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Old March 13th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #121
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Central Govt , it seems has not given sanction to many of the Solar power plant proposals from TN.

Without the central subsidy (which is almost 50%), no pvt player will come forward to put up solar plants in TN.

TN Govt should enact in a Solar Policy similar to that of Gujarat & Karnataka and force the centre with a TINA factor.

CG is being very biased against TN.

Unless the central subsidy is given, JJ's dream of 1000 MW from Solar will remain a pipe dream.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #122
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Government working on fund for financing renewable energy

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The government is working on an infrastructure fund for renewable energy and other power sectors, a top official of Indian Renewable Energy Development Agency (IREDA) said.

The government was "seized" of the issue of creating a financial instrument for financing renewable energy and other power sectors, IREDA Chairman and Managing Director Debashish Majumdar said at a conference here.

The request for the fund was made by IREDA, established under the Ministry of New and Renewable Energy, he said.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #123
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Power min says TN needs central funds

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"The Centre announced last year that 200MW would be generated under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission. Tamil Nadu was asked to generate only 7MW of the target. This year, the government has announced generation of 1,000MW, but we have been asked to generate only 22 MW."

Viswanathan said that though Tamil Nadu has potential for solar energy, the Union government had allocated it a meagre share of the project outlay. He also asked the Centre to encourage investors to set up more solar plants in the state.
Looks like CG has a very pathetic target and within that TN is getting a meagre share
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Old March 13th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #124
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Idea!

Our folks in Politics are very enterprising in mobilising funds.. JJ should ask all her 34 Ministers to set up a 10 MW Solar Power Plant in their Constituencies, to start with.. in six months.

340 MWs ready.

Now,JJ should review the performance of these Solar plants and if satisfied should ask all her other MLAs to set up 10 MWs plants in their constituencies.

112*10=1120 MWs ready in another six months.

Total :: 1460 MWs in one year.

Extend the scheme to all Mayors, Municipal Chairmen, Union Chairmen and Panchayat Presidents...2-5 Mws plants.

Total numbers...?

Very much a possible suggestion..JJ are you listening?
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #125
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Idea!

Our folks in Politics are very enterprising in mobilising funds.. JJ should ask all her 34 Ministers to set up a 10 MW Solar Power Plant in their Constituencies, to start with.. in six months.

340 MWs ready.

Now,JJ should review the performance of these Solar plants and if satisfied should ask all her other MLAs to set up 10 MWs plants in their constituencies.

112*10=1120 MWs ready in another six months.

Total :: 1460 MWs in one year.

Extend the scheme to all Mayors, Municipal Chairmen, Union Chairmen and Panchayat Presidents...2-5 Mws plants.

Total numbers...?

Very much a possible suggestion..JJ are you listening?
this is nice execution path..if it is given this way.how much money it will be to have 1MW?

our ministers not even pay for their Toll bill for their allaikai's vehicles.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #126
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Idea!

Our folks in Politics are very enterprising in mobilising funds.. JJ should ask all her 34 Ministers to set up a 10 MW Solar Power Plant in their Constituencies, to start with.. in six months.

340 MWs ready.

Now,JJ should review the performance of these Solar plants and if satisfied should ask all her other MLAs to set up 10 MWs plants in their constituencies.

112*10=1120 MWs ready in another six months.

Total :: 1460 MWs in one year.

Extend the scheme to all Mayors, Municipal Chairmen, Union Chairmen and Panchayat Presidents...2-5 Mws plants.

Total numbers...?

Very much a possible suggestion..JJ are you listening?
Nice intent.. bit over simplified. But something along these lines can be done to infuse competition amongst sleepy ministers to do proactive service to constituencies.. Given our guys mentality, can only lead to more infighting and corruption..

JJ must definitely cultivate some strong second and third tier leadership.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #127
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Tamil Nadu still a big draw for wind power developers
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...ue&ref=wl_home

Chennai, March 13:

For wind power developers, the first choice still remains Tamil Nadu. Get your evacuation lines in place, we will invest, they say.

Several wind power companies that participated in Renergy 2012, a renewable energy event organised by the Tamilnadu Energy Development Agency, have said that despite having 6,300 MW of wind power capacity – about 40 per cent of the total installed capacity in the country – Tamil Nadu has still a lot of good sites to offer.

The CLP India's Senior Vice President – Finance, Mr Hemant Joshi, told Business Line today that once the evacuation infrastructure is in place, the company would come back to Tamil Nadu.

The Hong Kong-based CLP India, which is incidentally the largest foreign investor in India's power sector, has 99 MW of wind assets in Theni, Tamil Nadu. The company wanted to add capacity here, but power evacuation issues have caused the company to wait and watch.

A similar view was expressed by Mr Sunil Jain, Chief Operating Officer, Green Infra, a major player in the renewable energy sector in India. Tamil Nadu is “very, very attractive” he said, noting that there was still a huge potential for putting up wind farms.

Manikaran Power is yet another company which is planning a major push into the renewable energy sector, with plans for 500 MW of wind assets. Choice One: Tamil Nadu — for a 25 MW plant. However, the company's Executive Director, Mr Pravin Abraham, says that it needs some comfort in terms of transmission.

Manikaran is in talks with Gamesa for purchase of the latter's machines. Gamesa is said to have met with success in securing an approval from the Tamil Nadu authorities to put up its own sub-stations. Once, Gamesa is able to put up a 400-kVa sub-station, it might be possible to hook it up with the Power Grid Corporation of India's lines, industry observers say.

In spite of short-term challenges in Tamil Nadu that include evacuation and delays in payment, the State continues to be an attractive proposition for wind farms. This is because the State still has some of the best wind sites. Further, the developers and turbine manufacturers have acquired sites in Tamil Nadu based on resource assessment potential. The progressive regulations of the state including group captive model continues to attract investors and developers for whom Tamil Nadu continues to remain an attractive proposition, says Mr Vineeth Vijayaraghavan, Founder and Editor of Panchabuta, an online renewable energy newsletter.

Mr D.V. Giri, Secretary-General, Indian Wind Turbine Manufacturers' Association, said that Tamil Nadu was good in terms of land acquisition too.

Speaking at a panel discussion at Renergy 2012, both Mr Giri and Mr Sunil Jain of Green Infra, said that land acquisition was the easiest in Rajasthan. They said that while Tamil Nadu was okay, Maharashtra and Karnataka were pretty bad.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 10:16 AM   #128
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@ Leo:

Hilarious and with good intent.

But Solar & Wind plants can not be put up anywhere & everywhere and designated areas are only recommended. Depends on Sun Radiation Level & Wind speed.

CG may derail the TN Govt's plan of going for Solar in a big way simply by refusing the JNSSM subsidy.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #129
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Greening TN's industrial economy, the CII way

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Pollution tax for polluters? Incentives for green products? And lower property tax for green buildings?

These are some of the ideas mooted at a recent meeting by the Confederation of Indian Industry and industry partners. Can some these ideas find shape in the future as Tamil Nadu seeks to become a green industrial economy?

CII's Tamil Nadu chapter is working with the Madras School of Economics on a project to help industries reduce green house gas emissions and carbon footprint. CII will also seek the association of the Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation in the project.

Mr N.K. Ranganath, Chairman, CII Tamil Nadu, said: “The biggest generator of green house gas in the State is power generation. Tamil Nadu, being a highly industrialised State, stands number 2 in vehicle pollution and number 4 in green house gas intensity in the country. While shortage of power has made our industries innovative and energy efficient, the industry needs to be proactive and not reactive.”

The project will dip into UKFCO's $10-billion global funding meant primarily for developing nations. “We will also look into international funds for mitigation of climate issues.”

A high-level steering committee comprising senior government officials from power, environment, renewable energy departments will be formed. The committee will identify industries that require priority and come out with findings and recommendations on policies, incentives, taxes and other fiscal instruments, cost-benefit analysis, implementation strategies and monitoring.

The first of the meetings were held on Wednesday between CII and representatives from companies such as Tata Consultancy, Nissan, ABB, Chennai Petrochemicals, Wheels India, and consultants from KPMG and Ernst & Young. Proposals ranged from loading non-green practices with taxes and incentivising green products to differential pricing for government tenders with greater price offered to green products.

CII will hold talks with the State Government next, by March-end. A study on carbon footprint in Tamil Nadu will be released soon.

West Bengal and Odisha have already taken a lead in this and recently came out with several recommendations. The Tamil Nadu project is expected to come out with recommendations by October 2012.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #130
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@ Leo:

CG may derail the TN Govt's plan of going for Solar in a big way simply by refusing the JNSSM subsidy.
so its going to be Solar Vs Nuclear

You lift the ban, i will give u subsidy.
no no, you give subsidy, i will lift the ban.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:49 PM   #131
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so its going to be Solar Vs Nuclear

You lift the ban, i will give u subsidy.
no no, you give subsidy, i will lift the ban.
In either case, since its TN.. we will do nothing.. CG
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Old March 15th, 2012, 04:41 AM   #132
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In either case, since its TN.. we will do nothing.. CG
decentralize is the trump card.

like the groundwater harvesting, every person in rent or owning a house should be mandated to produce atleast 1 KWH using wind or solar or pay a hefty electricity bill. for violators, the first few KWH-s of daily consumption must come at a 6x cost. in otherwords, no carrots only stick. we are already giving too much carrot alvaas to the folks in selling power for such a fraction of what it costs. still better, a grading/slab system for quantifying KWH of self-production based on the current consumption, say if < 4 KWH/day => produce atleast 1 KWH so on.

if such a mandate come to effect, then solutions will fall in place. houses in a colony can cluster, apartments in a building will have to cluster, commercial places must be knocked down if they don't comply.

when it comes to sun and wind power, mass holds the key. instead of looking for govt. subsidies - if we put such seemingly "brutal" law into effect, the economies of scale will kick in and the prices will come down. the solution may sound too simplified, but the human ingenuity will find its way to achieve it..the survival game.

if you want to harvest renewable energy why not target the whole footprint of its availability.

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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:43 AM   #133
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SunEdison's 100-kW unit rises on StanChart rooftop

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle3013263.ece

SunEdision has put up a 100-kW solar plant on roof of building of Scope International in Chennai. Scope is Standard Chartered Bank's captive BPO and its headquarters is in Chennai.

Spread over 20,000 sq ft of roof space, the plant uses 875 solar panels and will generate 3 million units of electricity over the next 20 years, enough to power 40 average Indian homes annually.

This is the first commercial rooftop solar project, SunEdison India's Managing Director, Mr Pasupathy Gopalan, said on Monday, meaning that the Scope building will consume the energy produced on its rooftop, paying a price for it. SunEdison has not disclosed the price, but said it was the first commercial PPA rooftop in the country.

The entire project was completed in three months. SunEdison is in talks with other prospects for similar rooftop projects.
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Report advocates renewable energy strategy for State

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Energy and power-related sources account for over 75 per cent of the emissions in Tamil Nadu and it is imperative for the State to adopt an overall renewable energy strategy to reduce the carbon intensity of power generation and lower its overall emission footprint, states a report on Tamil Nadu's carbon footprint.

Prepared by the Confederation of Indian Industry-Sohrabji Godrej Green Building Centre, the report is aimed at helping the State government know its overall position, pattern of emissions and use it as a basis to attain low carbon growth for the future.

Giving the details of the report, CII-Godrej GBC principal counsellor, K.S. Venkatagiri, said Tamil Nadu's carbon footprint indicated a total greenhouse gas emission of 111.86 million tonnes during 2009-10, with energy sector accounting for 76 per cent, followed by industries and agriculture.

Some of the key recommendations of the study include: adopting voluntary renewable power obligation targets; creation of green fund and supporting the State's climate mitigation efforts; establishing a power plant refurbishment fund; charging a fuel cess of Rs.0.25 per litre on both diesel and petrol and utilising it for funding bio-fuel research and supporting technology absorption.
A green cess to support the public transportation system; a clean energy cess to promote non-fossil fuel based energy; co-processing of industrial, municipal and other combustible wastes in cement kilns; adoption of green buildings in residential and commercial space; and demand side management in agricultural pump sets, water and crop management are other recommendations.
“In line with the national commitment of reducing emissions intensity by 20 to 25 per cent of 2005 levels by 2020, this study explored possible options to help the state to achieve similar emissions intensity reduction. Based on the mitigation options identified, an emissions intensity reduction of 20 to 25 per cent by 2020 for Tamil Nadu looks feasible,” he said.

Delivering the inaugural address at a conference on ‘Corporate sustainability', Principal Secretary, Environment, C.V. Sankar said here on Monday that Tamil Nadu was drafting its own action plan on climate change and had initiated discussions at various levels.

“This will make Tamil Nadu ready for carbon constraint and make the State an attractive green investment destination both nationally and internationally. As in many other areas, Tamil Nadu can take the lead and show the world how sustainable models such as reuse and recycling, though well-known concepts, could be put into practice,” he said.

He also said Tamil Nadu had embarked on a massive tree plantation drive with an ambitious target of taking the forest and tree cover of the State to 33 per cent of the land area from the present 21.8 per cent.
Source: The Hindu, Chennai edition, dated 20-Mar-2012
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Today, there was the news on Thiruvannamalai school being punished by TANGEDCO for using Solar energy instead of EB power.
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Today, there was the news on Thiruvannamalai school being punished by TANGEDCO for using Solar energy instead of EB power.
That was a Comedy piece

Due to the use of solar power, their electricity bills became very low. The EB then accused them of using faulty meter or something like that and imposed a hefty fine.
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@ Leo:

Hilarious and with good intent.

But Solar & Wind plants can not be put up anywhere & everywhere and designated areas are only recommended. Depends on Sun Radiation Level & Wind speed.

CG may derail the TN Govt's plan of going for Solar in a big way simply by refusing the JNSSM subsidy.
but out of 140 odd MLA seats, atleast 80% may qualify.

For me it is looking as great idea. But again funds would be problem..

112*10 = 1120 MW * 10 crores = 11200 crores.

4yrs before it was 21crores per MW and now it is 10 crores per MW and I guess by 2016 it would be 3-4 crores per MW.

IMHO, state gvt can form a separate renewable resource ministry for power and concentrate more on this. (namma Tshyam ku special post athula )
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but out of 140 odd MLA seats, atleast 80% may qualify.

For me it is looking as great idea. But again funds would be problem..

112*10 = 1120 MW * 10 crores = 11200 crores.

4yrs before it was 21crores per MW and now it is 10 crores per MW and I guess by 2016 it would be 3-4 crores per MW.

IMHO, state gvt can form a separate renewable resource ministry for power and concentrate more on this. (namma Tshyam ku special post athula )
I can take a joke, but seriously?!! .. trusting a strategic cum moral climatic responsibility to MLAs! c'mon guys, its like giving your atm card & pin to the looters and asking for accountability. ofcourse, they will rape and plunder... thats their birthright. all you will see is a big pole with a smooth glass for a PV panel.. and they will call that the phaseI.

power be to the people. lets petition AMMA for a per-capita-kilo-watt-harvesting ... the current residential per-kw quotes are all so made-up .. a careful customer can already easily make it the fraction of what it is. and, the private enterprises will drive the market forces in the right direction.
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I can take a joke, but seriously?!! .. trusting a strategic cum moral climatic responsibility to MLAs! c'mon guys, its like giving your atm card & pin to the looters and asking for accountability. ofcourse, they will rape and plunder... thats their birthright. all you will see is a big pole with a smooth glass for a PV panel.. and they will call that the phaseI.

power be to the people. lets petition AMMA for a per-capita-kilo-watt-harvesting ... the current residential per-kw quotes are all so made-up .. a careful customer can already easily make it the fraction of what it is. and, the private enterprises will drive the market forces in the right direction.
The idea is
Govt is not providing funds.

MLAs have to spend from their pocket.
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I can take a joke, but seriously?!! .. trusting a strategic cum moral climatic responsibility to MLAs! c'mon guys, its like giving your atm card & pin to the looters and asking for accountability. ofcourse, they will rape and plunder... thats their birthright. all you will see is a big pole with a smooth glass for a PV panel.. and they will call that the phaseI.

power be to the people. lets petition AMMA for a per-capita-kilo-watt-harvesting ... the current residential per-kw quotes are all so made-up .. a careful customer can already easily make it the fraction of what it is. and, the private enterprises will drive the market forces in the right direction.
It should be made in such a way that they have show 10*5*300 = 15000 MWh or 1.5 crore units per year per MLA. If they miss the target by more than say 20%, adutha thadava MLA seat kedayathu.

Surely even our resourceful MLA's cant produce current with just glass panels. So all the amma vasis will implement them properly and with fear.
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