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Old February 15th, 2011, 03:56 PM   #1
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[Slovakia] List of the Tallest Structures

Air traffic obstacle list of Slovakia

On http://aim.lps.sk/eAIP/eAIP_SR/AIRAC...K.html#ENR-5.4 you can download an air traffic obstacle list for Slovakia. A great tool for getting height of structures you have no other sources.

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Old February 15th, 2011, 04:19 PM   #2
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výborne, z toho by sme mohli urobiť zoznam aj s názvami objektov, nech je to viac čitateľné
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Old February 15th, 2011, 04:50 PM   #3
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alebo rovno mapu.
ak by chcel niekto pokracovat, tak je volne editovatelna (dal som tam celu bratislavu): http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...09255&t=h&z=13

neviem ale, nakolko je to aktualne, kedze v tom zozname je este WTF tower a vyska tower 115 je tam uvedena 120m...

EDIT: a ten prvy komin v zozname (v slovnafte) sa mi nepodarilo identifikovat. je tam iba travnik a siroko daleko nic vysoke...
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Old February 15th, 2011, 05:59 PM   #4
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neviem ale, nakolko je to aktualne, kedze v tom zozname je este WTF tower a vyska tower 115 je tam uvedena 120m...
informacie v AIP su vzdy co mozno najaktualnejsie pretoze podla nich sa robia nasledne rucne opravy ICAO map, hlavne pre VFR lietanie. Ak nieco nie je v platnej ICAO mape, tak je to s istotou v AIPe a v nasledujucom vydani ICAO mapy to uz bude zanesene aj do nej. Air navigation obstacles sa nachadzaju v AIPe v zlozke ENR (en-route) zvazok 5.4. Ak si ale vsimnes, tak datum v linku hovori jasne, toto vydanie Leteckych prekazok je z 11.3.2010, cize stare.. Ale pre potreby nejakeho informativneho zaznacenia vysky objektov do google maps si myslim ze to bohate postacuje.

ak by z toho niekto chcel robit samostatnu mapu tak je to zbytocne, staci si za par eur kupit ICAO VFR mapu SR 2011 (teraz niekedy ma vyjst) a tam su vsetky tie prekazky zaznacene..
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Old February 15th, 2011, 06:08 PM   #5
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jasne, to ze nie je najaktualnejsia beriem, ale preco ma v nej potom tower115 120m? NBSka ma napriklad tiez 112m, ale to nie je az taka velka odchylka, mozno sposobena iba inym zaokruhlovanim, ale 5m pri tower115 je podla mna dost.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 06:28 PM   #6
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jasne, to ze nie je najaktualnejsia beriem, ale preco ma v nej potom tower115 120m? NBSka ma napriklad tiez 112m, ale to nie je az taka velka odchylka, mozno sposobena iba inym zaokruhlovanim, ale 5m pri tower115 je podla mna dost.
hm, niesom si isty, ale myslim ze to je kvoli navigacnym svetlam.. ak sa bavime z hladiska architektury, tak sa tam asi taka drobnost do vysky nepocita.. ale v pripade leteckej navigacie sa udava uplne najvyssi bod. popravde, s urcitostou to ale neviem, kazdopadne obstacle list by mal byt uplne presny.. dovod je ten, ze nad mestom sa lieta 1000 feetov nad najvyssim bodom objektu nad ktorym prave letime.. tj. ak ma NBS 111m tak by sme nad nou museli letiet vo vyske cca 1350 feetov. Avsak nemyslim si ze hore dole 5 metrov by bol nejaky zavazny problem. Kazdopadne skusim zistit preco sa lisi vyska udavana v obstacle liste od toho co pozname..
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Old February 16th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #7
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List of tallest structures in Slovakia

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_in_Slovakia you can find a very detailled list of the tallest structures in Slovakia. Please correct and expand it and give the many chimneys in the list the correct names according to the facility they belong to.
Are there really only 4 100m+ wind turbines in Slovakia?
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Old February 16th, 2011, 12:58 PM   #8
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Has someone more information on these towers and chimneys?

The air traffic obstacle list of Slovakia at http://aim.lps.sk/eAIP/eAIP_SR/AIRAC...K.html#ENR-5.4 points someone to some objects, which may have an interesting history:

Radio towers of Jablonica at 48° 37′ 10.11″ N, 17° 20′ 35.18″ E .
Two lattice towers of same height. Picture on http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24755156 . Seem to have carried once a T-antenna. Were they once used for jamming radio signals? Or was it a military facility?

The old chimney of Považská Bystrica Power Station at 49° 6′ 58.93″ N, 18° 25′ 24.19″ E . Picture : http://www.panoramio.com/photo/40797362 .When was it built and when was the power station demolished? Is the chimney still standing?

Then there is the question concerning the largest chimney of Vojany Power Station. According the air traffic obstacle list, it is 200 metres tall. According http://www.industcards.com/st-coal-slovakia.htm it is 300 metres tall. Which value is correct? Was it made taller ( the crane close to the chimney makes this plausible)
Or does the picture on http://www.industcards.com/st-coal-slovakia.htm not show Vojany Power Station? If not, what power station does it show?
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Old February 16th, 2011, 02:36 PM   #9
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Obelixx, can you please stop creating all those threads? Ask your questions regarding tall structures and similar stuff in this thread.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 05:39 PM   #10
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Radio towers of Jablonica at 48° 37′ 10.11″ N, 17° 20′ 35.18″ E .
Two lattice towers of same height. Picture on http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24755156 . Seem to have carried once a T-antenna. Were they once used for jamming radio signals? Or was it a military facility?
It IS a millitary facility, the Záhorie Testing Range, they are used for callibration and spotting, i think.

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On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_in_Slovakia you can find a very detailled list of the tallest structures in Slovakia. Please correct and expand it and give the many chimneys in the list the correct names according to the facility they belong to.
Are there really only 4 100m+ wind turbines in Slovakia?
5. And they are not 100m, but only 75m+rotor. And they are ruining Slovak landscape because they are on the top of the f*cking mountains, because building in the lowlands of Žitný ostrov is too expensive...

And all these dammed structures are ruining Slovak landscape, i cannot believe somebody can love them...
And because of silly Austrians we have to shut down one of our NPP, because they are afraid of radiaton. I would take a hammer and nail that silly activists through their balls on the rotors of the windmills and watch them how they are hanging in the wind.
In 2050 there will be a windmill on each mountain in High Tatras

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Old February 16th, 2011, 06:07 PM   #11
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alebo rovno mapu.
ak by chcel niekto pokracovat, tak je volne editovatelna (dal som tam celu bratislavu): http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...09255&t=h&z=13
Tu musia takisto všetky objekty prevyšovať 100 m ?
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Old February 17th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #12
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East of Snina, there is at 48° 59′ 29.53″ N, 22° 11′ 44.83″ E a 104 metres tall free-standing lattice steel radio tower with hexagonal cross section, which is really rare ( picture: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25653252 ).
When was it built? I believe after the communist era, but I may be wrong.

Waatever your opinion is about the tallest objects in Slovakia, several of them are really remarkable!
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Did Kralova Hola TV Mast once had an observation deck? Or was it just an equipment room?

See: http://www.power.szm.com/historia_03.htm
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Old February 20th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #14
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prstenec na stožiari, ktorý mal slúžiť ako výhliadka

a kaviareň bol neskôr kvôli bezpečnosti demontovaný
The ring on the mast, in which should had been a cafe, was demounted from safety reasons.
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Old February 21st, 2011, 09:10 PM   #15
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Then there is the question concerning the largest chimney of Vojany Power Station. According the air traffic obstacle list, it is 200 metres tall. According http://www.industcards.com/st-coal-slovakia.htm it is 300 metres tall. Which value is correct? Was it made taller ( the crane close to the chimney makes this plausible)
Or does the picture on http://www.industcards.com/st-coal-slovakia.htm not show Vojany Power Station? If not, what power station does it show?
Largest chimney of Vojany PS was shortened from 300m to 175m back in 1998 according to this page (in slovak).
Picture in your post is older. Today are chimneys in Vojany looking like that.
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Largest chimney of Vojany PS was shortened from 300m to 175m back in 1998 according to this page (in slovak).
Picture in your post is older. Today are chimneys in Vojany looking like that.
Why was that? I mean why would they shorten the chimneys? I think the higher the better.
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Why was that? I mean why would they shorten the chimneys? I think the higher the better.
Afaik it's because of cross-border pollution. I heard that issue was that pollution from EVO was drifted as far as to Sweden.
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Higher is not always better. A chimney in Unterbreizbach, Germany ( http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=92141 ) was shortened in 2001 in order to prevent corrosion damage by condensed water. Nevertheless, if no photographs of a structure with exact date are available it is impossible to determine if a structure was made taller or reduced in height.

Was there really a cafe on Kralova Hola TV Mast? Or was it just an equipment room?
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Old February 24th, 2011, 05:53 PM   #19
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There should had been a cafe, isnt it enough for you? If there should had been a cafe, it means it was built as a cafe with all things around it. Why on earth would they store equipment in a cafe? It was demounted because the wind and ice were breaking windows. It would not been demounted if there was an equipment room, dont you think? Just think, man!
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One could also move the equipment into the transmitter building and use longer cables instead, if the equipment room makes trouble on the mast.

Nevertheless, it was the only cafe on a guyed mast I ever heard off and so I had several doubts that it was one!
When was it removed?
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