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Old March 8th, 2015, 10:23 PM   #41
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San Fransisco is getting these for a Diesel line North of the city...




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Old March 8th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #42
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And they still look at least 15 years old
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Old March 8th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #43
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@BriedisUnIzlietne;
I don't think fire will help against that beast...

And I love Alstom's designs. I think the AGV is by far the best looking HST, even better than the Velaro.

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I'm unsure if the US could design a good looking passenger train. American design is generally massive, rough and strong looking, whereas European design is generally sleek, fast and agile looking (not just for trains). It works very well for the American freight trains, but I'm unsure if it could work for MUs.
In any case, US designers have been out of the game so long that I wouldn't expect to see anything new in the passenger department for a long time. Unless of course they started buying foreign technology.
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Old March 8th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #44
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And they still look at least 15 years old
Toronto piggybacked off there order for their Airport Express train...


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Old March 8th, 2015, 11:10 PM   #45
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We do use these in South Jersey for Tram-Train Service


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Old March 8th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #46
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@BriedisUnIzlietne;
I don't think fire will help against that beast...

And I love Alstom's designs. I think the AGV is by far the best looking HST, even better than the Velaro.

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I'm unsure if the US could design a good looking passenger train. American design is generally massive, rough and strong looking, whereas European design is generally sleek, fast and agile looking (not just for trains). It works very well for the American freight trains, but I'm unsure if it could work for MUs.
In any case, US designers have been out of the game so long that I wouldn't expect to see anything new in the passenger department for a long time. Unless of course they started buying foreign technology.
I heard Stradler was looking to open a plant in the US...
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Old March 8th, 2015, 11:13 PM   #47
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I tried to upgrade the design
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I tried to upgrade the design
Looks sleek and sexy..., you even got rid of the ugly doors..
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We do use these in South Jersey for Tram-Train Service


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A European main line DMU used a tram
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Yeah truely bizar. They do the same thing in Austin:


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I heard Stradler was looking to open a plant in the US...
It is still a European company building European trains. I really wouldn't expect a modern indigenous passenger train design, unless some really money is poured into passenger rail.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:51 PM   #51
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Hopefully Stadler can use it's experience to prove to the FRA that it's MU's can share tracks safely with US locomotives... We have both in Estonia... old and heavy US locomotives sharing the railroads with new and light FLIRT MU's....
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Hopefully Stadler can use it's experience to prove to the FRA that it's MU's can share tracks safely with US locomotives... We have both in Estonia... old and heavy US locomotives sharing the railroads with new and light FLIRT MU's....
Theres a lot of countries with lighter rolling stock and heavy freight trains... I don't understand why this country has held off on changing the regulations for so long.
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A European main line DMU used a tram
Only 2 miles of 34 miles is tram track , the rest is like regional rail.

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Theres a lot of countries with lighter rolling stock and heavy freight trains... I don't understand why this country has held off on changing the regulations for so long.
Because the USA has a lot of dark territories, where those other countries have ATC/ATS systems making it much less likely for those trains to come into contact with each other. And it also seems that freight trains in the USA that are fitted with an ATC system it usually only acts as a warning system, because the engineers fear a system that can actually execute a brake penalty can cause runaways on long descends, because freight trains in the USA still only have one pipe braking systems.
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Because the USA has a lot of dark territories.
But are there still that many non-signalled lines with passenger traffic ?

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Why "still" ? Isn't that also the case everywhere in the world ?
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Only 2 miles of 34 miles is tram track , the rest is like regional rail.

Does it use un-welded rails all the way? O_O
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I'd rather ask: why does it use un-welded rails at all?
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Its just in the street running sections and i'm not sure why.
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Welcome to USA more bigger it's better.
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The new Toronto train looks like a 1970s Winnebago RV/motorhome.

Especially with the paint job.
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