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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:35 AM   #2541
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Old November 15th, 2016, 11:04 AM   #2542
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L/N 1519, N894BA, Transaero NTU is scheduled for a ferry flight towards Lackland AFB ( Kelly Field annex - KSKF) at November 15.

See Matt Cawby's twitter : http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/798408905432989696

Aircraft data : L/N 1519 - 747-85M , RC076, serial number 42416, Transaero Airlines #1 NTU, EI-MOW, N894BA, owner : Boeing Company, white livery, KPAE , roll-out May 12 2015, F/F November 02 2016

Flightplan has been filed : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...010Z/KPAE/KSKF
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Old November 16th, 2016, 02:16 PM   #2543
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L/N 1519, N894BA, Transaero NTU is scheduled for a ferry flight towards Lackland AFB ( Kelly Field annex - KSKF) at November 15.

See Matt Cawby's twitter : http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/798408905432989696

Aircraft data : L/N 1519 - 747-85M , RC076, serial number 42416, Transaero Airlines #1 NTU, EI-MOW, N894BA, owner : Boeing Company, white livery, KPAE , roll-out May 12 2015, F/F November 02 2016

Flightplan has been filed : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...010Z/KPAE/KSKF
They delayed the flight until today
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Old November 16th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #2544
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VQ-BBM Silk Way West Cargo LN1533 returned from painting.

VQ-BBM Silk Way West Airlines Boeing 747-83QF - C/N 62708 / LN 1533 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

HL7639 KAL Cargo LN1528 - On the flight line undergoing the process of removing from storage.

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LN1538 for KAL (HL7643) rolled out of FAL a week ago and is now in storage on RWY 11/29 and LN1537 (HL7642) is in storage at the tower ramp.

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Old November 30th, 2016, 04:13 AM   #2546
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I Know, Can people here post info on who is ending 747 operations as well, hardly any posts on that.
Mahan Air have stopped flying their 743s, while 744s remain stored two all white, one still in Ghana's Smile Air livery after the lease deal flopped, and Iran Air are left with just a single 742F, the last 74S and 742M gone.
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Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (December 01 - 2016)
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Updates from previous listing (November 01 - 2016) :

- Firing Order sequence change : L/N 1543-RC531, L/N 1544-RC532
- Added to Firing order : NIL
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N 1538-RC059
- First (B1) Flight : L/N 1533-RC644, L/N 1519 - RC076
- Delivered : NIL
- Ferried into storage : L/N 1519- RC076 (KSKF)
- Ferried out of storage : NIL

Boeing is up to now producing 747-8’s at a rate of 0,5 per month, a planned return to one per month in 2019 has been cancelled.

- 747-8 production has been very slow, no more roll-outs are expected before 2017.
- FAL slant positions #1 and #2 are also used for travelled work (mostly 767 or KC46A aircraft.
- L/N 1539 has just been moved to slant position #2, The final body join position is empty. Wing/body join assembly for L/N 1540 is proceeding slowly.
- Two 747-8 aircraft are scheduled for delivery in December : L/N 1533 and L/N 1528
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119 Completed airframes , Delivered 109 (marked : @ ), Delivered 2011 (9), 2012 (31), 2013 (24), 2014 (19), 2015 (18), 2016 (8)
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Indicated are :
- Not delivered (or stored) aircraft
- Aircraft delivered last 3 months (marked #)
- Two already delivered, but not active VIP aircraft are indicated and marked @.
- One Air China passenger aircraft was redelivered in October after VIP conversion at Lufthansa Technik, marked $
- All 747-8 aircraft after L/N 1533 are not indicated anymore at the FAA 747 Type Certificate with a Boeing customer code, only 2 subvariants are used : 747-8 and 748F. The boeing customer code after L/N 1533 are still indicated between ()

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1 (NTU), selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, D-ABYE( NTU), Scheduled LH delivery date was September-30-2012 , Resumed additional flight testing (tail tank, GEnx-2B PIP, NGFMS updates) at May 20 2013, flight testing out of San Bernadino (KBSD) from May 26, returned to Moses Lake at June 18 for additional low altitude tests, from June 28 at Inca Manco Cápac Intl. airport Peru (JUL/SPJL) for high altitude airport tests, returned to Moses Lake via Houston at July 10, latest flight tests are flown from Boeing Field and Moses Lake, Refurbishment to production standard at KPAE completed. Re-registered at December 12 2014 : N828BA. Flown to Marana (KMZJ) for storage at May 21 2015. Rumours are that the aircraft will be used for testing of several of the new Airforce One specially designed sub-systems.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, (ordered and assembled to become Atlas Air #3, white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, operator airplane number 852, aircraft NTU, re-registered N770BA at Jan 22-2013, selcal code DJ-KM, F/F April 15 2013, Used for (FAA)test flights (FMS software update verification flights?) from September 19 till/incl. November 21, Ferried to Boeing Field (KBFI) at November 22, Returned to KPAE at December 20. Emerged from the 45-05 paint hangar with a special “ Seattle Seahawks “livery at January 29 2014. The Seattle Seahawks logos are removed in May 2014. Ferried to Victorville (KVCV) at July 01 2014 for “engine work”. Returned to Paine Field at September 10 2014. Ferried to Marana (KMZJ) at November 12 2014.

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Crown Prince Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Saudi Arabian Government ), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Delivery date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, Utah (Corporation). Was stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Ferry flight (N458BJ- KSKF-LFSB) to Basel -Mulhouse at December 28-2012. Aircraft for sale by Atlas Aviation Sales & Leasing LLC (Florida), see : http://www.atlasaviations.com/2012_747-800_NEW.php

@ L/N 1466 - 747-8H0, RC007, serial number 39749, Royal Flight Oman, test registration N5511V, future registration A4O-HMS, selcal code FR-AD, white livery, FAL roll-out October 07-2012, F/F November-16-2012, Delivery date December 10-2012 . Delivery flight (A4OHMS- CYVR- KCNW) date : December 12-2012. Cabin outfitting by L3 Platform Integration at Waco, TX, Aircraft modification is delayed by up to 10 months following identification of quality problems. Expected delivery end of 2016.

L/N 1495 - 747-8Z5, RC009, serial number 37501, ordered for the UAE Presidential Flight, Boeing operator identification code : ABD , N974BA, future registration A6-PFB , white livery, roll out date January 21 2014, F/F February 19 2014, Ferried to Pinal Airpark (KMZJ) at March 12 2014, order seems to be cancelled in September 2016.

$ L/N 1510 - 747-89L, RC069, serial number 41193, B-2479, Air China #4, full livery, roll out date November 04 2014, F/F November 26 2014, Delivery date December 29 2014, delivery flight (CCA79-ZBAA) date 30 December 2014. Ferried to Lufthansa Technik Hamburg for VIP modification (Chinese “ Air Force One”) at May 24 2015. Re-delivery flight (CCA88 EDDH-ZBAA) October 07 2016.

L/N 1519 - 747-85M , RC076, serial number 42416, Transaero Airlines #1 NTU, EI-MOW, N894BA, owner : Boeing Company, white livery, roll-out May 12 2015, F/F November 02 2016, Ferried to Lackland AFB (KSKF) at November 16 2016..

L/N 1523 - 747-85M, RC077, serial number 42417, Transaero Airlines #2 NTU, EI-TSO, N895BA, owner : Boeing Company, white livery, roll-out August ?? 2015, F/F July 08 2016. Ferried to Boeing Field (KBFI) at July 12 to join the Boeing 100th anniversary, returned to Paine Field at July 18. Ferried to Lackland AFB (KSKF) at October 14 2016.

L/N 1528 - 747-8B5F, RC661, serial number 37653, KAL Cargo #7, N6018N, HL7639, KPAE flight line, full livery, roll out without engines at December 11 2015, rolled back at FAL slant position #1 at June 14, re-emerged with engines installed at June 30, F/F July 15 2016, ferried to Portland (PDX) for paint at July 17, returned at July 27, Scheduled delivery : December 2016.

L/N 1533 - 747-83QF, RC644, serial number 62709, test registration N55077, Silkway West Airlines #5, full livery, roll-out April 14 2016. Rolled back at slant position #1 at April 25 for travelled work. Rolled out for the second time at May 08. F/F November 02 2016, Ferried to KPDX for paint at November 04, returned November 15, Scheduled Delivery December 01 2016

# L/N 1534 - 747-8(R7)F, RC514, serial number 38076, Cargolux #14, test registration N5016R, LX-VCN, full livery, roll-out May 15/16 2016 without engines, engines are installed at building 40-22 at the last week of of August 2016, F/F September 07 2016, ferried to Victorville for paint by Leading Edge Aviation at September 10 , returned at September 20 , Delivery and delivery flight (CLX789-KLAX-EGPK-ELLX)date September 29 2016,

L/N 1535 - 747-8(7U)F, RC651, serial number 63199, The Boeing Company, test registration N1785B, KPAE, unpainted with white rudders, roll-out without engines at June 14 2016, second roll-out October 25 2016 after engine installation

# L/N 1536 - 747-8(7U)F, RC652, serial number 63378, VP-BBL, lessor Boeing Capital, leased to AirBridgeCargo LLC , full livery , roll out July 18 2016, F/F September 02, Delivered September 27 2016, Delivery flight (ABW101-KSEA) date October 07 2016.

L/N 1537 - 747-8(B5), RC058, serial number 60409, KAL (intercontinental) #8,HL7642, unpainted with light blue rudders, no engines, stored KPAE, roll out September 20 2016, estimated delivery date April 21 2017.

L/N 1538 - 747-8(B5), RC059, serial number 60410, KAL (intercontinental) #9, HL7643, unpainted with light blue rudders, no engines, stored KPAE roll out November 22? 2016, estimated delivery date May 19 2017
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At this moment : two (2) 747-8 airframes at Final Assembly Line (FAL), Everett building 40-22
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Slant position #1 , used for travelled work at B767’s.
Slant position #2, L/N 1539 - 747-8(B5), RC060, serial number 60411, KAL (intercontinental) #10, estimated delivery date July 03 2017
Final body join position, empty
Wing/body join position, L/N 1540 - 747-8(HV)F, RC606, serial number 63659, AirBridgeCargo, VP-BBP, estimated delivery date March 21 2017.

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Firing order : 4 Airframes , scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
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L/N 1541 - 747-8(HV)F, RC607, serial number 63781, AirBridgeCargo, estimated delivery date September 01 2017
L/N 1542 - 747-8(HV)F, RC608, serial number 63784, AirBridgeCargo, estimated delivery date December 21 2017.
L/N 1543 - 747-8(4A)F, RC531, UPS, delivery 2017
L/N 1544 - 747-8(4A)F, RC532, UPS, delivery 2017.

? = Not confirmed , only one source.
XX = Boeing customer code not yet identified.

I will try to publish the following updates on the first of each month to stay synchronized with the monthly Boeing delivery publications.

Please feel free to add updates, corrections and remarks by replies in this thread (or by PM).

Cheers, Peter
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Old December 1st, 2016, 05:34 PM   #2548
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Latest info :

Silkway West airlines asked for a slide in delivery of LN 1533, reason unknown.

New delivery "date" is now vaguely given as first quarter of 2017.

LN 1528 is still on schedule for delivery in mid-December
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L/N 1539 - 747-8(B5), RC060, serial number 60411, KAL (intercontinental) #10, estimated delivery date July 03 2017, pictured at FAL slant position #2, December 02.



Orginal uploaded by Enrique Perrella on twitter, see : http://twitter.com/Enrique77W


Parts for L/N 1540 - 747-8(HV)F, RC606, serial number 63659, AirBridgeCargo, VP-BBP, loaded into the Final body join position. (December 02 2016)



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The current Air Force one 747 is like what 30+ years old? I think its time for a new one!
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It's another populistic pile of lies from Trump. Contract for construction isn't even signed yet.

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Boeing Statement on Air Force One

CHICAGO, Dec. 6, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) today issued the following statement regarding the Air Force One program:

"We are currently under contract for $170 million to help determine the capabilities of these complex military aircraft that serve the unique requirements of the President of the United States. We look forward to working with the U.S. Air Force on subsequent phases of the program allowing us to deliver the best planes for the President at the best value for the American taxpayer."
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Old December 6th, 2016, 08:43 PM   #2553
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If Trump is expert in something it's in generating distractions and in obtaining free publicity.

By inflating the cost of the new AF1 procurement from $1.7B to $4B he can sell the idea that he is a master negotiator when he eventually announces he reduced the cost to $2B.. when in truth the cost is going up.

Be prepared for 4 years of this trick by the timeshare-salesman-in-chief.
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Boeing shares drop 1% all the same.

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That's how it works, one 'bad' message and the share's go down. I don't know why it worth mentioning in such an article, as it's something that happens every other day. The follow up article also never mentions that the shares bounced back again at the end of the trading day, closing with a very minor increase over yesterday. They also never mind the fact that the Boeing stock had a couple of very positive months with a 20% increase since mid September.

In other words, a 1% drop during the day, regular business, the financial markets are not impressed anymore with Trump tweets. We'll how it turns out, maybe Trumps tweets can give the US government a little better price when the deals are finalized.
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If Trump is expert in something it's in generating distractions and in obtaining free publicity.

By inflating the cost of the new AF1 procurement from $1.7B to $4B he can sell the idea that he is a master negotiator when he eventually announces he reduced the cost to $2B.. when in truth the cost is going up.

Be prepared for 4 years of this trick by the timeshare-salesman-in-chief.
It's also petty revenge, which is the troublesome part. About a half-hour before Mr. Trump sent that message, a Boeing official said something critical about Trump's views on trade. So, apparently, criticizing Trump's opinions is a license for him to threaten deals made between companies and the government.
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About a half-hour before Mr. Trump sent that message, a Boeing official said something critical about Trump's views on trade.
Not 'an official' , the CEO himself spoke to the Chicago Tribune.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...05-column.html
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