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![]() Well, as part of resolving disputes between KSRTC and VMH, a meeting has been called by Transport Minister on Oct 31st for discussing various proposals. VMH's one of strong proposal is either allow all buses to pass in both places, the main bus station and VMH or divert 50% of bus from KSRTC and remaining from VMH. Well the main concern is a few officials and unions are damn against using VMH at night and hijacked the proposal right from day one. Its under this scenairo the discussions are happening. While the main suggestions 1. Allow all buses to go via both Central Station and VMH Under this, buses from Northern parts, enter the city via Edapally Byepass, enter into Hub and further proceed to Central Bus station via SA Road, MG Road and from there proceed to West Kochi via MG Road itself Bus from south enter first Bus station and from there proceed to VMH via SA Road and from VMH it will go south via Byepass. However the concern is the bus will ignore Palarivatom-Edapally-Kaloor side completely and if to cater them, it will create more distance to run 2. Allow half buses to run only to Bus stand and remaining half to VMH In such case, people will get confused which bus goes where and ends up in public anger, which is the main arguement of KSRTC. --------------------- In meantime, KSRTC General Manager ruled out any night service/circular buses for the city. It seems its part of lobbies against Kochi and its growth.... While Dr. Beena, the MD of VMH said she has taken into consideration what Mathrubhumi and Manorama suggested to her as route proposals and will present the case as alternate proposals. ------------------------------ The best thing is to remove the useless MD at helm and making someone strong and powerful like Beena or IG Sen or Siby Mathew at Helm who is capable to deciding based on today's and tommorrow's growth, rather than interests for few Sari shops and tea stalls!!!!
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It is time to buy a tonne of Santhosh Brahmi (ayurvedic brain stimulant) and give to these morons!!
EVERY bus that go via bypass is saving 16 running kilometres. That saving is more than enough means to run circular city buses. Still KSRTC is claiming it is facing losses!! KSRTC have hundreds of buses lying around during nights. Still they claim that buses are not availlable to run the night services!! Every bus that go via bypass is saving at least half hour staff time. Still, KSRTC is claiming that there is no staff!! And the GM claims that he is concerned about passenger convenience. Taking every long distance passengers via the city, losing more than half an hour is very convenient according to the GM!! No wonder the White Elephant is dying!! |
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Well said.The issue here is not lossing passenger's . Once VMH becomes fully operational for KSRTC , passengers would obviously come (Allathe ellavarum train pidichu pokathilla). KSRTC is more worried abt the traders in the station .
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It is 9 Km difference not 16. But sure it is not half an hour, a passenger can save at least one hour in peak time if the bus passes through Vyttila, IF and only IF he is a pass through passenger . And most of the passengers are NOT.
Most of the buses have a 12 hrs schedule,365 days, so they need rest and maintenance. And most of the drivers and conductors need enough rest after 4-5 continuous duties. And None of the pass though buses and its employers belongs to EKM depot, so they need new buses and new employees for running circular buses. Am I right???? If a long distance passenger has to ride in the red crap city buses for half an hour to reach his hotel/office/business/market/Railway with all his luggage and belongings and without having a seat, I don’t think it will be convenient for him. Does it to anyone? My Conclusion: Since, Vyttila is congested and less connected to suburbs, Vyttila re-routing of long distance buses will be worth only for pass through passengers. So, ONLY the pass through buses can be re-routed. Quote:
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RKPV, Google Maps tell me the distance between Edapally And Aroor via the bus route is around 34km, and via bypass it is 18km. Hence the 16km number.
I am demanding only pass through buses use bypass, and not go via the city. The buses terminating at Ernakulam can still be operated from the current KSRTC stand. Quote:
We are talking about just 8 buses running during night. Please don't tell me that all the buses are so tightly being used, that you can't allocate 8 buses. Also, I am not asking the staff from other units to operate the city buses. The point is there will be net reduction in staff utilization, which could be used for the additional services. |
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Please check google maps , it is 22.5 kms + 1 km for KSRTC Stand. And through bypass it is 17kms.
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In an ideal world, long distance busses touching VMH and feeder busses serving different parts of the city round the clock makes sense, but the ground realities are far from ideal, and this makes re-routing services to touch both VHM and Central station as the only workable solution, at least for the time being. (I would prefer these busses to turn from Medical Trust Jn without going all the way to the central station though - that will take off about 4 kms from the long route). On a related note, Kochi is not the only place where long distance busses enter the city rather than use the byepass. For example, busses passing through Trichur follow a equally long snake route to touch the central station rather than halt at Mannuthy to let off and take in Trichur based passengers. Again, it is true many cities (such as Chennai, Madurai etc) have build central bus stations nearer to the highway and outside the city core, but other cities (such as Coimbatore, Bangalore) continue to develop their bus stations in the heart of the city. My point is, VMH has its uses (just as the various satellite bus stands at Bangalore have their uses) but it is not advisable to insist that all busses should base from here; at least now. In future, after Vytilla gets flyovers, public transport in the city improve (with hopefully a SPV launched to run JNURM busses) to ensure reliable night time services, the metro taking concrete shape and other developments, VMH can indeed become the main hub for bus operations in Kochi. |
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I feel the current problems can be solved only if an SPV is formed, not just to handle buses alone, but it should intergrated transport services for the city, just like how RTA works for Dubai City.... Even Metro can come under it.
Only then, multi-modal transportation works out and issues between multiple agencies be sorted out. Else it will continue forever. If we settle KSRTC-VMH, the next big crisis is going to come in form of State Water Transport Corporation and Kochi City Corporation sponsored CATS..... Imagine, they are going to launch water metro without any coordination with bus timings and in future metro timings.... Things will go erratic. As Sir said, KSRTC is highly unreliable organization. It will end up like a convoy if not done properly. A joint company with Govt, Cochin Cochin Corporation, KSRTC, STWD, KTDC and even public like in CIAL's model will be helpful to solve the transport crisis forever.....
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My campaign for cost comparison of running the buses via bypass has found some traction. Today's Manorama picked it up with the numbers.
![]() Night buses via hub: No extra expenses. It shows that moving the long distance buses via the hub will in fact be profitable to KSRTC. |
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Now a days we had enough pulp fiction in some local city pages.
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KSRTC passengers going to have a Kochi Darshan Sightseeing, due to its stubborn stand of not using VMH at night From Thursday onwards, no vehicles have been allowed to use North ROB from midnight onwards, due to full scale work going on there. Since works of Chitoor road and other side roads are progressing at night, buses are also not allowed to use Pullepady ROB too. As a result, buses coming from Northern sides, need to take diversion from Kaloor to reach Kadavanthara and need to travel to Bus station via South and MG Road. The same process gets repeated, increasing the number of KM to be run and causing much anger by public against KSRTC to making them tour around the city due to their stubbornness. Whereas only half of the existing KMs to be run required, if instead of Station, Hub is used.... This matter will be highlighted in the meeting soon...
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1. The works on Chittoor Road (Kacheripady - KSRTC stretch) and the side roads have already been completed long ago 2. Even when busses come via North ROB the same Chittoor Road is used. Rather, if Pulleppady ROB is used, the busses can enter the KSRTC station straight via CP Ummer Road without going anywhere near Chittoor Road! Quote:
2. The "much anger by public against KSRTC" is relative, depending on the person. Someone traveling from say Trichur to Trivandrum will have a reason to be angry, but for a good number of people staying in Kochi (people staying at Kaloor, Ernakulam City, North Kochi (Pachalam-Vadathala-Chittoor), Goshree Islands, West Kochi etc), the much anger will come if KSRTC shifts to VMH without touching the present route. Considering that the Bye Pass VMH route is a "new" privilege, it cannot be offered by snatching away the privilege enjoyed by others. That will only serve to exemplify the adage "Robbing Peter to pay Paul." Only after fool-proof arrangements to ensure people on the existing route get their due can the new privilege be introduced. Last edited by vu3nnn; October 29th, 2011 at 09:14 PM. |
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How many people actually use this 'privilege'? Very few, as per a sample survey done by Manorama.
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CM Ommen Chandy is intervening into the KSRTC-VMH Tussle, after realization the gravity of the incident. The meeting called by Transport Minister Shivakumar tomorrow is now postponed to Wednesday to allow CM to head the meeting and sort out the differences. Since KSRTC and the department is sticking to its stubborness, there was an active pressure from Public seeking for CM's intervention. District Collector Sheikh Pareek, Ministers Babu, Ibrahimkunju, MLAs like Benny Behanan, Dominic, Hibi Eden, Mobility Hub MD Beena and Mayor Chammany will attend the meeting.
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Well, the standoff between VMH-KSRTC may turn into a blessing in disguise, with now cries for Unified Transport Authority being raised. Perhaps, if the momentum is kept, Kochi will have its own Dubai kind of RTA for the city
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The Vytilla Mobility Hub Society (VMHS) has informed that Chief Minister, Oomen Chandy will convene a meeting to end impasse over operating Kerala State Road Transport Corporation (KSRTC) services through the terminal on round-the-clock basis.
The Chief Minister will hold discussions with Minister for Transport, V S Shivakumar and other senior officials from KSRTC and VMHS at Thrivananthapuram on Wednesday. "It is brought to the attention of the ministers the importance of the hub in easing traffic congestion in the city, particularly in the wake of dismantling the North Railway Overbridge," said Dr M Beena, Managing Director, VMHS. KSRTC has refused to re-direct buses through the hub after 8 pm stating that it would isolate the city and cause inconvenience to passengers. Though the idea of operating additional feeder services connecting the city and terminal was mooted, the corporation maintained that they would consider the option depending on demand and passenger patronage. KSRTC officials maintain that commuters to West Kochi, Ernakulam Town Railway Station and Ernakulam Junction Railway Station will be heavily affected by the change. "The commuters to Aroor, Edakochi and Thoppumpady areas will also find it difficult if all the long distance KSRTC buses are made to operate through the Mobility Hub after 8 pm," said P L Jose, KSRTC, Ernakulam Zonal Officer. For ensuring optimum utilisation of facilities at terminal, it was suggested to operate part of night services through the hub and the rest through the bus station at south. KSRTC has pointed the absence of garage and fuelling facilities at the hub as major reasons for refraining from operating services through the hub during night hours. Currently long distance superfast and other high end services pass through Vytilla terminal between 8.00 am and 8.00 pm. Private buses which operate services to neighbouring states, Tamil Nadu State Road Transport Corporation and Karnataka State Road Transport Corporation have expressed willingness to operate from the hub. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/10581301.cms
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Mayor Speaks!
The Govt. has taken a favourable stand on KSRTC night service in Kochi city through Vyttila mobility hub. KSRTC is getting 100 new buses in the next 6 months,which will facilitate the night service.The Govt. has asked Vyttila mobility hub society MD,Transport secretary & KSRTC MD to report in a week,how best the present facilities in the mobility hub can be used for city service. In the meeting with Chief Minister Sri. Oommen Chandy, i made a suggestion to upgrade the Vyttila mobility hub society into Unified Metropolitan Transport Authority, which will take care of all means of transportation in the city including the metro rail. Source: FB/Tony Chammany
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Government with Public Opinion
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Metropolitan Transport Authority for Kochi
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Currently, the decisions on the transportation are taken by KSRTC at the capital. The Metropolitan Transport Authority will be able to manage the bus routes as needed. |
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