2012 Olympic Stadium Wrap - Page 2

delores · February 25th, 2011, 11:29 PM

I think once the whole wrap is up it will look very impressive it's hard to see how it will look with just two test strips.

R.K.Teck · February 26th, 2011, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southseasteve

There are brackets at the top of the stadium to allow the installation of a further 6 pieces of fabric wrap, perhaps the trial includes filling these spaces. Then we might be able to see it's effect better.

Each piece is 2.4 metres wide, there are 900m to fill so they need 375 strips of wrap. That's £18,666 per piece of 20 by 2.4 m wrap to make a total cost of £7,000,000. That surely doesn't add up - I can see why they want private money to pay or it!

All we really need is pretty colours during the day, and bright lights at night to keep the Olympic audience happy - it worked with the Water Cube in Beijing!

Anyone else think the wrap looks like the old strip blinds they use in schools?

maddderz · February 26th, 2011, 01:25 PM

What?

my nan would happily sow those strips for a fraction of the price lol. Don't understand why each piece is so expensive?

bertyboy · February 26th, 2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddderz

What?

my nan would happily sow those strips for a fraction of the price lol.

Has she enough space in her garden for them to grow?

Catbot · February 26th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Cost perhaps includes research, manufacture, fitting and lighting?

DarJoLe · February 26th, 2011, 10:05 PM

And a whole host of administration and delivery costs no-one thinks about when they add up these things?

bertyboy · February 27th, 2011, 12:08 AM

And the fact that when businesses know it's for the Olympics, they double the cost and add a bit.

delores · February 27th, 2011, 01:27 AM

pretty much what's happened with all the buildings for 2012 every so slightly overpriced.

Core Rising · February 27th, 2011, 01:42 PM

There is a reason for it actually. When firms enter the bidding process in anything in the olympics, be it for buildings such as the velodrome or the stadium wrap, it costs them all money just to bid. This can be ALOT as they have to spend quite a bit on marketing and getting the best quality design. And what is unique about this situation is that the govenment pays them back all the money they spent in bidding if they unsuccessful, PLUS a commission. Thus, any firm that bids for anything both stands to make a profit, whether they win or lose, AND they don't feel the need to skimp at all on the cost of their bids as they know that they will make any money they spend back, and some. This is one of the big reasons for excess costs in the olympics. No other time does a firm bid for a project and get reimbursed should they lose a bid, let alone get commission for just bidding. Knowing all this, it wouldn't supprise me if say one or two of the seven million pound cost of the stadium wrap was actually all spent on the bidding process. Hope that clears things up for you guys.

jerseyboi · March 15th, 2011, 12:11 PM

jerseyboi · April 6th, 2011, 08:47 PM

about the Wrap...... from bdonline

Smallhorn is also collaborating on the hotly contested and highly secretive “wrap”, the long vertical fins of PVC fabric that will be suspended behind the diagonal columns, white on the outside and coloured to match the spectrum within. Twisted 90 degrees along their length, they will signal the entrances and also mask the exposed undercroft, although there is a danger that they will detract from the current crisp clarity of the white steel picked out against the darker interior. Momentarily banished by budget cuts, the wrap has since been reinstated through private sponsorship by Locog, the agency responsible for dressing the park – and in fact the city itself – in the official “look of the games”, a cacophony of fluorescent shards. To her credit, Smallhorn has somehow tamed the brash brand identity into a surprisingly successful treatment.

Read more: http://www.bdonline.co.uk/buildings/...#ixzz1IloFW8nW
BDonline.co.uk

RobH · April 6th, 2011, 09:43 PM

Yay!!

So this isn't just a trial wrap?

HeartDeco · April 6th, 2011, 10:43 PM

RobH · April 6th, 2011, 10:57 PM

the wrap came back, the wrap came back —thought it were a goner,
But the wrap came back for it wouldn't stay awaaaaay.

R.K.Teck · April 6th, 2011, 11:03 PM

Woo!!!

wawd · April 7th, 2011, 11:10 AM

taken 20th March, note the writing at the top of the leftmost fin:
image hosted on flickr

R.K.Teck · April 7th, 2011, 08:14 PM

So what does the text say? It's hard to read from the photos.

.............safe?
h............safe?

maddderz · April 7th, 2011, 08:20 PM

I thought it said soft? But looks more like safe

TheWalker · April 7th, 2011, 09:24 PM

It is cool though the way that it twists, good for light effects

RobH · April 7th, 2011, 09:35 PM

A message from daveypodmore over at Gamesbids:

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveypodmore over at Gamesbids.com

Can anyone that posts on skyscrapercity.com tell them this is what the wrap says. Its the same written at the top and bottom. It makes no sense really but there you go

February 26th, 2011, 10:05 PM	#26
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April 7th, 2011, 08:14 PM	#37
R.K.Teck The Hydro Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,667 Likes (Received): 57	So what does the text say? It's hard to read from the photos. .............safe? h............safe? __________________ __ 2 0 2 0 1 2 1 2 2 0 2 0 1 2 1 2 London Calling! ___________________ V&A Museum. Dundee Waterfront. Kengo Kuma. 2015 Jute, Jam, Journalism... and Japanese Award Winning Architecture. _________________________________

February 25th, 2011, 11:29 PM	#21
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	I think once the whole wrap is up it will look very impressive it's hard to see how it will look with just two test strips.

February 26th, 2011, 01:25 PM	#23
maddderz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	What? my nan would happily sow those strips for a fraction of the price lol. Don't understand why each piece is so expensive?

February 26th, 2011, 03:44 PM	#25
Catbot Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 46 Likes (Received): 0	Cost perhaps includes research, manufacture, fitting and lighting?

February 27th, 2011, 12:08 AM	#27
bertyboy Resident Ignoramus Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 2,818 Likes (Received): 107	And the fact that when businesses know it's for the Olympics, they double the cost and add a bit.

February 27th, 2011, 01:27 AM	#28
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	pretty much what's happened with all the buildings for 2012 every so slightly overpriced.

February 27th, 2011, 01:42 PM	#29
Core Rising Ampersands & What Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/ Nottingham Posts: 4,832	There is a reason for it actually. When firms enter the bidding process in anything in the olympics, be it for buildings such as the velodrome or the stadium wrap, it costs them all money just to bid. This can be ALOT as they have to spend quite a bit on marketing and getting the best quality design. And what is unique about this situation is that the govenment pays them back all the money they spent in bidding if they unsuccessful, PLUS a commission. Thus, any firm that bids for anything both stands to make a profit, whether they win or lose, AND they don't feel the need to skimp at all on the cost of their bids as they know that they will make any money they spend back, and some. This is one of the big reasons for excess costs in the olympics. No other time does a firm bid for a project and get reimbursed should they lose a bid, let alone get commission for just bidding. Knowing all this, it wouldn't supprise me if say one or two of the seven million pound cost of the stadium wrap was actually all spent on the bidding process. Hope that clears things up for you guys.

April 6th, 2011, 10:43 PM	#33
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April 6th, 2011, 10:57 PM	#34
RobH SPURRED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London / Kent Posts: 8,426 Likes (Received): 165	the wrap came back, the wrap came back —thought it were a goner, But the wrap came back for it wouldn't stay awaaaaay.

April 7th, 2011, 08:20 PM	#38
maddderz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	I thought it said soft? But looks more like safe

April 7th, 2011, 09:24 PM	#39
TheWalker TheWalker Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 292 Likes (Received): 1	It is cool though the way that it twists, good for light effects

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