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Old October 7th, 2016, 06:52 PM   #2481
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Per KarelXWB, it appears that there is a new customer for the 747-8F. Intrepid Aviation is leasing two frames and placing them long term with one of their customers that already operate the type.

Press Release Here

Also, according to 747classic, the two customers that they have that currently operate the 747F are Asiana and EVA Air.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 10:51 PM   #2482
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L/N 1536, VP-BBL delivery flight with call sign ABW101 towards Seattle Intl (KSEA), see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...910Z/KPAE/KSEA

Aircraft was officially delivered (leased) at September 27.

Aircraft data : L/N 1536 - 747-87UF, RC652, serial number 63378, VP-BBL, lessor Boeing Capital, leased to AirBridgeCargo LLC , full livery , roll out July 18 2016, F/F September 02, Delivered September 27 2016, Delivery flight (ABW101-KSEA) date October 07 2016.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 09:57 AM   #2483
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Since October 05 (Revision 58 of the Type Certificate A20WE) the Boeing customer code is not mentioned anymore from all 747-8 aircraft after L/N1533.

Boeing decided that 747-8 aircraft after L/N 1533 will now be produced /delivered without Boeing Customer Code, like the B787 and B737max ( to avoid speculations of order cancellations and/or customer switches ???? )

For 747-8, see page 57/75 : http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...20WE_Rev58.pdf

For 747-8F, scrol back to page 36/75 of the same document.

At this page both in September delivered aircraft are already listed as a 747-8F :

- L/N 1534 (c/n 38706) for Cargolux is now listed as 747-8F and not as 747-8R7F
- L/N 1536 (c/n 63378), leased to ABC is now listed as a 747-8F i.s.o. 747-87UF
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Old October 11th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #2484
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LN1271 VP-BCI for Sky Gates Airlines (formerly B-HUO Cathay Pacific Cargo)

Sky Gates Airlines Boeing B747-4F VP-BCI by SjPhotoworld, on Flickr


VP-BCI Sky Gates Airlines Boeing 747-467F, Maastricht Aachen Airport - EHBK/MST by Björn van der Velpen, on Flickr

a/c data source: https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...Gates-Airlines
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Old October 11th, 2016, 06:15 PM   #2485
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Beautiful livery !
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Old October 12th, 2016, 08:28 AM   #2486
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Typical over-designed Russian airline livery.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 12:14 PM   #2487
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Do 747-8i get any order ?

I think the time of this plane is over.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #2488
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Typical over-designed Russian airline livery.
I'd rather have an "over-designed Russian airline livery" than a no brand tortilla chip Eurowhite livery.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 04:00 AM   #2489
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Only three 747-300 operators left.

Saudia Royal Flight
Max Air
Aquillene International Cargo
Trans Avia Export have taken up the Aquilene one.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 11:14 AM   #2490
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Follow me. All this cost per mile stuff is computer generated rubbish. Its like motor manufacturers and their "MPG" figures on cars. If you read the small print it tends to say that the figures quoted are gained in strict laboratory conditions and may not represent every day use.
It's about bums on seats and how much the airlines can sell the seats for. Obviously I know it's more technical than that and I have no doubt that the airliners cannot achieve the figures stated however I doubt we will ever see real life figures from any manufacturers advertised anywhere.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #2491
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Follow me. All this cost per mile stuff is computer generated rubbish. Its like motor manufacturers and their "MPG" figures on cars. If you read the small print it tends to say that the figures quoted are gained in strict laboratory conditions and may not represent every day use.
It's about bums on seats and how much the airlines can sell the seats for. Obviously I know it's more technical than that and I have no doubt that the airliners cannot achieve the figures stated however I doubt we will ever see real life figures from any manufacturers advertised anywhere.
Yes, I trust the opinions of a random person on a message board over what the aircraft manufacturers and operators say.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 09:56 PM   #2492
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New operator South Airlines, Armenia with two 747-200F.
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Old October 14th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #2493
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N895BA Boeing Capital LN1523 is currently on its way to Lackland AFB. Caught it departing in a windstorm and heavy rain this morning.

N895BA Boeing Capital (Transaero NTU) Boeing 747-8 - C/N 42417 / LN 1523 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

N895BA Boeing Capital (Transaero NTU) Boeing 747-8 - C/N 42417 / LN 1523 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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Old October 14th, 2016, 08:30 PM   #2494
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Also, LN1459 RC006 V8-BKH was finally delivered to final customer - Brunei Government. During stop in YVR on delivery flight:

BruneiSultan'sFlight_V8-BKH_b by Bill Wong, on Flickr
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Old October 15th, 2016, 10:47 AM   #2495
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Follow me. All this cost per mile stuff is computer generated rubbish. Its like motor manufacturers and their "MPG" figures on cars. If you read the small print it tends to say that the figures quoted are gained in strict laboratory conditions and may not represent every day use.
It's about bums on seats and how much the airlines can sell the seats for. Obviously I know it's more technical than that and I have no doubt that the airliners cannot achieve the figures stated however I doubt we will ever see real life figures from any manufacturers advertised anywhere.
Several years ago, LH published their seat mile cost by aircraft type.
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Old October 15th, 2016, 11:31 AM   #2496
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N895BA Boeing Capital LN1523 is currently on its way to Lackland AFB.
What for?
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Old October 15th, 2016, 01:39 PM   #2497
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AFAIK both Transaero NTU 747-8's will be stored at Lackland AFB, San Antonio for better storage conditions and to free (more expensive) parking space at Everett.

Located at Lackland is also Boeing's Company’s Global Services & Support (GS&S) San Antonio business unit.

This Boeing facility, mostly involved with military aircraft, has also 747-8 experience. The unit performed change incorporation at 747-8F test aircraft, starting in 2011.

After all legal procedures have been finished (ownership and sale-export to Iran) and all required (spare) parts are available, all the required work can be performed at Lackland AFB, San Antonio
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Old October 15th, 2016, 08:33 PM   #2498
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Thank you!
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Old October 17th, 2016, 03:36 PM   #2499
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Some interesting first pictures of L/N 1538, KAL #9 and L/N 1539, KAL #10 in early assembly stage appeared on Flickr.
All were made during the Boeing Media Day at June 20 2016

L/N 1538, Vertical stabilizer plus rudder


L/N 1539, section 41 (nose)


All Original uploaded by Jon Ostrower (flightblogger), for more 747-8 pictures see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/page2
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AFAIK both Transaero NTU 747-8's will be stored at Lackland AFB, San Antonio for better storage conditions and to free (more expensive) parking space at Everett.

Located at Lackland is also Boeing's Company’s Global Services & Support (GS&S) San Antonio business unit.

This Boeing facility, mostly involved with military aircraft, has also 747-8 experience. The unit performed change incorporation at 747-8F test aircraft, starting in 2011.

After all legal procedures have been finished (ownership and sale-export to Iran) and all required (spare) parts are available, all the required work can be performed at Lackland AFB, San Antonio
Kind of strange considering the aircraft are going to Iran, I wonder what they think of it, spyware to be added?
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