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Old May 18th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #961
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Old May 18th, 2014, 09:05 PM   #962
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Old May 18th, 2014, 10:15 PM   #963
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This correct thread because it is B747-400 and it is family of b747-8 its right threaf to post like my post
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Old May 18th, 2014, 11:35 PM   #964
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This correct thread because it is B747-400 and it is family of b747-8 its right threaf to post like my post
What are you talking about? The Boeing 747-400 is not in the Boeing 747-800 family. The plane you posted in that image is a Boeing 747-437. Clearly not in the -800 family. The thread title says "BOEING | 747-8I News & Discussion" Clearly has a "-8" not a "-400"

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/A...ctive-b747.htm

Post that image in the Air India thread or go back to the 1980's when the -400 series was being developed.
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Old May 19th, 2014, 03:57 PM   #965
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I keep wondering, why doesn't Boeing develop a new version of the plane with an extended upper deck, to compete with A380.
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Old May 19th, 2014, 05:52 PM   #966
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Old May 19th, 2014, 09:23 PM   #967
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I keep wondering, why doesn't Boeing develop a new version of the plane with an extended upper deck, to compete with A380.
The Boeing 747-8 does have an extended upper deck and the fuselage is a bit longer from the -400.

The reason why so few airlines bought the 747-8 is the reason why Boeing wont be developing a plane like the A380 anytime soon. The A380 itself is not profitable for Airbus and they still have not got back the money that they put into development and production of the A380. With such negative profitability, why would Boeing want to roll around in the same mud? The A380 dominates that niche, so Boeing wont have a chance either way.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 12:09 AM   #968
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The Boeing 747-8 does have an extended upper deck and the fuselage is a bit longer from the -400.

The reason why so few airlines bought the 747-8 is the reason why Boeing wont be developing a plane like the A380 anytime soon. The A380 itself is not profitable for Airbus and they still have not got back the money that they put into development and production of the A380. With such negative profitability, why would Boeing want to roll around in the same mud? The A380 dominates that niche, so Boeing wont have a chance either way.
I think I read somewhere that in the 90s that Airbus and Boeing actually started working together on the 380 project to share costs. Boeing realized that the 380 wasnt going to make them enough money and pulled out of the project completely.

and boeing could EASILY stretch the 747 hump all the way down to make it look like the 380. But the 747-8i is struggling with passenger plane sales and the 8i series have mainly been cargo planes.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 04:42 AM   #969
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Old May 20th, 2014, 08:33 AM   #970
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Is this question asked every single month?


Of course Boeing wished they sold a bit more 747-8Is, if they had made it bigger it might have helped with that. But they are still the clear market leader in the twin-aisle/wide body segment. When it comes to sales it was a wise decision to focus on the 777 and the 787. Boeing even sold 232 767s since the A380 was launched at the end of 2000.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:18 PM   #971
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Question: does Boeing have any plans for developing a new plane that would replace the 747 anytime soon?
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:31 PM   #972
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Question: does Boeing have any plans for developing a new plane that would replace the 747 anytime soon?
Well, not directly. But the 777-9x will pretty much make the 747 obsolete
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:34 PM   #973
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Boeing 777-9X
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:49 PM   #974
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The 777-9X is a bit smaller then the 747-8I, but the capacity difference is small enough for both models to compete in the same market range with the 777 having a clear economical advantage.

Before they launched the 777X a completely new large aircraft design replacing both the 777 and the 747 was also seen as a serious option. Since they went with the 777X instead this also meant that the lifespan of the 747-8 was also stretched into the 2020s but probably mainly as a freighter (depending on the freight market to rebound) and as a AF1 successor (but that's just 2 planes of course).

As for future developments Boeing will first start to develop a successor to the 737/757 which should see the light in the mid 2020s. A completely new large aircraft can only be expected to be launched in the late 2020s with an EIS in mid 2030s. But time will tell what the future will bring, there are simply too many variables to make any valid predictions this far into the future.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:56 PM   #975
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Old May 20th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #976
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The 777-9X is a bit smaller then the 747-8I, but the capacity difference is small enough for both models to compete in the same market range with the 777 having a clear economical advantage.

Before they launched the 777X a completely new large aircraft design replacing both the 777 and the 747 was also seen as a serious option. Since they went with the 777X instead this also meant that the lifespan of the 747-8 was also stretched into the 2020s but probably mainly as a freighter (depending on the freight market to rebound) and as a AF1 successor (but that's just 2 planes of course).

As for future developments Boeing will first start to develop a successor to the 737/757 which should see the light in the mid 2020s. A completely new large aircraft can only be expected to be launched in the late 2020s with an EIS in mid 2030s. But time will tell what the future will bring, there are simply too many variables to make any valid predictions this far into the future.
I agree with this. Once fuel efficient planes are made, I am sure Boeing or Airbus would look into fuel efficient planes that have a higher cruising speed. I am not saying super sonic like the Concord but just a faster cruising speed in general. "Time is money"
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:06 AM   #977
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A few days ago I came across the model of Boeing 747-8 in Thai Airways livery. I wonder if Thai Airways at one point considering to purchase this airplane?

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A few days ago I came across the model of Boeing 747-8 in Thai Airways livery. I wonder if Thai Airways at one point considering to purchase this airplane?

Boeing did offer B747-8 as part of THAI's fleet renewal and expansion plan. Heard that they offered THAI a very good offer for this. They considered it during 2010-2012.
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