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Old March 19th, 2011, 08:36 PM   #81
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Old March 19th, 2011, 09:54 PM   #82
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I don't know where they got that from; the Toronto flights haven't resumed yet and Monarch aren't even operating them! They begin again next month and one flight will be an Air Transat A330, the other a Thomas Cook 757. The Monarch A330 pictured was actually operating a one off trooping flight to Akrotiri.

See here: http://bhxflightguide.blogspot.com/s...%20-%20Monarch
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Old March 19th, 2011, 11:27 PM   #83
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Seems that there isn't enough demand for Toronto from BHX? How did Air India manage 6 weekly?

Maybe it's because of the airlines' services. Air India offered PTV's. Maybe Air Canada is the canadian airline for BHX?
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Old March 20th, 2011, 12:09 AM   #84
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I don't think Air India actually carried that many passengers to YYZ whose journey originated in BHX - I seem to remember reading once that it averaged at about 45 passengers per flight although I might be wrong. If correct, that would only have worked out a 270 passengers a week so the two weekly seasonal flights Air Transat/Thomas Cook flights should easily meet the demand.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 04:43 PM   #85
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I'm guessing that there isn't enough demand for YYZ from here? What about when PIA did flights from Pakistan to YYZ via BHX on the A310, what were the loads on that route, anyone know?

Anyone heard anything else on the rumor mill for BHX?
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Old March 20th, 2011, 11:38 PM   #86
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Old March 21st, 2011, 10:20 AM   #87
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Thanks for those videos Hoody, I have watched them before.

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Old March 21st, 2011, 10:39 AM   #88
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Well after all their new routes/frequencies this year the Manchester route development team is apparently out in Asia talking to potential airlines and has follow up meetings in the UK arranged, so could well be them. Who knows what the BHX team are doing.

On a brighter note BHX may, and it's a long shot at the moment, gain some extra BMIBaby flights.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:38 PM   #89
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Well after all their new routes/frequencies this year the Manchester route development team is apparently out in Asia talking to potential airlines and has follow up meetings in the UK arranged, so could well be them. Who knows what the BHX team are doing.

On a brighter note BHX may, and it's a long shot at the moment, gain some extra BMIBaby flights.
Well, a while ago I contacted BHX to suggest starting some new long-haul routes, such as QR, AA etc. They replied saying that they had forwarded those ideas to the route development team, so they are probably doing that.

Hopefully someone on this forum could go down to the airport and find out for themselves which long-haul routes or short-haul, that the BHX team are having discussions about and considering, and tell us on here so that'll be something to add to the rumor mill.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:46 PM   #90
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Well, a while ago I contacted BHX to suggest starting some new long-haul routes, such as QR, AA etc. They replied saying that they had forwarded those ideas to the route development team, so they are probably doing that.

Hopefully someone on this forum could go down to the airport and find out for themselves which long-haul routes or short-haul, that the BHX team are having discussions about and considering, and tell us on here so that'll be something to add to the rumor mill.
Hi Hassan - doubt very much anyone fron the airport would reveal to us who they're talking to about what, way to commercically sensitive. As has been said above, the key at the moment is to build a European network. When you think it through the long haul provision is excellent, albeit always via 1 stop i.e. Amsterdam, Dubai, Newark etc. None of the long haul flights from BHX are pulling 90%+ load factors on a regular basis so more work to be done on filling the flights we have rather than attracting new ones in my view.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:20 PM   #91
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Hi Hassan - doubt very much anyone fron the airport would reveal to us who they're talking to about what, way to commercically sensitive. As has been said above, the key at the moment is to build a European network. When you think it through the long haul provision is excellent, albeit always via 1 stop i.e. Amsterdam, Dubai, Newark etc. None of the long haul flights from BHX are pulling 90%+ load factors on a regular basis so more work to be done on filling the flights we have rather than attracting new ones in my view.
I agree. I think the one we really need to be filling is Emirates to Dubai.

I hear CO is going down to 5 weekly from November. Not a surprise.

Let's lean this discussion to PIA now.

Any expansion intended for them though their load figures aren't good enough?

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Old March 23rd, 2011, 04:13 AM   #92
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...Who knows what the BHX team are doing...
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 06:50 PM   #93
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I hear CO is going down to 5 weekly from November.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 06:52 PM   #94
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Who knows what CO are planning but another recent post on here said that they were upgrading the Boeing 757 to a 767 on the EWR route which would be good.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 09:44 PM   #95
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Who knows what CO are planning but another recent post on here said that they were upgrading the Boeing 757 to a 767 on the EWR route which would be good.
That post was made a while ago and it was a rumor, heard it on PPRune. Someone confirmed on PPRune that Continental denied it. Some people had been saying that the 763's (of United) have too many business class seats to fill.

It's a shame because I would have liked to see an upgrade, as a flight I was trying to book in Feb was fully booked on the outbound flight, but the average load figures aren't as good as expected.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 09:53 PM   #96
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Good news on cargo out of BHX

The CAA - Civil Aviation Authority - have recently published
their annual 2010 traffic statistics which confirm that
Birmingham Airport has surged into the UK air cargo top 10,
based on tonnage of cargo handled last year
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Carried across a combination of dedicated freight flights and
on passenger services, Birmingham processed over
21 thousand tonnes of cargo in 2010, up 65% on last year
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During 2010, freight activity accounted for 3,121 flights, with
scheduled express freight services operated to France, Ireland
and the Netherlands, plus ad-hoc services to and from points
all over Europe
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Old March 25th, 2011, 10:22 PM   #97
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BIRMINGHAM at number 9 for Cargo traffic

LHR 1,472988
EMA 273630
STN 202238
MAN 115922
LGW 104032
BFS 29716
LTN 28473
MSE 28103
BHX 21605
EDI 20357
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Old March 26th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #98
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Could that be put down to the demise of CVT?
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Old March 26th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #99
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What's the measurements? Tonnes?
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Could that be put down to the demise of CVT?
Almost certainly. That's why Brum now gets so many weird and wonderful transport aircraft.
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