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Old February 2nd, 2008, 04:36 PM   #1
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Greater Birmingham, when will the West Midlands be re-named as Greater Birmingham? (similar to Greater London and Greater Manx)



I often find it annoying when I meet people from the West Midlands elsewhere in the UK, Europe and the rest of the world saying they are from Birmingham when they are not. Although, itĺs understandable, as our magnificent city is well known and West Midlands and other local counties are not. For identity purposes it does makes sense to change at least the West Midlands name county name to Greater Birmingham.

There are also the huge positive financial implications, with better and easier investment in Birmingham. There would be more impetus for improving/renewing transport infrastructure. Plus, a possible revival of increasing exports from Greater Birmingham to the rest of the world.

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Oh not this again! :p

It's been ongoing for years. All of the councils involved cannot agree. There was a consultation and the name for the region was something like "Birmingham, Dudley, Sandwell, Telford and Wolverhampton Region"

Manchester forumers come and troll as they do not like the fact that this region would be over 6 million in population, it ruins their publicity of Greater Manchester being 100,000 people less than the West Midlands of 2.6million.

We need a regional elected mayor!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 05:47 PM   #3
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Greater Birmingham, when will the West Midlands be re-named as Greater Birmingham? (similar to Greater London and Greater Manx)



I often find it annoying when I meet people from the West Midlands elsewhere in the UK, Europe and the rest of the world saying they are from Birmingham when they are not. Although, itĺs understandable, as our magnificent city is well known and West Midlands and other local counties are not. For identity purposes it does makes sense to change at least the West Midlands name county name to Greater Birmingham.

There are also the huge positive financial implications, with better and easier investment in Birmingham. There would be more impetus for improving/renewing transport infrastructure. Plus, a possible revival of increasing exports from Greater Birmingham to the rest of the world.

p.s. Apologies to those who's feelings I have hurt by this posting.
What, you get annoyed when someone who isn't from Birmingham doesn't say they are from Birmingham? How odd.

I doubt changing a name will improve exports.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 07:09 PM   #4
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I reckon we should completely ditch the West Midlands county idea. We move Coventry back into Warwickshire where it would be much better suited. Greater Birmingham is the way forward!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 07:25 PM   #5
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I reckon we should completely ditch the West Midlands county idea. We move Coventry back into Warwickshire where it would be much better suited. Greater Birmingham is the way forward!
In that case, please put Wolverhampton back in Staffordshire and Dudley in Worcestershire - it sounds so much better and makes it all a bit more interesting than just lumping one big splodge of ugly housing as 'Greater Birmingham'.

Greater Birmingham can be used as an informal name.
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Dudley would destroy the image of Worcestershire! Of course, the leafy burbs of Sedgley would work just fine in Worcestershire!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 09:43 PM   #7
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Our region should be called Minas Tirith.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 09:51 PM   #8
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Dudley would destroy the image of Worcestershire! Of course, the leafy burbs of Sedgley would work just fine in Worcestershire!
Sedgley and Gornal were actually in Staffordshire until 1964ish when they were transferred into Dudley. The borderline of Staffs/Worcs ran over Wrens Nest nature reserve thing, making Dudley Castle actually belonging to Sedgley rather than Dudley.
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I knew that .
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 01:33 AM   #10
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I still get letters in the post addressed as "Coseley, Staffordshire". *sigh*

Oh, but I have had many Greater Birmingham addressed ones though. Tee-hee.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 02:31 AM   #12
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I get the odd fax referring to Birmingham, Warwickshire.

And that's from a major media company.

I won't tell you which one, but I'll give you a clue - it's the one funded by the licence fee.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 02:37 AM   #13
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Wouldn't worry. Lots of companies seem to think keeping addresses current isn't a priority despite the Postal PAF file being updated for companies regularily.

I used to live in Selly Park, Worcestershire
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Old February 5th, 2008, 12:39 PM   #14
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Here is a little something I stumbled across, its a little sarcy but its fairly good fun...
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Telford’s terminology tyrants may have done us all a favour

YOU may remember that business about the convoluted temporary name for what should be Greater Birmingham.

They came up with Birmingham, Coventry and Black Country City Region. By common consent, not the snappiest of titles to get your molars around.

The problem the body faced was trying to satisfy everyone and there were some sharp intakes of breath and gnashing of teeth in the region’s corridors of power when calling it Greater Birmingham was, well, hinted at.

In an effort to be even-handed, the temporary moniker was created. But now there is a problem. Or is there? Opponents of regional government, centred mainly in that hotbed of political turmoil Telford & Wrekin, registered the name Birmingham, Coventry and the Black Country City Region Ltd at Companies House. An outfit called West Midlands No! felt they had achieved a propaganda coup, having prevented the real city-region from using this name. The new company’s secretary is West Midlands No! founder Stuart Parr, a national member of the Campaign for an English Parliament and chairman of the Telford & Wrekin United Kingdom Independence Party. You know the sort.

But now the city-region is beginning to show exactly what this amalgamation of seven West Midlands metropolitan authorities can do.

They have launched a campaign to attract inward investment to the region, including Telford & Wrekin. The idea is to co-ordinate opportunities, so that they are not lost if one part of the region cannot accommodate a new investor. By marketing the area as a single entity without creating a huge extra bureaucracy they believe they can co-ordinate a large number of competing organisations in a complicated landscape, as they describe it.

Now this would seem to be a sensible ambition. What Wolverhampton cannot do, Telford might. An opportunity dropping into Birmingham might better be taken up by Coventry.

And the main target of all this manoeuvring is wealth creation in the wider West Midlands.

This seems a sensible solution and a natural development of the Government’s ambitions for devolution.

Provided great, new and expensive administrative machines are not set up, everyone should be a winner and the city-region is always, of course, answerable to elected councils. The only nonsensical element of all this is that wretched name. We can only hope that in the fullness of time the West Midlands No! campaign has done us a favour.

The region should be called Greater Birmingham and maybe in the future we will be thanking Mr Parr for making it impossible for it to be called Birmingham, Coventry, Black Country etc etc…
http://www.westmidlandsno.org.uk/wordpress/?p=291

Also, if you go down to point 5 here http://www.telford.gov.uk/demservice...?reference=575 there is a document relating to the formation of a company for the city-region. It seems things are trundling steadily on with it.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #15
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Im from Coventry and would like the region to be call Greater Birmingham.
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noticed the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Birmingham
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When and what would have to happen for the West Midlands to officially change its name to "Greater Birmingham" ??????

Would it have to go to Parliament or something????
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:54 AM   #18
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I often see places in the Greater West Midlands calling themselves Birmingham, Ikea for one. As stupid as it sounds West Midlands/Wednesbury/Oldbury is not "cool" and perceptions these days do mean everything when it comes to "BUSINESS" !
I am amazed West Mids business leaders haven't pushed this from wayback.
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The problem is, borough councils like Dudley and Solihull are opposed to taking on the Birmingham name because it takes away some of their identity, they think. Which is a fair point but is ignorant of the possibility that it could generate them more private investment if they went for the Greater Birmingham moniker.
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I'm for the west midlands to change to greater birmingham
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