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Old October 23rd, 2006, 01:44 PM   #101
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nice the 747 has always been my favourite
Same with me.
I know it is old but the design still looks fresh and very lovely.
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 02:44 PM   #102
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The B747 has that sleek design rather than the A380 which, to me, looks extrmely dopey
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 02:49 PM   #103
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Yes but it is very old
Its an old design but the ones being built now are totally different planes from the first ones built and the ones built just 10 years ago.
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 03:05 PM   #104
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I thjink the 747 is pretty classical looking, but it does have a disadvatage in that it increases frontal area dramatically for very little gain in space, since the hump is only for part of the fuselage.

I think the 380 is going to be a design that grows on people. It took people a while to get used to the 747, and the 380 will be the same. I am sure the first several years will look pretty negative for it, but over time it will be demmed one of those industry changing products. I don't think Boeing could have done nor benefitted from it, as it looks too long term for an American company. But they also don't need it.
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 06:21 PM   #105
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The delays and financial problems which are bogging Airbus down are definitely making the 747-800 more attractive- not to mention that the plane is better looking anyways..always did love the good ol' jumbo jet..

As much as the over-whelming size of the A-380 blows my mind, it doesn't have the same effect on me as the 747 does-

I hope and predict a relatively strong revival- just wait!!!

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Old October 24th, 2006, 06:26 AM   #106
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Please get the model designation right.
Its 747-8, NOT 747-800!
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Old October 24th, 2006, 06:31 AM   #107
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The 747 is a timeless design that's going to be improved yet again.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 07:03 AM   #108
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The 747 is a timeless design that's going to be improved yet again.
What about the B797 project ?
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Old October 24th, 2006, 07:04 AM   #109
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That will make it the world's longest airliner at 76.4m - slightly longer than the Airbus A340-600 at 75.3m.

1) B747-800 = 76.4m
2) A340-600 = 75.3m
3) B777-300 = 73.9m
4) A380-800 = 73.0m
5) B747-400 = 70.6m
When it is built [someday] - New # 1) A380-900 = 79.9m
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Old October 24th, 2006, 03:39 PM   #110
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When it is built [someday] - New # 1) A380-900 = 79.9m
Ya, if it is ever going to be built; which by the look of the current shambles Airbus is in, is highly improbable.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 04:17 PM   #111
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Ya, if it is ever going to be built; which by the look of the current shambles Airbus is in, is highly improbable.
The A380-900 will definetly be built as this aircraft is optimised for the size of the -900 series not -800.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #112
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What about the B797 project ?
There is no official word as yet from Boeing on the 797 designation.
So far, only speculations from the peripheral media had badged it to a so-called 1000 seat BWB and lately to the Y1 successor (737RS) to the 737. These reports, especially that of the BWB, are to be taken with barrels of salt.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 04:38 PM   #113
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The A380-900 will definetly be built as this aircraft is optimised for the size of the -900 series not -800.
Who knows for sure at this moment?
Certainly not me nor you for that matter.....Not even EADS itself.
They will want to but can they?...considering the dire straits they are in right now. If, and that's a big IF, the WhaleJet can haul itself out of the financial cesspool it had gotten into and start making money, then chances are good. If not, well...........
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Old October 24th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #114
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We now know that Airbus will need to sell more than 450 planes of the A380 in order to break-even on the A380 project. So, the newer -900 series may not even see daylight since they need to recover from the losses resulting from all the delays.

The A350XWB will certainly break strong into the markets if Airbus are seriously considering bring it and making the bird.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #115
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Boeing 747-8i

Edit: This Should now be the official 747-8i thread

So what airline do you think will order the 747-8i next?

I think United is a potential customer as is Emirates, Northwest, Cathay Pacific, and possibly Qantas.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 11:13 AM   #116
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Basically any large airline that hasnt sprung for more than 10 380s yet
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Old January 5th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #117
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Definately not Emirates!
They ordered, like, 60 A380s :0
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Old January 5th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #118
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ANA: won't operate anything beyond 737, 777 and 787
JAL: Not in real good shape to order, 77Ws would do fine
Air China: believed to be getting A380
China Southern: bought the A380
Cathay Pacific: strong contender but mentioned they need nothing else other than what they have right now
Thai Airways/Malaysia: Bought the A380 but could buy 748i possibly
SQ: no-no to 748i
Air India: believed to be getting A380 but 748i is possible
Qantas: I think A380 could be enuff for them if the A380 performance exceeds expectations

Lufthansa: Got the 748i
Air France-KLM: AF has A380, may just make do with 77W since its only slightly smaller
British Airways: I think 748i is a lost cause here

United: Could get the 748i but they are not planning to get new aircraft soon, depends on what's their status in future
Northwest: No need, I believe with the opening up of Asia-US routes and aircraft like A350/B787, there will be less reason for pax to transfer thru NRT

Basically, I think the 748i will generate lesser orders than A380 and may only exist in Freighter form especially since Singapore Airlines and other airlines are reporting that the A380 meets or exceeds performance expectations.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #119
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There are a few other 747 operators that may go for it.

El Al, certainly very possible
I don't know if SAA has gone for one or the other
Garuda isn't in great shape, so who knows there
ANZ I imagine will go with 777/787 airframes
Asiana or KAL are both anyone's guess

I agree, the 747-8 is going to be overwhelmingly a freighter.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #120
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I think Emirates has already expressed interest in the freighter version.
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