jews have killed Muslims. And for these Islamic nationalist for ever Muslim that kills a Muslim should equal to a Jew killing 10 Muslims.
But thats not a suprise is it? Since there are much more muslims than jews.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #14
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Why would we recognize a country who want to abuse uss?

I am sure if israel oppens a consulate in Kurdistan, then you will lose your autonomy

i know kurdistan regime has a good relation with israel but its not officlilybut really brohter they dont care about you they onley want to attack our brothers in iran
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #15
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Why would we recognize a country who want to abuse uss?

I am sure if israel oppens a consulate in Kurdistan, then you will lose your autonomy

i know kurdistan regime has a good relation with israel but its not officlilybut really brohter they dont care about you they onley want to attack our brothers in iran
Don't you worry my friend, your brothers in Iran are attacking their brother in Iraq quite too often.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #16
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dont forget the germans :P
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #17
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But thats not a suprise is it? Since there are much more muslims than jews.
So that makes it alright then? there are too many Muslims let's just kill some off, right?
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:56 AM   #18
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what are they attacking?

do you know the mujhadidien?

they have a camp in dyala i think

they are the friend of saddam and they are aganst the iranian regime

the last time i hear that all those car bombs in the last 5 years are by them

do you mean those people ?

those people are whit america and the zonist
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Old February 13th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #19
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what are they attacking?

do you know the mujhadidien?

they have a camp in dyala i think

they are the friend of saddam and they are aganst the iranian regime

the last time i hear that all those car bombs in the last 5 years are by them

do you mean those people ?

those people are whit america and the zonist
No I mean this.

Kurdish anger boiled over with the death a week ago of 14-year-old Basoz Agha, a schoolgirl who was using her summer vacation to visit relatives in the mountain town of Raniya. An Iranian rocket exploded near her as she was making tea at the family's farm, relatives said. The local press has used her story to illustrate the inaction of the regional and central governments in dealing with Iran.



And others like this, and trust me it's 'Muslim Brothers' that kill 'Muslim Brothers' in Iraq not the Jews.
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Old February 13th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #20
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yea i've heared about this storys the last years that they cros the iraqi border or they bomb the north , they say its because if the pkk.
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