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Old May 2nd, 2012, 10:27 PM   #341
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #342
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Old June 16th, 2012, 06:00 AM   #343
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Boeing Co. is walking a delicate line in China between helping nurture a customer's aerospace capability and preparing for its partner's emergence as a rival, the planemaker's regional chief said.

A strategy of collaborating while girding for competition emerged after senior leaders analyzed jet-development programs worldwide, Boeing China President Marc Allen said yesterday.

China was identified as the most-formidable foe among a group that included Canada, Russia and Japan, he said.

Boeing's China ventures have helped build what Allen said is a 53 percent share of the local aviation market, the second-biggest worldwide for new planes behind the U.S.

The Asian country is nearing the planned 2016 debut of the C919, its first narrow-body jet, which will compete with Boeing's 737 in the biggest segment of the global aircraft market.

"A new competitor in the form of the C919 is OK - it's actually a good thing, as it will lead us all to run faster and sharpen ourselves," Allen said in a Bloomberg Television interview in Beijing. "But we also want to be a collaborator, so we have to balance the two."

Boeing, based in Chicago, is the largest buyer of airplane components and parts in China, he said, with 35 direct suppliers and hundreds of secondary vendors. He declined to give a figure for value of parts purchased.

The company's China investments include a manufacturing innovation center opening next year with Aviation Industry Corp. of China, the nation's biggest aerospace company. It plans a joint research center in Beijing to study ways to pare fuel use and emissions, and has spent US$21 million to expand a composites production center in Tianjin.



C919 Flight

The 168-seat C919, being developed by AVIC-backed Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, is scheduled to make its maiden flight in 2014 and enter commercial service in 2016.

Meeting the targets would be a step that has eluded Boeing and Airbus SAS in recent years, with the former's 787 Dreamliner and the latter's A350 both suffering delays.

One way for Boeing to avoid the danger of giving away too much intellectual property to a nascent competitor is joint development of new products with a Chinese partner rather than using technology the company has honed on its own, Allen said.

"We come in the spirit of co-creation," he said.

"If we're going to do things that involve new IP, we'll do them with our partners so it's shared IP and something we've already made a decision on," he said. "In that sense we don't feel that there's a risk of bringing something into the marketplace that we're going to lose."

Allen said Boeing has no plans to open an assembly line in China, as Airbus did in 2008 with a mandate to piece together 284 single-aisle planes by mid-2016 for the Chinese market.

McDonnell Douglas, which was purchased by Boeing in 1997, opened an assembly line for its MD80 in China in the early 1990s. That venture was shut down after fewer than 40 planes were built.

"We want to always be ahead of the curve," Allen said. "Being here with the production facilities we have and the suppliers we have positions us ahead of the curve in what is one of the fastest capability-growth markets in the world."
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:48 AM   #344
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Boeing today announced it has expanded its Flight Services business in China, greatly enhancing training capacity for airlines in the region.

With the introduction of an advanced 787 Dreamliner training suite for pilot and maintenance training, and a newly-installed 747-400 full-flight simulator, the company is tripling its offerings at the Boeing Flight Services Shanghai training campus. The new training devices join an existing 757/767 full-flight simulator at the facility.

"China is one of the fastest-growing and most dynamic aviation markets in the world, and Boeing is committed to giving the Chinese airlines the competitive advantage they need to succeed as they grow," said Sherry Carbary, vice president, Boeing Flight Services.

"Providing new, world-class resources and training focused on the region's 787 and 747 fleets is one way we can bring the Boeing Edge to China."



The Boeing Pilot & Technician Outlook projects the largest demand for global pilots and maintenance technicians will be in the Asia Pacific region. China's expected requirement leads the region's demand with a need for 72,000 new commercial airline pilots and more than 108,000 maintenance technicians over the next 20 years.

"As we celebrate the 40th anniversary of Boeing in China, this is another important step forward in our long-term commitment to serving China's development of the air transport system," said Marc Allen, president of Boeing China. "There is a real need for more pilots in the region, and the expansion of the Boeing training campus in Shanghai is geared to help meet that need."

Chinese customers are already benefiting from the new Boeing training capacity in Shanghai. Crews from Yangtze River Express, Air China and China Cargo have completed 747-400 training. Several crews from Hainan Airlines have completed 787 pilot training.

"Boeing not only produces amazing airplanes, but also delivers innovative services and support throughout the lifecycle of the customer fleet," said Ihssane Mounir, vice president of Sales and Marketing for Greater China and Korea, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

"With the expanded capability at the Boeing Flight Services Shanghai training campus, we will be able to quickly and efficiently provide our services to our customers in China and the Asia-Pacific region."


About the Boeing Edge

Boeing offers a comprehensive portfolio of commercial aviation services, collectively known as the Boeing Edge, bringing value and advantages to customers and the industry.

Boeing Flight Services provides integrated offerings to drive optimized performance, efficiency and safety through advanced flight and maintenance training as well as improved air traffic management and 24/7 flight operations support.

Flight Services provides digital tools and data to enhance overall operations, airport infrastructure, fuel efficiency, flight planning, navigation and scheduling.


(Boeing's press release)
http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/19/19839.html
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Old September 7th, 2012, 09:59 AM   #347
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Old September 8th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #348
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Does any body know if EK SkyCargo are still in line to get the 748F ? From what I know it only halved it's original order, but some one mentioned they cancelled the order all together.

If they will recieve the airframe does any body know when ?
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Old September 8th, 2012, 09:36 AM   #349
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Does any body know if EK SkyCargo are still in line to get the 748F ? From what I know it only halved it's original order, but some one mentioned they cancelled the order all together.

If they will recieve the airframe does any body know when ?
Their order for 10 747-8Fs was sold on a sale and leaseback deal to Dubai Aerospace Enterprise that already had 5 on order itself. Later DAE converted 5 747-8Fs for 5 777Fs, this was for Emirates. This means that that in theory there are still 5 747-8F destined for EK SkyCargo. But there's talk that EK SkyCargo won't take any 747s to just go for a 777F fleet, but DAEs order hasn't changed since their 1st conversion in Nov. 2011.

There are also no known planned production slots for their 747-8Fs, so it's hard to tell when they will get them.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #350
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The long awaited Air China order for 5 747-8Is has finally shown up on Boeing's order list.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Here's the original press release about the order from March 2011.
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1651

This is the 1st firm order for this year, and brings the total to 41 for the 747-8I (including the Business Jet / VIP orders) and 111 for both the -8I and the -8F versions. It's the 1st order for the 747-8 since July 2011.

Boeing has said earlier this year that Air China might be the 2nd commercial operator of the -8I after Lufthansa. It's not known when they will get their 1st one, but that could in theory already be next year.
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In the very early hours of September 13th, Lufthansa landed its first Boeing 747-8i at Bengaluru International Airport. The B748 service on flight LH754 from Frankfurt to Bangalore commenced one day earlier than announced since Lufthansa was able to complete its fleet induction of the newest 748 D-ABYD, one day earlier. Keeping with tradition, the fire-fighters and rescue teams of the ARFF gave D-ABYA the water cannon salute, signifying the first flight by this aircraft type.

A piece of trivia for us AvGeeks. D-ABYA, the first Boeing 747-8i has performed the first flights to all the three existing Lufthansa 748 destinations -- Washington Dulles, New Delhi, and now Bangalore.
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The 747-8I BBJ for the State of Kuwait.

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Old October 21st, 2012, 01:55 PM   #355
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looks amazing first governmental plane ??
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Didn't Qatar also recieve they're two government planes ?

Also asked this question before, what's Emirates SkyCargo's order for five 748F airframes plus five options. Are they still going ahead with that purchase, and when should they recieve them ? I see no reason to cancel the order because of they're positive business numbers regarding cargo compared to the rest of the world.
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It's not the 1st governmental plane that is delivered. But those flew out as white planes to the outfitters, this on is the 1st one that will be delivered in it's final livery.


As for Emirates SkyCargo, it's unclear right now what the exact status is of their order. They sold their order to Dubai Aerospace Enterprise and they still in have an order for 10 frames in the order book. But it's unclear when they will be delivered and if Emirates will actually take them. Emirates SkyCargo seems to like it's 777Fs very much they could also convert their other 747-8Fs for 777Fs. And since the order is now for DAE it also means that they can lease out those planes to another airline.


Air China Cargo is also an interesting development. The recent Air China order was for 5 747-8Is, but in the production list 3 slots have now been reserved for 747-8Fs for Air China Cargo who hasn't ordered those planes yet. It could be that a new order is on the way, or that they will be leasing those planes from DAE since that is only lessor with more the 2 747s on order. They should be in final assembly around mid 2013 with a 1st delivery in the 2nd half of the year.


This blog keeps track of all the production and deliveries of the 747-8.
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How many more airlines are interested in the 747-8s because this seems like it will replace the 744s currently flying worldwide? I don't know if UA or DL will get this aircraft because this looks similar to their current 747 fleet.
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And they are dumping b743 slowly and once they get there b748 there will be none of the b743 and about the b744 not sure
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Saudia still has 14 777-300ERs on order. They have 2 versions, 1 with 305 seats and 1 with 413 seats. Their 747s, both -300 and -400 have around 350 seats, it seems like the 777 will be their replacement for the 747.

The 777-300ER seems together with the A380 the best replacement for the 747-400s. When the A350-1000 and the 777X will hit the market they will also eat into the sales of the 747-8.

So it remains to be seen how many orders the 747-8I will get. There have potential customers like Philippine Airlines and Turkish Airlines this year, but they are still undecided about an order. Hong Kong Airlines have been rumored behind a undisclosed commitment from China last year, but it doesn't look like they will turn it into an actual order since the airline isn't doing that great.

That leaves Delta and United, they could buy it but it doesn't look like both will make a VLA order soon. And more smaller airlines that want to have a new large airplane without having to wait several years.

When the cargo market picks up again it will always remain one of the best planes out there, especially with the front loading that makes big loads possible. But even then it faces stiff competition from the 777F and later from the possible freight variants of the 777X and the A350.
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