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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:15 AM   #1321
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Which airline is currently the largest Boeing 747-400 operator?
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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:27 AM   #1322
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According to Planespotters.net, British Airways has 44 active B744 aircraft in service. View complete list here.
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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:30 AM   #1323
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Wow, that means a bulk of their Boeing 747-400 fleet from 1990s are still around!
While its close competitor from the same era (Singapore Airlines) have disposed all of its Boeing 747-400 fleet, except for its freight version.

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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:35 AM   #1324
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That's right. You can also look at other carriers too with large numbers of B744s in their fleet, most notably Lufthansa and KLM. Interestingly, the number of B744s in Asia are shrinking, with the exception of South Korea...
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Old December 1st, 2014, 12:36 PM   #1325
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Kenya Airways Cargo (Martinair) Boeing 747 (PH-MPS) at Schiphol Cargo by PictureJohn64, on Flickr
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Old December 1st, 2014, 02:28 PM   #1326
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Interestingly, the number of B744s in Asia are shrinking, with the exception of South Korea...
But they too have been relegated to regional flights, or any flights to route such as ICN-TLV.

I think with the arrival of their Boeing 747-8i, these planes will surely be retired.
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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:06 PM   #1327
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Air India Had 14 b747-400 From 1993 but now only has 5 left in fleet With 12 First Class 26 Business Class And 385 Economy Class Total 423 Passengers configuration.
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Old December 1st, 2014, 08:09 PM   #1328
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But they too have been relegated to regional flights, or any flights to route such as ICN-TLV.

I think with the arrival of their Boeing 747-8i, these planes will surely be retired.
That's true. When Philippine Airlines retired its B744s some time back, its last flights were long-haul, especially Manila-San Francisco. Gee, I now miss riding that aircraft, especially I've ridden on it much more than any other aircraft.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 04:44 AM   #1329
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That's right. You can also look at other carriers too with large numbers of B744s in their fleet, most notably Lufthansa and KLM. Interestingly, the number of B744s in Asia are shrinking, with the exception of South Korea...
Delta (16) and United (24) still have 40 of those planes between them.
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That's true as well. I even saw the Star Alliance livery on UA's B744 today at SFO!
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 02:30 PM   #1331
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Wow, that means a bulk of their Boeing 747-400 fleet from 1990s are still around!
While its close competitor from the same era (Singapore Airlines) have disposed all of its Boeing 747-400 fleet, except for its freight version.

European airlines are known for running their planes into the ground.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 03:43 PM   #1332
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By the way, Philippine Airlines did actually receiving the last batch of Boeing 747-400 productions. So why did they retire the plane so early?
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 04:16 PM   #1333
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Silkway Azerbaijan Cargo B747-8F
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 09:38 PM   #1334
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By the way, Philippine Airlines did actually receiving the last batch of Boeing 747-400 productions. So why did they retire the plane so early?
Those have been used on both short- and long-haul flights, and it was only one of two aircraft allowed to the US when the Philippines was under Category 2 by the United States FAA (the other was the A343). With short-haul flights, you get more flight rotations per day than long-haul trips, hence the number of miles and hours flown in the air add up pretty quickly. And PAL really wanted to swap them for the B77W since the latter is more fuel efficient while carrying similar passenger loads per flight (not to mention, there were 5 of them, with varying number of seats per aircraft, so they wanted some sort of uniformity in terms of maximum seats).
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:21 PM   #1335
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Did they receive the last batch? Airfleets shows that they took delivery of their 744s between 1993 & 1995. They were not the oldest ones still flying around, but certainly not the last batch. With 20 years of flying it was also not really an early retirement.

The main reason for the retirement is of course a restructuring of the fleet, bringing it down to fewer types of aircraft and reducing the overall fleet to a more suitable size for the current and future operations. In other words focusing more on getting profitable instead of just growing and growing.
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PR did not receive the last batch, but their orders were the last on Boeing's books. If I'm not mistaken, Boeing allowed them to convert their orders to 777W, effectively ending the 747-400 program.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 07:34 AM   #1337
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Oh I see. I must have mistaken this. In 2012, one of my friend flew with one of PR Boeing 747-400, and it looks quite new. It turned out that the plane cabin had recently been refurbished with new interior.
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United Airlines B747-400, "Star Alliance signature livery" (reg. N121UA) -- my image (1600px)


DSC00402 by anthonynachor, on Flickr

Right behind the B744 is a Lufthansa A380-800 (reg. D-AIMC)
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 07:59 AM   #1339
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By the way, is that true that all Boeing 747-400 built after 2000 feature LCD screens on their cockpit?
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Lufthansa Boeing 747-8i D-ABYQ departing from Frankfurt:

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