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Old June 25th, 2005, 09:42 PM   #1
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Boeing 747 Advanced news/information

soon, boeing cuold make the 747-adv. for the future of the 747 line.
how is this plane and how looks this. is this a good rival to the A380 or not?

Post here news and info about the 747-adv.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 09:47 PM   #2
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check this site: http://www.boeing.com/randy/

here a picture of the boeing 747A and 747AF(Freighter version, above)

it looks very good!
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Old June 25th, 2005, 09:48 PM   #3
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The 747 Advanced passenger version: “stretched” in two bands for a total extension of 11.7 feet.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 09:53 PM   #4
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further information and changes. new changed things of the 747A
The Engines: the GEnx (the same as used by the 787)
Range: 8,000NM
Total Stretch: 11.7FT(passenger version) - 17.3FT(Freighter version)
Speed: 0.86M
Changed Wingtips
Seats: 450 (339 ec, 87 Biss, 24 First)
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Old June 25th, 2005, 11:19 PM   #5
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Old June 25th, 2005, 11:27 PM   #6
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Those renders look very good, veeeeery good.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:17 AM   #7
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check this site: http://www.boeing.com/randy/

here a picture of the boeing 747A and 747AF(Freighter version, above)

it looks very good!
looks great!!!!!!!!!
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:37 PM   #8
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This thread is nothing but speculation, and weak at that.

You should've waited till Boeing announced whether to do this or shut down the 747 line.
and randy gives the information......
a man with an good job by boeing....

the are going announcing the plane over a couple of months...

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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:38 PM   #9
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i love the engines!!!
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:45 PM   #10
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look at this picture:


and this one:
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:48 PM   #11
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Specifications relative to A380 are in the following table:


the boeing 747A, what do you think?
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Old June 26th, 2005, 03:33 PM   #12
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why is the wing of the A380 so much bigger than the one of the Adv. ?

I mean, the wing area compared to the total weight indicates that the A380 can be stretched far more than just what is proposed in the A380-900 verision- no?
(max takeoff weight A380 about +25%, wingarea A380 about +45 % )

Back to topic: I always thought the A380 means the death for the 747- now I´m really looking forward to see the Adv. in the air.
Although it might mean that we will never see a BA A380
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Old June 26th, 2005, 03:58 PM   #13
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because it hase more air resistance, because it is a bigger aircraft than the boeing 747.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:56 PM   #14
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^The wing is that bigger simply because it's prepared for a streched version.
When they build the 380-900, the wing will be the same.
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Old June 27th, 2005, 06:09 PM   #15
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It's not that I hate this aircraft, but I think it's a mistake by Boeing if they launch it.

It's a derivative of their current 747, which hasn't sold a passenger version in years. I think this is EXACTLY like the A350 mess Airbus originally made, where they tried to match a derivative against a brand new Boeing aircraft, and it failed miserably. Only when they promised to make it virtually all-new did it sell. And Boeing isn't in the position to fund an all-new jumbo jet project to compete against the A380.

I think Boeing's doing great with their 737, 777 and 787, which are all selling like mad!

They just need to focus on those three for now, and once they can get themselves on a roll for a few years, then think about introducing a new plane.
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Boeing Decides In Principle To Build 747 Advanced Aircraft

AFX News Limited
July 1, 2005


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-- Boeing Corp's executive board on Monday decided in principle to go ahead with the construction of its 747 Advanced jumbojet as a rival to Airbus Industrie's A380 superjumbo, German daily Financial Times Deutschland reported, citing no sources.

The newspaper said Boeing will start building the planes as soon as two renowned clients have signed up for the aircraft.

According to the newspaper, Boeing CEO James McNerney said during a telephone conference yesterday that Airbus will go ahead with its 747 Advanced plans if there is sufficient customer demand, although he did not provide any details.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 07:26 PM   #17
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So which "two renowned" airlines do you think will sign up for this?

My guess is Cathay Pacific and British Airways. CX appears to want to get rid of Airbus badly, and BA has always been a loyal client of Boeing.

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I don't know about BA, but i also think that CX is one of them.
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my guess is BA too, but why do you think Cathay Pacific, Cheese mmm?
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Old July 5th, 2005, 08:28 PM   #20
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I think I remember reading somewhere about Cathay "holding out" for the 747Adv before it would consider the A380 as a replacement. Something tells me CX wants to progress towards fleet commonality, and they seem to like Boeing a lot more than Airbus. CX could phase out its A340s and A330s with 777s and 787s, while getting rid of their 747-400s (or converting them to cargos) with the 747Adv.

I thought Airbus already talked with Cathay about the A380 and they rejected it.
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