IAD and DCA Airport News and Developments

[shakman]

I have a feeling I may the only one posting on this thread. I am NOT starting this thread to compete and put down BWI. I think all three airports should be represented on this sub-form since the other two airports are in the area which is covered under this sub-forum. Periodically, there is news on routes and construction for both IAD and DCA.

A good way to start off would be post the "D2" development at Dulles:

http://www.mwaa.com/dulles/174.htm

In addition, the Silver Line rail yard will be at Dulles; near the interchange of Route 606 and the Dulles Greenway.

[Itus]

We do need this thread. I was just not going to be the one to start it!

So the big issues being discussed on airliners.net:

-the poor state of C/D concourses:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/5012446
-silver line (and the location of the proposed station):
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4917732/
-the new FIS facilities
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5067739/

[shakman]

The expanded IAB. It is quite spectacular. I look forward for it to be fully complete.

When I flew back from Utah in January, I noticed a large rendering of the new C /D Concourse in the C Concourse AeroTrain station. i am not sure how long it has been there, though I did not notice it when flying out to Austin, TX mid-November 2010. I may have just missed it then. I hope the merger of United and Continental will get this project moving forward. Dulles has an excellent oppotunity to even further expand its United hub status. EWR is land locked and within one of the most congested airpace in the Nation, while Dulles can accomodate at least another two midfield concourses. Inside sources have told me each concourse can be upto a mile long.

Dulles Metro Station: http://www.wtop.com/?sid=2222844&nid=30.

[shakman]

I usually check for route updates on wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...tional_Airport) and on www.mwaa.com.

Dulles
Dulles - Salt Lake City: April 3, 2011; United /A319; Daily

Dulles - Grand Caymen: Has recently commenced; United / A320; 1x weekly

Dulles - Minnieapolis /St. Paul: April 3, 2011; United Express / E170; Daily

Dulles - Tulsa: April 3, 2011; United Express / RJ700; Daily

Dulles - Louisville: April 3, 2011; United Express / E145; Daily

Dulles - San Juan, PR: Service ends on April 4, 2011; American /737-800

Dulles - Paris CDG and Amstersdam: Ends August 31, 2011 and September 28, 2011 respectively. Both non-stop routes will be serviced by Continenetal; Amsterdam - September 1, 2011 and Paris-CDG - June 9, 2011. Since both airlines are in the process of merging, I do not understand the logic behind the service change. Anyone know of any reason(s)?

Dulles - Reykjavic (seasonal): May 17, 2011; Icelandair /757-300; 3x weekly

Dulles - Medina (seasonal): Saudi Arabian /777 (I need to verify this).

DCA
Regean National - Lansing: April 1, 2011; Sun Country /737(NG); Daily

Regean National - Myrtle Beach: May, 5 2011; Spirit / A319; Daily

[Itus]

Originally Posted by shakman

Dulles - Paris CDG and Amstersdam: Ends August 31, 2011 and September 28, 2011 respectively. Both non-stop routes will be serviced by Continenetal; Amsterdam - September 1, 2011 and Paris-CDG - June 9, 2011. Since both airlines are in the process of merging, I do not understand the logic behind the service change. Anyone know of any reason(s)?

As far as I know, the two airlines still have two separate operating certificates from the FAA. Given that--and I'm not completely sure how this works--the two airlines' fleets are really not fully integrated yet, so what we have with the CDG and AMS routes is a transition from United operations to operations that are still identified as Continental, with Continental aircraft, employees, levels of service, etc. The combined UA/CO is essentially moving some of CO's transatlantic 757 operations to IAD while moving some of UA's larger aircraft to EWR.

[from http://airlineroute.net/2011/02/12/uaco-s11-europe/]
Newark – Brussels eff 29SEP11 UNITED 777 replace Continental 767-400ER
Newark – Zurich eff 10JUN11 UNITED 767-300ER replace Continental 767-200ER

Washington Dulles – Amsterdam eff 01SEP11 Continental 757 to replace UNITED 777
Washington Dulles – Paris CDG eff 09JUN11 Continental 757 replace UNITED 777 eff 29SEP11 Service increase from 1 to 2 Daily

[shakman]

Originally Posted by Itus

As far as I know, the two airlines still have two separate operating certificates from the FAA. Given that--and I'm not completely sure how this works--the two airlines' fleets are really not fully integrated yet, so what we have with the CDG and AMS routes is a transition from United operations to operations that are still identified as Continental, with Continental aircraft, employees, levels of service, etc. The combined UA/CO is essentially moving some of CO's transatlantic 757 operations to IAD while moving some of UA's larger aircraft to EWR.

[from http://airlineroute.net/2011/02/12/uaco-s11-europe/]
Newark – Brussels eff 29SEP11 UNITED 777 replace Continental 767-400ER
Newark – Zurich eff 10JUN11 UNITED 767-300ER replace Continental 767-200ER

Washington Dulles – Amsterdam eff 01SEP11 Continental 757 to replace UNITED 777
Washington Dulles – Paris CDG eff 09JUN11 Continental 757 replace UNITED 777 eff 29SEP11 Service increase from 1 to 2 Daily

I forgot about the operating certificates have not quite merged yet. I did read about the moves, possible others, last year. I was praying it would not be a reality. Damn... Most of the reasoning for me spotting at IAD, ontop of PG-1, is for the 777 take-offs from 1R. Oh well two 777's out of a many; hopefully no more. Recently I have started to see more 777's of the "new" United colors.

[Itus]

According to this post (http://airlineroute.net/2011/03/17/ac-nacut-s11/), Air Canada is cutting IAD-Ottawa and Montreal service due to "unprofitability." I guess this will make it easier on United, who operates the routes already with AC codeshare.

[keagkid101]

Originally Posted by Itus

According to this post (http://airlineroute.net/2011/03/17/ac-nacut-s11/), Air Canada is cutting IAD-Ottawa and Montreal service due to "unprofitability." I guess this will make it easier on United, who operates the routes already with AC codeshare.

It's sad to see them leave IAD completely. Perhaps they should have just done 2x daily YYZ, but it's beyond me. Hopefully BWI will stick around.

[shakman]

IAD:

According to airlineroute.net, United Express via Shuttle America will discontinue the daily service to Halifax, NS on August 29, 2011. The equipment for this flight is an E170.

http://airlineroute.net/2011/03/26/uaco-2011-cuts/

Along with the departure of Air Canada Jazz, it seems like Canada and Dulles is going through a "divorce".


...and also according to arlineroute.net, Avianca will reduce service from 5 weekly flights to 4 weekly flights from March 27, 2011 (today) until May 24, 2011. The equipment for this fight remains an A319.

http://airlineroute.net/2011/03/25/av-intl-apr11/

[shakman]

DCA:

Starting on June 6, 2011, Delta will commence daily service from DCA to OMA. The equipment for this flight will be an E175.

http://airlineroute.net/2011/03/14/dl-mcioma-s11/

[shakman]

IAD:

Some months ago, Ethiopian upgraded its equipment from a 763 to 77L. I saw the Ethiopian 777-200LR with my own eyes yesterday morning, April 7, 2011.
http://airlineroute.net/2010/11/28/et-iad-777update3/


In addition, Ethiopian now operates daily non-stop service to Addis Ababa. The flight departs around 11am with return service arriving around 7:40am. The return flight appears to make a stop-over prior to arriving at IAD. (Anyone know where the stop-over occurs?)
http://www.mwaa.com/file/Flighguide_April-2011.pdf


...and Metro's Silver Line news... ...MWAA has voted in favor for an underground station below part of the Hourly Parking lot; below the PG-1 moving walkway. Patrons would then connect to the moving walkway above and into the Main Terminal.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=159&sid=2333629

[Itus]

Originally Posted by shakman

In addition, Ethiopian now operates daily non-stop service to Addis Ababa. The flight departs around 11am with return service arriving around 7:40am. The return flight appears to make a stop-over prior to arriving at IAD. (Anyone know where the stop-over occurs?)
http://www.mwaa.com/file/Flighguide_April-2011.pdf
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According to any news that I've seen, the return stop is still in Rome (as it has historically been), but it doesn't seem to show up in the schedule, suggesting to me that the individual legs to/from Rome are not bookable.

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[jetblast1]

Originally Posted by Itus

According to any news that I've seen, the return stop is still in Rome (as it has historically been), but it doesn't seem to show up in the schedule, suggesting to me that the individual legs to/from Rome are not bookable.

This is correct.

[shakman]

British Airways (BA) will resume 744 service out of IAD starting May 2011. The daily service to LHR, BA216 (departure) and BA217 (arrival) which will untilize a 744 equipment; upgraded from a 777.
http://www.mwaa.com/file/MWAA_May_2011.pdf (page 55)


SAS (SK) has made an equipment change for their daily service to Copenhagen, Denmark (CPH). The daily flight's equipment has been changed from an A333 to an A343. This has already commenced - April 2011.
http://www.mwaa.com/file/Flighguide_April-2011.pdf (page 54)


United (UA) has resumed daily non-stop seasonal service to Beijing (PEK).
http://www.mwaa.com/file/Flighguide_April-2011.pdf (Page 54)

[jetblast1]

Originally Posted by shakman

British Airways (BA) will resume 744 service out of IAD starting May 2011. This will be an additional daily service to LHR, BA216 (departure) and BA217 (arrival) which will untilize a 744 equipment. This will increase service from 3-daily to 4-daily.
http://www.mwaa.com/file/MWAA_May_2011.pdf (page 55)

BA216/217 has been operating with a 777 for the winter schedule. We will still have the same 3 daily departures to London (BA216, BA264, BA292) along with the OpenSkies flight to Paris that we handle.

[shakman]

Originally Posted by jetblast1

BA216/217 has been operating with a 777 for the winter schedule. We will still have the same 3 daily departures to London (BA216, BA264, BA292) along with the OpenSkies flight to Paris that we handle.

Ooooooops... I do not know how to count.

I edited my previous post.

[jetblast1]

Originally Posted by shakman

Ooooooops... I do not know how to count.

I edited my previous post.

That's okay - I am not good at math either

[shakman]

AeroSur Bolivia will resume service to IAD starting June 2011. In addition, AeroSur will increase service to 3x weekly from 07-04-11 to 09-04-11. Scheduled service utilitizes a 733 equipment.
http://airlineroute.net/2011/04/29/5l-iad-s11/

I did not know service was suspended. Does anyone know why service was suspended to begin with?

[shakman]

AEROFLOT' s weekly service will be making an equipment change from a 763ER to an A332 set for Winter 2011 /2012.
http://airlineroute.net/2011/05/08/su-w11intl-may11/