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Old May 3rd, 2013, 04:03 AM   #461
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Emirates SkyCargo still has 5 777Fs on order, they seem very happy about those planes. It's also cheaper to operate in the light of Emirates gigantic 777-300ER fleet. I guess they only waited with cancelling to see how the airfreight market would develop. Since it's still declining worldwide there was no reason to keep it up so they cancelled their lease order with Dubai Aerospace Enterprise that in it's turn cancelled the order with Boeing. And if the market rebounds in a couple of years they can always order some more 777s

And Dubai Aerospace Enterprise as a lessor is also not the biggest success story. They went on an order spree in 2007, but since 2010 there only have been cancellations of orders. They now only have the 777F on order for Emirates.
To get a better understanding DAE and Emirates are owned by the same people. On paper yes it does look like DAE did cancel orders from Boeing and Airbus, but on a business point of view it was restructured. If you remember Airbus ordered thirty A380s at the Berlin Airshow a few years ago, well that was just reshuffling what DAE had on order value wise. The order for fifty 77Ws at the last DAS was the Boeing reshuffle.

In the end DAE and Emirates did what was best at that time because of the market crash not just in Dubai, but on a global scale.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 01:04 AM   #462
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On a side note:
It turns out that it wasn´t so bad for Airbus to cancel the development of the A380F because of the massive problems with the A380-800 (cable crisis). This gigantic freighter would be unsaleable in today´s crippling cargo market.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #463
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Boeing 747-8 Freighter To Join Etihad Airways Fleet

Etihad Airways has signed a multi-year Aircraft, Crew, Maintenance and Insurance (ACMI) agreement with Atlas Air Worldwide to provide the UAE flag carrier with its first Boeing 747-8 Freighter.

The full liveried Etihad Cargo Boeing 747-8 Freighter will be the largest in the carrier’s growing freighter fleet. The aircraft has a payload capacity of 138 tons and a range of more than 8,000 kilometres.

This is the second such ACMI agreement between Atlas Air and Etihad Airways, complementing an existing lease agreement signed for a Boeing 747-400 Freighter in May 2012.

The delivery will take Etihad Cargo’s freighter fleet to nine aircraft. From June the airline will also operate three Boeing B777F, one Boeing 747-400ERF, one Boeing 747-400F and three Airbus A330-200F.

James Hogan, Etihad Airways President and Chief Executive Officer, said: “Cargo is one of our key strategic pillars and a growing part of the business. In 2012, it delivered tonnage growth of 19 per cent on the back of a capacity increase of 14 per cent in available tonnage kilometres.

“This deal with Atlas for a Boeing 747-8 Freighter reinforces our ability to serve a growing number of customers from around the globe.

“As we continue to add depth and scale to our cargo operations we look forward to fully leveraging the aircraft’s capability and efficient cost base to grow our reach, and facilitate global trade into, out of, and through the UAE.”

William J. Flynn, President and Chief Executive Officer, Atlas Air Worldwide, said: “We’re pleased to expand our relationship with Etihad Airways and help it extend its reach with next-generation performance in payload, fuel efficiency and total cost per tonne-mile.

“Together with our global operations and our reliable, high-quality service, Etihad now has additional flexibility to take advantage of market opportunities.”

Atlas is the only ACMI provider in the world to offer the Boeing 747-8F aircraft to its customers.


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Old May 7th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #464
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RC554 B-LJD delivered!
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Old May 20th, 2013, 05:41 AM   #465
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Cargolux 747-8F arriving into SIN
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Old May 29th, 2013, 10:17 PM   #466
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Boeing Celebrates Delivery of 50th 747-8

EVERETT, Wash., May 29, 2013 – Boeing (NYSE: BA) celebrated the 50th delivery of a 747-8 today. Deutsche Lufthansa AG, the launch customer of the passenger version, took delivery of the milestone aircraft almost one year after the first revenue flight of the 747-8 Intercontinental. It is the airline’s seventh 747-8 and its 82nd 747.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #467
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No doubt, the 747 has seen its better days as a passenger carrier. With the A380, and the new 777s now flying, and more to be manufactured, operating costs, are much less, at least for the 2-engined 777s, and with the new model of the 777 to come out, those will have a higher passenger capacity, so the 747, will be, likely a good cargo plane. I look for many airlines to retire most of the 747s soon, and have them converted to freighters.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #468
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With the crisis in the air cargo market the passenger to freighter conversion market also has collapsed. Almost none of the 747-400s passenger version that are now being retired are converted, they just end up in the dessert.

There are several airlines that are parking their 747-400Fs and converted freighters in the desert. Singapore Airlines for example has just announced that they will store 1 more next month. And others, like Cathay are replacing the 747-400F even faster with new 747-8Fs then they had originally planned.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #469
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RC521, 2nd test frame of 747-8F completed refurbishment in SKF and flew again:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...430Z/KSKF/KSKF
This one will go to Nippon Cargo Airlines as JA11KZ, the question is when. NCA rescheduled delivery of it's 747-8Fs, JA14KZ is parked on desert, JA15KZ should follow soon. I dont know if NCA take JA11KZ now, or it will be waiting for better times in Marana. This one should be cheaper than new frames, so who knows.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #470
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N855GT in Etihad Livery:

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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:02 PM   #471
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The plane already did a flight. Saw a picture of it in Miami doing an Atlas Air Flight.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 11:06 AM   #472
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I wish if this aircraft was a passenger plane.

But these days, the glory days of jumbojet as the premier long distance airliner is over.
Even smaller planes like Boeing 787 could fly the same distance that was only reachable by jumbojet in the past.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #473
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I've seen rumours on Airliners.net of an Etihad 747-8I order at the Paris Airshow next week, but I would be surprised if there will be an actual order. It's only likely if they really want even more big aircraft on a very short notice then all the 777-300s and the A380s & A350s that they have on order.


And it's true that the original 747 was more often order because of it's range and not of it's size. The introduction of the ETOPS system, allowing twin engine aircraft to fly transpacific and transatlantic was the start of the demise of 1st the trijets and later the 4 engined Jumbo's. Only the biggest will survive, and that is the A380 right now. And even the A380 doesn't seem to get that many orders the last couple of years.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 01:31 PM   #474
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Operated by Atlas Air Inc. ? How it'll works? Just want to know.
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I've seen rumours on Airliners.net of an Etihad 747-8I order at the Paris Airshow next week, but I would be surprised if there will be an actual order. It's only likely if they really want even more big aircraft on a very short notice then all the 777-300s and the A380s & A350s that they have on order.


And it's true that the original 747 was more often order because of it's range and not of it's size. The introduction of the ETOPS system, allowing twin engine aircraft to fly transpacific and transatlantic was the start of the demise of 1st the trijets and later the 4 engined Jumbo's. Only the biggest will survive, and that is the A380 right now. And even the A380 doesn't seem to get that many orders the last couple of years.
That would be welcome news for Boeing. Boeing will probably give them a nice deal and delivery slots.
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Good delivery slots is a given, although they might not be as readily available anymore now Boeing has decided to reduce the production rate.


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Operated by Atlas Air Inc. ? How it'll works? Just want to know.
Etihad has leased the plane from Atlas Air as a wet lease, this includes the operation of the plane as in the crew and maintenance, etc. So even though it will fly under Etihad flight numbers the plane is still owned by Atlas and the crew is employed by Atlas not Etihad.

This is actually very common in the cargo market. Atlas has this kind of deals with several other airlines including Qantas and DHL Aviation. And the 747-400 freighters in Emirates fleet for example are operated by TNT Airways.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #477
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Better pics of HZ-AI4:
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SAUDIA CARGO (N958BA) Boeing 787-8F Test Flight by moonm, on Flickr

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SAUDIA CARGO (N958BA) Boeing 787-8F Test Flight by moonm, on Flickr

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http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.p...c6d02b#p645998

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Lufthansa is doing trail runs at ORD on July 13 to see if ORD can handle the 747-8I. FAA proving run. Lets hope all goes well and we will see the 747-8I in ORD later this year.
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A 747-8I in Etihad colours would look amazing!
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What happens to Korean Air's Boeing 747-8i? Any news about it?
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