271 Front St E & 25 Berkeley St | Proposed | 57 st, 20 st | 187 m, 70 m | St Lawrence

Travis007 · February 13th, 2011, 04:39 PM

271 FRONT ST E
OPA / Rezoning 11 120601 STE 28 OZ Ward 28
- Tor & E.York Feb 4, 2011 Application Submitted Feb 4, 2011 Commercial 2,415 65,019 67,434 702 5,940 --- --- ---
Rezoning application for New Mixed use buildings - 57 Stories.Comprised of 2 residential towers (57 and 20 stories) In conjunction with a 6 storey podium, - 702 Residential units - 5 levels of underground parking. 540 Parking spaces. - Retail at grade

***Taller, Better*** · February 13th, 2011, 05:36 PM

57 storeys!

the pace of development in this town is staggering!!

Leviathan · February 13th, 2011, 06:10 PM

Wow, that building would really stand out in that area.

***Elkhanan1*** · February 13th, 2011, 06:25 PM

The city will never allow a 57-storey building in this area.

Leviathan · February 13th, 2011, 07:00 PM

Makes me wonder why they go through the effort of trying to get a building there if they know it will get declined. Just seems like a waste of time...is there any method to their madness?

MattToronto · February 13th, 2011, 08:47 PM

$$$$

Diesel_Power · February 13th, 2011, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviathan

Makes me wonder why they go through the effort of trying to get a building there if they know it will get declined. Just seems like a waste of time...is there any method to their madness?

testing the waters.

sammo · February 13th, 2011, 11:58 PM

WOW! -again!
tactic: ask for 57 and 'settle' for 50 or 40... (?)
However, i think this is a perfectly appropriate area for such a tall tower -stretching the skyline east toward the underdeveloped, underutilized, underexploited sleepy Distillery district. On what grounds should this proposal be denied or scaled down anyway? There are already 35-40 storey towers proposed/rising in the area (Clear/Pure Spirit, etc.).

AndrewJM3D · February 14th, 2011, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elkhanan1

The city will never allow a 57-storey building in this area.

It's only a few blocks away from the Distillery. This area is mostly loft and business spaces so it may have less resistance then you think. I for one would love to see our skyline expand to the east like it has on the west.

Leviathan · February 14th, 2011, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

It's only a few blocks away from the Distillery. This area is mostly loft and business spaces so it may have less resistance then you think. I for one would love to see our skyline expand to the east like it has on the west.

Agreed. If they can get the ball rolling in this area it would be very exciting to watch.

AndrewJM3D · February 14th, 2011, 01:28 AM

It could be like the Entertainment District.

MattToronto · February 14th, 2011, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

It could be like the Entertainment District.

It's definitely what the area needs, along with the removal of Staples. Right now it's really got nothing too fantastic surrounding it. St. Lawrence connecting more smoothly to the Distillery would be fantastic.

OEincorparated · February 15th, 2011, 07:17 AM

This building should be approved so long as the market dictates it. It could mean some delay or changes to the East Bay Front developement if this area goes tall thouigh.

Travis007 · February 15th, 2011, 05:11 PM

The replacement of the big-box stores and car dealerships with urban buildings in this area will do miracles connecting the Distillery with the rest of downtown Toronto.

vancouverite/to'er · February 22nd, 2011, 07:38 AM

I'd love to see somthing along the lines of the Alsop proposal here. Hanging gardens would be cool!!

***Taller, Better*** · February 22nd, 2011, 06:37 PM

I think it is time for Alsop to leave behind his trademark War of the World legs and move on to something else.

jje10001 · February 22nd, 2011, 06:57 PM

This is actually the site for the First Parliament Buildings in Canada, I believe. There was a proposal for a cultural center on this site, and the city was bargaining for the site.

This is simply a blatant attempt by the property owner to get more money from the city.

Mollywood · February 22nd, 2011, 08:06 PM

Yeah, do you guys not realize this is not a serious proposal? lol

The owner of the car lot was asking for a crazy price from the city, knowing it's historical importance and the intention of the city. He had no plans to do anything with the site. Now, all of a sudden, when the city refuses to give in to his demands, he plans a 50+ tower, on a historic site? lol He knows there is no way any government would approve that, he's just trying to use it as a bargining tool. There is no way in hell that's going to happen. He doesn't even have financing for the tower.

Eventually there will be some kind of compromise and the city will get the lot for a public square, library and some kind of small museum for the First Parliament of Upper Canada and the War Of 1821.

I think the city should just expropriate the land. I'd love to see a great public square with a serious monument, along with some public use building. (Museum) It's a perfect location for a public gathering/tourist site. The St. Lawrence Library will also be moved to this site.

The city already owns the west side of this lot. (where the car dealership was) The big bonus will be the redevelopment of Staples. It's ugly as hell and so wrong for that area. I'll bet it's days are numbered.

Ain't no 57 floor tower going up on this historic site.

***Taller, Better*** · February 22nd, 2011, 08:51 PM

A piece of land that housed our first parliament buildings, is not in itself of much historical importance. If the original building is completely gone, then it remains just a piece of land.

monkeyronin · February 24th, 2011, 09:24 PM

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February 13th, 2011, 04:39 PM	#1
Travis007 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,851 Likes (Received): 2	271 Front St E & 25 Berkeley St \| Proposed \| 57 st, 20 st \| 187 m, 70 m \| St Lawrence 271 FRONT ST E OPA / Rezoning 11 120601 STE 28 OZ Ward 28 - Tor & E.York Feb 4, 2011 Application Submitted Feb 4, 2011 Commercial 2,415 65,019 67,434 702 5,940 --- --- --- Rezoning application for New Mixed use buildings - 57 Stories.Comprised of 2 residential towers (57 and 20 stories) In conjunction with a 6 storey podium, - 702 Residential units - 5 levels of underground parking. 540 Parking spaces. - Retail at grade

February 13th, 2011, 05:36 PM	#2
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,813 Likes (Received): 302	57 storeys! the pace of development in this town is staggering!! __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

February 13th, 2011, 06:25 PM	#4
*Elkhanan1* Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto/São Paulo Posts: 4,365 Likes (Received): 4	The city will never allow a 57-storey building in this area. __________________ "I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it." — Mae West

February 13th, 2011, 08:47 PM	#6
MattToronto Less is More Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,807 Likes (Received): 0	$$$$ __________________ Industrial Designer with a love of Architecture.

February 13th, 2011, 11:58 PM	#8
sammo Moderatee Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: toronTo Posts: 1,087 Likes (Received): 0	WOW! -again! tactic: ask for 57 and 'settle' for 50 or 40... (?) However, i think this is a perfectly appropriate area for such a tall tower -stretching the skyline east toward the underdeveloped, underutilized, underexploited sleepy Distillery district. On what grounds should this proposal be denied or scaled down anyway? There are already 35-40 storey towers proposed/rising in the area (Clear/Pure Spirit, etc.). __________________ no longer accepting US currency

February 13th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#3
Leviathan Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 161 Likes (Received): 0	Wow, that building would really stand out in that area.

February 13th, 2011, 07:00 PM	#5
Leviathan Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 161 Likes (Received): 0	Makes me wonder why they go through the effort of trying to get a building there if they know it will get declined. Just seems like a waste of time...is there any method to their madness?

February 14th, 2011, 01:28 AM	#11
AndrewJM3D Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,014 Likes (Received): 14	It could be like the Entertainment District. __________________ Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’

February 15th, 2011, 07:17 AM	#13
OEincorparated Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,995 Likes (Received): 4	This building should be approved so long as the market dictates it. It could mean some delay or changes to the East Bay Front developement if this area goes tall thouigh.

February 15th, 2011, 05:11 PM	#14
Travis007 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,851 Likes (Received): 2	The replacement of the big-box stores and car dealerships with urban buildings in this area will do miracles connecting the Distillery with the rest of downtown Toronto.

February 22nd, 2011, 07:38 AM	#15
vancouverite/to'er Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,007 Likes (Received): 0	I'd love to see somthing along the lines of the Alsop proposal here. Hanging gardens would be cool!!

February 22nd, 2011, 06:37 PM	#16
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,813 Likes (Received): 302	I think it is time for Alsop to leave behind his trademark War of the World legs and move on to something else. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

February 22nd, 2011, 06:57 PM	#17
jje10001 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 319 Likes (Received): 0	This is actually the site for the First Parliament Buildings in Canada, I believe. There was a proposal for a cultural center on this site, and the city was bargaining for the site. This is simply a blatant attempt by the property owner to get more money from the city.

February 22nd, 2011, 08:06 PM	#18
Mollywood Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,026 Likes (Received): 14	Yeah, do you guys not realize this is not a serious proposal? lol The owner of the car lot was asking for a crazy price from the city, knowing it's historical importance and the intention of the city. He had no plans to do anything with the site. Now, all of a sudden, when the city refuses to give in to his demands, he plans a 50+ tower, on a historic site? lol He knows there is no way any government would approve that, he's just trying to use it as a bargining tool. There is no way in hell that's going to happen. He doesn't even have financing for the tower. Eventually there will be some kind of compromise and the city will get the lot for a public square, library and some kind of small museum for the First Parliament of Upper Canada and the War Of 1821. I think the city should just expropriate the land. I'd love to see a great public square with a serious monument, along with some public use building. (Museum) It's a perfect location for a public gathering/tourist site. The St. Lawrence Library will also be moved to this site. The city already owns the west side of this lot. (where the car dealership was) The big bonus will be the redevelopment of Staples. It's ugly as hell and so wrong for that area. I'll bet it's days are numbered. Ain't no 57 floor tower going up on this historic site. Last edited by Mollywood; February 22nd, 2011 at 08:18 PM.

February 22nd, 2011, 08:51 PM	#19
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,813 Likes (Received): 302	A piece of land that housed our first parliament buildings, is not in itself of much historical importance. If the original building is completely gone, then it remains just a piece of land. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

February 24th, 2011, 09:24 PM	#20
monkeyronin Mơמkƹ͛ƴ∆ґơɲiɲ Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 4,463 Likes (Received): 44	Rendering: Taken by Ed007Toronto on UT

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