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Old February 16th, 2014, 03:12 PM   #821
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News is on the street that Arik Air has canceled its order for two 747-8i aircraft and will take 777s instead.

http://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/397744621540745218
Arik 748 order still there in January update http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...tF=View+Report

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The Kuwait Airlines only 747-400 is currently being converted from a VIP airplane to a full Economy class plane, talk about a downgrade.
Only the upper deck was VIP configured, the aircraft was used for commercial operations when needed to labour destinations like India and Egypt.

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Old February 16th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #822
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I know a Boeing 747-8i replacement has been discussed here previously for Air Force One, but does anyone know if the Air Force is seeking a replacement for Air Force Two (the VP's plane), currently a 757 variant? Presumably -if they are- they would be looking at another two-engine, either a Boeing 787-9 or 777X.
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Old February 16th, 2014, 10:03 PM   #823
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The C-32/757 AF2s are a good 10 years younger then the VC-25/747 AF1s, they are not up for replacement yet.

Size wise the best current model replacement would be a 737-900 (or an A321), but a 787-8 could also be an option. The 777X would be almost as big as a 747-8, that would not make too much sense. If Boeing goes ahead with the rumored 757 replacement that would become the most likely candidate.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #824
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So this is the future of the 747 -as a cargo plane. What a dismal end for the onetime Queen of the Skies.
What a hump of crap. It's still the king of the skies. 50% of all aircargo is transported by a 747 and with a growing amount of /8f's in the skies its a big hit.
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Old February 22nd, 2014, 04:00 AM   #825
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Interesting article on FG about Lufthansa accelerating it's delivery schedule.

I think this tracks to their statements that they are happy with their frames and the experience it is delivering to their passengers. Hopefully, as the PIP'd frames come online they'll be even more pleased with their performance.

Has anyone read anything about LH planning to retrofit their existing frames with the PIP?
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Old February 23rd, 2014, 08:57 AM   #826
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Old February 23rd, 2014, 03:38 PM   #827
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How?
It's about LH accelerating its 747-8l delivery schedule.
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Old February 24th, 2014, 09:00 AM   #828
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Interesting article on FG about Lufthansa accelerating it's delivery schedule. I think this tracks to their statements that they are happy with their frames and the experience it is delivering to their passengers. Hopefully, as the PIP'd frames come online they'll be even more pleased with their performance. Has anyone read anything about LH planning to retrofit their existing frames with the PIP?
Well, this is great news that they are happy and the aircraft met their expectations.

Hopefully, they can help Boeing put in a good word with the other airlines.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #829
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Of the nine 748i BBJ versions eight are as follows:

1. Kuwait
1. Oman
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Abu Dhabi
3. Qatar (includes the ex-Emirs one)

So the ninth one goes to whom, new operator or one of the above?
Any one know?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 11:28 AM   #830
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Turkish Airlines is apparently still evaluating whether or not they can use 380s or 747-8s. This has to have been going on for several years now, correct?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 02:49 PM   #831
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That's indeed the same news story for several years now.

Every now and then it's interupted by the news that they will make a decission in several months time, or that they won't be placing the order in the near future. But everytime it comes back to the same "we're still evaluting" headline.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 11:15 PM   #832
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There was an article that came out at the end of 2013 talking about Transaero looking to expand their orders sometime in February. The way it reads is kind of ambiguous. It could be interpreted as an expansion of their existing orders, or just as new orders to expand their fleet in general.

Around that time, someone else also noted that ATDB was listing 8 747-8 frames for UN. That could be an oversight, perhaps a double-count, but it was interesting fodder for discussion, nonetheless.

Today, this news snippet was posted, and while it doesn't contain any actual order information, it does confirm that UN is in talks with Boeing about possibly adding more 747-8 frames.
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Old February 28th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #833
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There was an article that came out at the end of 2013 talking about Transaero looking to expand their orders sometime in February. The way it reads is kind of ambiguous. It could be interpreted as an expansion of their existing orders, or just as new orders to expand their fleet in general.

Around that time, someone else also noted that ATDB was listing 8 747-8 frames for UN. That could be an oversight, perhaps a double-count, but it was interesting fodder for discussion, nonetheless.

Today, this news snippet was posted, and while it doesn't contain any actual order information, it does confirm that UN is in talks with Boeing about possibly adding more 747-8 frames.
That is some welcome news for the program if it goes through.
LN-1499 is for Air China is now in assembly.
LN-1500 is for Lufthansa is now in assembly.
So those planes should be coming out in the next couple of months. 1500 747s built is just a remarkable feat by Boeing. She will be for ever known as the queen of the sky.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 03:56 AM   #834
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 01:31 AM   #835
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Reminds me of the image below. I'm starting to dislike the fact that Boeing did so little to the fuselage. They could of made it more aerodynamic and given it a 787 style tail like the 777x.

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Old March 2nd, 2014, 07:53 AM   #836
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Reminds me of the image below. I'm starting to dislike the fact that Boeing did so little to the fuselage. They could of made it more aerodynamic and given it a 787 style tail like the 777x.
I think the stretch is fine for the 747-8. As for the tail, i think for something as big -pand wide as a 747-8, that is the size of tail that's needed.

Does anybody have an image of what the tail tanks looked like?
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 09:42 PM   #837
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You can see a Lufthansa Boeing 747-8.

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Old March 3rd, 2014, 05:27 AM   #838
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Reminds me of the image below. I'm starting to dislike the fact that Boeing did so little to the fuselage. They could of made it more aerodynamic and given it a 787 style tail like the 777x.

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One of the lingering question in my mind is: why they didn't extend the upper deck all the way to the back like A380?
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 06:40 AM   #839
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One of the lingering question in my mind is: why they didn't extend the upper deck all the way to the back like A380?
that hump makes a boeing 747 unique.... like its trademark.

IF Boeing WANTED a double decker plane ... they would do it. But its not financially beneficial to do it.

I dont think Boeing wants a double decker plane anyways and will focus on the 777X and the 787 are the future of the Boeing Fleet.
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they would do it. But its not financially beneficial to do it.

I dont think Boeing wants a double decker plane anyways and will focus on the 777X and the 787 are the future of the Boeing Fleet.
That's what actually happened. Even the A380 struggle to meet occupancy rate. So, it is definitely not beneficial for Boeing to develpo A380s rival.

I believe in early 1990s Boeing did actually planned to build aircraft similar to A380, but it never materialized.
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