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Old April 23rd, 2011, 02:01 AM   #241
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They have been covered with sand and grass to preserve them for when the palace reconstruction begins. There are excavations happening on Traugutta where a new building is being built

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Old April 23rd, 2011, 02:21 AM   #242
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Are the excavations around the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier still open? Or have they been covered up?
They are covered now.

An older aerial with opened excavations :



and same area befor the war :



some more aerials of Warsaw's city center:







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Old April 23rd, 2011, 04:50 AM   #243
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Old April 29th, 2011, 07:50 AM   #244
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The construction of Warsaw's first expressway, Trasa Lazienkowska that connected Warsaw proper with right bank Praga:























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Old April 29th, 2011, 08:11 AM   #245
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The National Temple of Divine Providence in Warsaw is considered to be the most important ecclesiastical building of the last three centuries in Poland, which is finally nearing completion. The story of the construction of the Temple of Divine Providence began over 200 years ago with a concept by Jan Kubicki.



The complex of Divine Providence nearing completion is composed of a Church of Divine Providence, Museum Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Stefan Wyszynski and Pantheon of the Great Poles. It's intended to be a place of thanksgiving to God for all these events that have happened in Poland’s history for over 200 years: the Constitution of May 3, 1791; the resumption of independence in 1918; the Miracle at the Vistula in 1920; the founding in Solidarity in September 1980; the resumption of independence in 1989; the pastoral ministry of Stefan Wyszynski and John Paul II’s pontificate. The shrine would be also a votive church of the nation for two thousand years of Christianity.









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Big fan of this project! I think it's going to look fantastic when completed.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #247
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Though I like the building ending the axis and providing a focal point, it really reminds me of those big projects on simliar buildings in Africa of all places; seems like they only build such huge places there, and maybe in the former USSR.
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I do think building big churches or any religious temples seems like a waste of money especially on such a scale, but this one serves a broader cultural function, and the interior is actually quite spectacular though it looks like a nuclear power plant from some angles and is of an overwhelming scale for its context.
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I do think building big churches or any religious temples seems like a waste of money especially on such a scale, but this one serves a broader cultural function, and the interior is actually quite spectacular though it looks like a nuclear power plant from some angles and is of an overwhelming scale for its context.
I think the bigger, the better. And why not?? Look at the grand buildings that were constructed hundreds of years ago in London and Paris. They attract tourists nowadays. Warsaw doesn't have enough of these buildings. This will most likely be the last, great church built in Poland.
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I think this will be the last big church project, there are more important things to spend money on. I'm trying to find the interior shots I came across - the interior is very impressive. Warsaw actually has a lot a big beautiful churches, but not quite as big as St. Paul's or Notre Dame. Even St. John's isn;t that big whereas Krakow has some big churches - St Mary's and Bozego Ciala etc.
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Great updates. The new church looks very interesting.
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I think the bigger, the better. And why not?? Look at the grand buildings that were constructed hundreds of years ago in London and Paris. They attract tourists nowadays. Warsaw doesn't have enough of these buildings. This will most likely be the last, great church built in Poland.
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No bez przesady! No need to get defensive.

Ale w Polsce jest tyle kosciolow - a szczegolnie reprezentyjnych kosciolow ktore spelniaja funkcje "duchowe" na skali nardowej - ze taki koszt i wydadek na nastepna wlasnie taka swiatynie to cos niewiarygodnego!
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tylko ze swiatynia spelnia funkcje kulturalna/muzeum/panteon wielkich Polakow itd, ale sie zgadzam, wolalem zeby takie funduszy przyznaczyli na zachanie/odbudowe zabytkow.
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While I don't judge here it's a good idea build this Church or not. But I want correct description of this. It's not like Temple was build for 200 years, it is fulfillment of obligations of sejm from May 1791 (to thanks the God, for Constitution). So it's quite extraordinary that idea survive two centuries, despite history. In that light it would be stupid to, if build, make it some small, press somewhere behind.
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Interesting fact - Wilanów is probably the most liberal district in Poland and there are very few practicing catholics living around that huge temple so excluding some celebrations it would probably stay quite empty
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I think Jan Kubicki's project should have been built, it is of the right scale and feel for Warsaw and the Wilanow community, but unfortunately the Warsaw conservator won't allow any historic reconstruction. This monstrosity although interesting and of considerable merit on its own belongs in the downtown area on a square that terminates a major axis. Something much smaller is needed here.

BTW, I really like the recently restored Mazovian Gothic Church of St. Jakub which is authentic from 1586 as it was outside the zone of annihilation. Same style as St. John's in its current form. Anyone interested its in Tarchomin on Mehofer Street.



St. John's for comparison

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Old May 6th, 2011, 01:42 AM   #258
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Some socialist realist dreams that never got off the drawing boards. To the uninititated, socialist realism is a post war style of architecture and urban planning that was contextual, classically proportioned with monumental qualities designed to impress/intimidate.



















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Old May 6th, 2011, 01:46 AM   #259
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Great vision indeed.
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Wow, very impressive!
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