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Old October 31st, 2011, 05:56 AM   #521
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Those images of ultimate destruction get me every time. I don't know who views this page on a regular basis, but the world should be thankful we do not see mass destruction like this anymore. There will always be wars but WW2 was an exception. In places like Warsaw, Dresden, Berlin, Gdansk, Tokyo (I could go on) where did people get the inspiration to pick themselves up and rebuild? It fascinates me.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:02 AM   #522
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Where The Street Have No Name

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Old October 31st, 2011, 08:32 AM   #523
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I'm sure if we put our heads together we could figure out where that street was...if you find out, I am offering a small prize

Anyway, you know, I wonder about the same things you do, but from what I heard it seems that people living in the aftermath of such catastrophies actually have a very strong purpose in life and feel very motivated and happy...of course Warsaw was different, no sooner was one devastation ended that the commies arrived for 44 years of occupation and slow rot.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 08:35 AM   #524
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I'm sure if we put our heads together we could figure out where that street was...if you find out, I am offering a small prize

Anyway, you know, I wonder about the same things you do, but from what I heard it seems that people living in the aftermath of such catastrophies actually have a very strong purpose in life and feel very motivated and happy...of course Warsaw was different, no sooner was one devastation ended that the commies arrived for 60 years of occupation and slow rot.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 11:04 AM   #525
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Warsaw was under communist rule for 44 years, 7 months and 25 days (from 17th January 1945 until 11th September 1989).
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Old November 4th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #526
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Here are some before (1947) and afters of reconstructed areas for comparison sake (thanks Polex):


















































































something else that's changed this WWII is the climate, we now have palm trees

















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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #527
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WOW, those before and afters are amazing. It's such a shame so much was lost!
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Old November 5th, 2011, 06:49 AM   #528
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Makes me sad how much destruction WW2 brought to Warsaw... At least some buildings were reconstructed, though many modern buildings aren't that bad either.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #529
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There is a lot of good architecture going on now as well as some banal of course, I will be posting some newer developments once they near completion.

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Old November 8th, 2011, 07:53 PM   #530
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Obviously a lot of the modern replacements were quite awful, but the "closet" on the former Napoleon Square (I think it's now Plac Warecki) is quite tasteful, with a bit of a cleaning it could look rather grand!
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Old November 17th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #531
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świetny wątek, naprawdę dobra robota,
śledzę skyscrapercity od ponad 2 lat, jesteś, zdaje się, jedynym udzielającym się na forum obcokrajowcem, który pisze po polsku? Polakiem obcego pochodzenia?
no właśnie kim jesteś?
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Old November 17th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #532
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Errrr, jest nas tutaj sporo!
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Old November 17th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #533
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świetny wątek, naprawdę dobra robota,
śledzę skyscrapercity od ponad 2 lat, jesteś, zdaje się, jedynym udzielającym się na forum obcokrajowcem, który pisze po polsku? Polakiem obcego pochodzenia?
no właśnie kim jesteś?
Witam...wlasnie, jak intervention pisze, jest nas sporo, jestem z Polskiego pochodzenia, mieszkam na zachodzie i w Polsce. Szkoda ze wiecej forumowiczow z FPW nie promuje Polske i Polskich miast na miedzynarodowym Pozdrawiam
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Old November 17th, 2011, 05:52 PM   #534
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Obviously a lot of the modern replacements were quite awful, but the "closet" on the former Napoleon Square (I think it's now Plac Warecki) is quite tasteful, with a bit of a cleaning it could look rather grand!
actually it's Warsaw Uprising Square. In agree it is a very nice building, although a little low in my opinion thuis weakening a sense of enclosure. THe square really needs a facelift, they should finally build that underground parking garage and then do something with the amorphous space on ground level once the cars are moved below...a number of buildings along the edges need restoration and hopefully the Hotel Warsaw (Prudential) will be restored soon. This would be a great place to permanently locate the Warsaw Nike, which is now barely visible on an embankment of the Trasa W-Z....and its one of the most compelling and meaningful of post-war monuments.
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I think this is a problem impacting a lot of Warsaw's squares - Plac Teatralny, Plac Trzech Krzyzy and even Plac Bankowy which in truth is nothing more than a tangle of arterial roads. The previous two are poorly designed and don't do justice to their important role in the city. I digress. In comparison, Plac Powstancow (or whatever) is actually less plagued by the traffic problem but it could do with a face lift. I don't mind the height of the bank building - it's a nice compliment to the otherwise very dense surroundings.
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I agree, Plac Bankowy and Teatralny have pedestrian-friendly qualities and life around edges as does Plac Trzech Krzyzy, however pedestrians are cut off from the square by a tangle of arterials, but the redesign projekt selected does propose dramatic traffic calming for the existing eastern-most road that encircles the square...but the question is why would anyone go there, the former squares at least have a more direct relationship with buildings around the edges where ground floor retail and restaurants could easily enliven the squares.
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You mean why would anyone go to Trzech Krzyzy or Plac Bankowy? Plac Bankowy is a major employment node (the City Hall, the office tower etc) and a fairly important transit terminal with the Metro station, the tram and the fact that it's the closest Metro station to the Old Town.
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I mean Plac Trzech Krzyzy, but more so as it is now, I'm sure it could be made more attractive and user-friendly.

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Old November 19th, 2011, 08:37 AM   #539
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I mean Plac Trzech Krzyzy, but more so as it is now, I'm sure it could be made more attractive and user-friendly.

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Winning design for Plac Trzech Krzyzy Redevelopment:

I hope they have this on their "To Do" list. I was there in June and the surrounding area is quite great. They just have to revitalize it.
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Yeah I stayed nearby in May. The plan was to redo this square and Plac Teatralny before the EURO2012 but the city didn't have the capital.
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