PARIS - Arena 92 (32,000) - Page 4

parcdesprinces · March 21st, 2011, 01:17 AM

Indeed.
The land was owned by the Puteaux Municpality, but it's located in the City of Nanterre....That's why many people are mistaken (including the blogger who wrote the article you've quoted, Jericho-79)

BTW, here are some pics of the site/land:

(the tower in the foreground of the last pic was also designed by Portzamparc

)

parcdesprinces · June 4th, 2011, 12:55 AM

Here are some new renders AND a video that I extracted from the EPADESA (Public Establishment for the Development of la Défense-Seine-Arche) e-magazine of April 2011.

:

Location: Paris (Nanterre/La Défense), Ile de France
Name: "Arena 92" (New Stadium)
Tenant: Racing-Métro 92, Rugby (formerly Racing-Club de France)
Capacity: 32,000/35,000 seats (many business seats/skyboxes)
Opening: late 2013
Architects: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €320M (100% Private: Racing-Métro 92/Stadome + naming rights)
Retractable Roof + movable tiers for concert/indoor arena configuration
30,000m² of office spaces + 10,000m² of commercial/entertainment areas inside the stadium
Renewable energy (geothermal heating, photovoltaic cells & solar-thermal panels)
Rainwater collection system

(Euro 2016 ex-candidate Stadium)

New Video

:

-------------

New renderings:

ladefense-seine-arche.fr

parcdesprinces · June 11th, 2011, 02:21 AM

Some new pics of the animated scale model of the Stadium:

------

Bonus (a detailed rendering showing the cladding):

------

+ An older (apparently ??) render of the current project :

(extracted from the PDF file presenting the 27 candidates in race for the Arena 92 architecture contest: debat-arena-nanterre.fr/Jury-Concours-Les-27-Projets Candidats.pdf)

parcdesprinces · June 19th, 2011, 10:46 AM

even more pics of the animated scale model

:

Pics extracted from this video: nanterre.fr/webtv/Expo-Arena-Un Stade Dans la Ville

Lord David · June 19th, 2011, 10:52 AM

A Perfect inclusion to any Olympics bid. Could serve 2 indoor sports at the one venue by dividing it into 2 halls.

Axelferis · June 19th, 2011, 10:56 AM

the entrance is very old school style.

yes for the olympics if someday they start to bid again it would be cool to have it in organization

Lord David · June 19th, 2011, 11:09 AM

Why not? It's a venue that by bid time could be classified as "existing". Even if classified as "proposed" it will be more than capable to be split in 2 "arenas" and avoid the need of building temporary arenas for the likes of Volleyball and Handball. The retractable roof is what effectively seals the deal.

parcdesprinces · June 19th, 2011, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axelferis

the entrance is very old school style.

After the roof, the height, the land and the location..now it's the main entrance....

Nah, just teasing you !

Because actually I agree with you about the main entrance... but let's wait and see, maybe it will look different in reality (even if its desing remains the same as it is today)

bigbossman · June 20th, 2011, 03:50 PM

It seems strange that there are 2 Paris teams in the Top 14 and only 1 in Ligue 1 and 2.

parcdesprinces · June 27th, 2011, 07:11 PM

Soon to be only one (in Top 14)... Happy ???

EDIT: Finally no.. they are still two, at least for the next season !

+

= French sport in general, dear ! (they are the oldest multi-sport clubs in France ...

) !

(The Racing Club de France - aka Racing-Métro 92 for its rugby section - being one of the oldest European multi-sport clubs BTW

)

Andy-i · June 27th, 2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parcdesprinces

Actually, the Saracens (English Aviva Premiership) already play on artificial turf, and the French National Rugby Team centre is also equipped with artificial turf, but no-one complained about that until now

... not to mention that the IRB approves this kind of artificial turfs !

Only the limit of your knowledge apparently

!

Jacky Lorenzetti owns 100% of the Racing-Métro, that's why he wants the club to become independent financially, and actually, it's the first purpose of this new arena which will be 100% owned by the Club and not by Jacky Lorenzetti (according to Lorenzetti himself).

What I meant by "private partners" was the company(ies) which will buy the naming rights + the Club's partners which will rent the office spaces built inside the stadium.

The stadium funding and management are a bit complicated, but here is a short summary:

The Racing Arena company (100% owned by the Racing-Métro) will build, fund and will own the stadium, they'll manage the rugby events/games, they'll rent out the office and commercial spaces, they'll own the restaurants, the Racing Brasserie, the Club-house shop etc, and last but not least, they will sell the naming rights of the stadium.

On the other hand, the Stadôme company (100% owned by Ovalto Investissement: the Lorenzetti's company) will manage the stadium for the concerts and non-rugby events, and will produce these events/concerts.

Here are some details in French about that (extracted from a pdf file published by Stadôme/Ovalto Investissment):

Saracens don't play on artificial turf yet!

They have plans to redevelop Copthall Stadium in Barnet (north London) into a multipurpose 10K stadium with an artificial pitch BUT nothing has been finalised yet and the plans are still in Limbo.

Having told Watford FC that they were leaving Vicarage Road, they found themselves without a ground and had to go back and ask if they could play there this season and have agreed a short term deal.

Unsurprisingly, Watford put their rent up considerably

Axelferis · June 27th, 2011, 08:54 PM

artificial turf

what a joke for rugby!

Where do they go with this?!

Rugby is an excuse . The main reason is about organizing the concerts that bercy can't hold

this is the TRUE story

Anyway it will be a blowing concert hall.

parcdesprinces · June 27th, 2011, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axelferis

artificial turf

what a joke for rugby!

Says the guy, who, obviously, has already played numerous rugby matches......

(but only in front of his TV screen)....

Axelferis · June 28th, 2011, 01:48 PM

Ok why world cup doesn't allow this surface?

parcdesprinces · June 28th, 2011, 02:22 PM

del

bigbossman · June 28th, 2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parcdesprinces

Soon to be only one (in Top 14)... Happy ???

EDIT: Finally no.. they are still two, at least for the next season !

+

= French sport in general, dear ! (they are the oldest multi-sport clubs in France ...

) !

(The Racing Club de France - aka Racing-Métro 92 for its rugby section - being one of the oldest European multi-sport clubs BTW

)

I'm remember asking this of another french guy and he told me that there is one team per city in football, are these clubs being forced to merged?

parcdesprinces · July 9th, 2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbossman

I'm remember asking this of another french guy and he told me that there is one team per city in football, are these clubs being forced to merged?

Indeed, there was a rule about that (initiated by Jules Rimet, one of the most famous former French football leaders, and creator of the FIFA World Cup..that's why the trophy was named after him).. But this rule was unofficial, and only about football teams, not about rugby ones, in order to have good football teams all around the country, and not only in big cities.. the result is the current French football: One team per city, including some very small cities such as Auxerre, Sochaux/Montbéliard etc

kerouac1848 · July 12th, 2011, 11:25 AM

Seems like a classic example of, on first thoughts, logical thinking, but which when looked into is deeply flawed.

daniel_hermès · July 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM

Why did they decide to do it so small?

just 32.000 people?

My heart beats for Paris

Axelferis · July 31st, 2011, 09:56 PM

32 000 is enough for a rugby club. it's not football.

It is could consider as gigantic because the most of french rugby club haven't this type of infrastructures. Even french football medium new stadium are around 25000 seats.

it is a great thing for rugby to have an indoor arena.

March 21st, 2011, 01:17 AM	#61
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	Indeed. The land was owned by the Puteaux Municpality, but it's located in the City of Nanterre....That's why many people are mistaken (including the blogger who wrote the article you've quoted, Jericho-79) BTW, here are some pics of the site/land: (the tower in the foreground of the last pic was also designed by Portzamparc ) Last edited by parcdesprinces; March 21st, 2011 at 02:15 AM.

June 11th, 2011, 02:21 AM	#63
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	Some new pics of the animated scale model of the Stadium: ------ Bonus (a detailed rendering showing the cladding): ------ + An older (apparently ??) render of the current project : (extracted from the PDF file presenting the 27 candidates in race for the Arena 92 architecture contest: debat-arena-nanterre.fr/Jury-Concours-Les-27-Projets Candidats.pdf) Last edited by parcdesprinces; June 12th, 2011 at 08:21 AM.

June 19th, 2011, 10:52 AM	#65
Lord David Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,358 Likes (Received): 11	A Perfect inclusion to any Olympics bid. Could serve 2 indoor sports at the one venue by dividing it into 2 halls. __________________ http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...acidBanner.gif

June 19th, 2011, 10:56 AM	#66
Axelferis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A space between two worlds Posts: 7,959 Likes (Received): 223	the entrance is very old school style. yes for the olympics if someday they start to bid again it would be cool to have it in organization __________________ Galliani(milan ac director) warned, “Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006. Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us.”

June 19th, 2011, 11:09 AM	#67
Lord David Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,358 Likes (Received): 11	Why not? It's a venue that by bid time could be classified as "existing". Even if classified as "proposed" it will be more than capable to be split in 2 "arenas" and avoid the need of building temporary arenas for the likes of Volleyball and Handball. The retractable roof is what effectively seals the deal. __________________ http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...acidBanner.gif

June 4th, 2011, 12:55 AM	#62
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	Here are some new renders AND a video that I extracted from the EPADESA (Public Establishment for the Development of la Défense-Seine-Arche) e-magazine of April 2011. : Location: Paris (Nanterre/La Défense), Ile de France Name: "Arena 92" (New Stadium) Tenant: Racing-Métro 92, Rugby (formerly Racing-Club de France) Capacity: 32,000/35,000 seats (many business seats/skyboxes) Opening: late 2013 Architects: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc, jointly with Vinci (construction) Cost: €320M (100% Private: Racing-Métro 92/Stadome + naming rights) Retractable Roof + movable tiers for concert/indoor arena configuration 30,000m² of office spaces + 10,000m² of commercial/entertainment areas inside the stadium Renewable energy (geothermal heating, photovoltaic cells & solar-thermal panels) Rainwater collection system (Euro 2016 ex-candidate Stadium) New Video : ------------- New renderings: ladefense-seine-arche.fr

June 19th, 2011, 10:46 AM	#64
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	even more pics of the animated scale model : Pics extracted from this video: nanterre.fr/webtv/Expo-Arena-Un Stade Dans la Ville

June 20th, 2011, 03:50 PM	#69
bigbossman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South East London Posts: 3,418 Likes (Received): 0	It seems strange that there are 2 Paris teams in the Top 14 and only 1 in Ligue 1 and 2.

June 27th, 2011, 07:11 PM	#70
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	Soon to be only one (in Top 14)... Happy ??? EDIT: Finally no.. they are still two, at least for the next season ! + = French sport in general, dear ! (they are the oldest multi-sport clubs in France ... ) ! (The Racing Club de France - aka Racing-Métro 92 for its rugby section - being one of the oldest European multi-sport clubs BTW ) Last edited by parcdesprinces; June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 AM.

June 27th, 2011, 08:54 PM	#72
Axelferis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A space between two worlds Posts: 7,959 Likes (Received): 223	artificial turf what a joke for rugby! Where do they go with this?! Rugby is an excuse . The main reason is about organizing the concerts that bercy can't hold this is the TRUE story Anyway it will be a blowing concert hall. __________________ Galliani(milan ac director) warned, “Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006. Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us.”

June 28th, 2011, 01:48 PM	#74
Axelferis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A space between two worlds Posts: 7,959 Likes (Received): 223	Ok why world cup doesn't allow this surface? __________________ Galliani(milan ac director) warned, “Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006. Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us.”

June 28th, 2011, 02:22 PM	#75
parcdesprinces Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auteuil \| 82 \| Monaco Posts: 7,388 Likes (Received): 449	del Last edited by parcdesprinces; June 29th, 2011 at 09:31 AM.

July 12th, 2011, 11:25 AM	#78
kerouac1848 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NW London Posts: 2,256 Likes (Received): 68	Seems like a classic example of, on first thoughts, logical thinking, but which when looked into is deeply flawed.

July 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM	#79
daniel_hermès BANNED Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Palmas de Gran Canaria Posts: 69 Likes (Received): 0	Why did they decide to do it so small? just 32.000 people? My heart beats for Paris

July 31st, 2011, 09:56 PM	#80
Axelferis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A space between two worlds Posts: 7,959 Likes (Received): 223	32 000 is enough for a rugby club. it's not football. It is could consider as gigantic because the most of french rugby club haven't this type of infrastructures. Even french football medium new stadium are around 25000 seats. it is a great thing for rugby to have an indoor arena. __________________ Galliani(milan ac director) warned, “Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006. Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us.”

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