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Old November 3rd, 2012, 07:21 AM   #941
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During the War - Muranow District





Post war - The building on the right originally was a barracks complex (Koszary Wołyńskie) and during the war the Gęsiów Nazi concentration camp, one of a number of such inside Warsaw. It was an important battleground during the Warsaw Uprising. The Polish Home Army liberated all the inmates of this camp (mostly Jews), many of whom along with the Home Army liberators later perished in the Uprising.






In honour of All Souls Day, here is the grave of the brave young man who was a member of the insurgent unit that liberated the aforementioned prison camp and in who's honour the unit was named, although he had perished earlier. May they all rest in peace.



Now - Museum of the History of Polish Jews



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The palace on the right, what was inside it, what was the name of it?
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 10:13 PM   #943
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before 1939 it was military prison . During war it was seat of Jewish council
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 10:42 PM   #944
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Old November 4th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #945
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restoration is starting next year of the square itself
I hope that city will rebuild Saski Palace till 2018. It would be a fantastic present for Warsaw, for Poland in hundredth anniversary of independence

BTW. Fantastic thread
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Old November 4th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #946
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Post war - The building on the right originally was a barracks complex (Koszary Wołyńskie) and during the war the Gęsiów Nazi concentration camp, one of a number of such inside Warsaw. It was an important battleground during the Warsaw Uprising. The Polish Home Army liberated all the inmates of this camp (mostly Jews), but they along with most of the Home Army later perished in the Uprising.
There is no evidence that all the Jews liberated from "Gęsiówka" later perished in the Warsaw Uprising. As the plaque shown correctly states, many of them did, which means - not all of them.

Neither did "most" of the Home Army's personnel die during the uprising. The Home Army had about 50,000 sworn-in members in Warsaw, of whom about 16,000 fell during the uprising, which is about 32%.

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In honour of All Souls Day, here's one of the young men who took part in the liberation of the aforementioned building complex.
That's the grave of Tadeusz Zawadzki, pseudonym "Zośka". He couldn't have possibly taken part in the liberation of the mentioned complex, because he was killed on 20th August 1943 - a year before the Warsaw Uprising - in an attack on a German border post at Sieczychy, near Wyszków (some 100 km from Warsaw).

Btw, one of the famous Home Army battalions that distinguished themselves during the uprising was called "Zośka", in honour of Zawadzki. Indeed, it was the insurgent unit that liberated the "Gęsiówka" camp.
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Old November 4th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #947
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thanks for the correction. it sounds like your an expert on these matters.

So I have a question for you and all those experts on the Uprising and its aftermath.

Is it correct to say that the ashes (mostly) of all those Varsovians who perished in the Uprising and during the entire Nazi terror, many of whom remain anonymous, are buried at either the Powązki Military Cemetary at 34/45 Powazkowska Street, at the Warsaw Insurgents Cemetary at 174/176 Wolska Street or Powązki itself where there is a mausoleum with a huge urn of ashes in the catacombs by the Aleja Zasłużonych (Allee of Great People or Most Deserved), for victims of concentration camps, where many Varsovians also met their end?

Are there any other places?

P.S. Thanks for the compliment Kubrov
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Old November 4th, 2012, 08:52 PM   #948
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You're opinions are quite extreme. This building is creative and therefore I like it. It stands out. It wouldn't be out of place in Rotterdam, in my opinion.

Constructive criticism is ok. Stupid criticism is not.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 04:53 AM   #949
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but everything is past now....isn't it?
You can compare
http://warszawa.gazeta.pl/warszawa/0,88971.html?bo=1
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Old November 8th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #950
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Just came across these pics of one of central Warsaw's districts (Wola) from 50's and 60's. They remind so much of my first visit to Warsaw, this very district, and the impression of vast desolation it left on me, so many empty lots, identical towers of commie blocks stacked horizantally, some nice post war international style, lots of greenery, vast sidewalks of concrete tiles, playgrounds filled with children, nothing but buses and taxis on the vast new boulevards ...and here and there the fragment of a ruin of one of those magnificent pre-war beaux arts tenement houses....and at night the glowing neon lights that relieved the greyness with an eerie warmth. enjoy





















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Restoration of Lazienki Park (Royal Baths)

Restoration of Agrykola Bridge and Jan III Sobieski Monument:







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too bad Warsaw now looks like shit (what else you could espect of a city run by a pole), and not that nice looking flatened area back in the good old German times...
Well i forgot to mention about the war-reperations we never recevied.

80 billion dollars (This however only makes up the loss of pre-war state- and city owned buildings and structures in the city)
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Great news from Prozna street: They have started the reconstruction of the facades on the best preserved tenement houses within the Warsaw Ghetto!

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A brief comparisson so far.

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Kwiecień 2010 (inwestycja zaczęła się parę miesięcy później, ale tutaj prawie idealny kadr )

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too bad Warsaw now looks like shit (what else you could espect of a city run by a pole), and not that nice looking flatened area back in the good old German times...
Are you serious? Ban the anti-Polish trolls.
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Prozna Street and vistas continue to change. Latest installment on the rapidly changing cityscape around Grzybowski Square:









View of street towards the square from Zielna Street during war (note ghetto wall):

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these two buildings are really beautiful especially if you compare them to the yellow and to the grey building besides. They're really depressing....I wish they could tear down them and rebuilt what there was before, but i think is quite difficult....
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yes, sadly it would be. there is the Venice Charter on conservation and of course private ownership obstacles.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:21 PM   #960
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I wish they were both painted while.
Hope the crumbling building will be renovated as well as the one across from it.
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