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Old January 29th, 2014, 09:36 PM   #1481
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Mruczek, the documents I have found in the BOS (Biuro Odbudowy Stolicy - Office for the Reconstruction of the Capital) seem to indicate that many of thee buildings were atleast in easily salvaegable condition. Maybe you can read the descriptions better, I'm not used to reading written Polish - versus printed. I'm only posting a few docs here.



































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Old January 30th, 2014, 09:49 PM   #1482
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Amazing film showing the beginning of the reconstruction of the old town in 1946:

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Old February 2nd, 2014, 11:24 PM   #1483
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Pre-war ([pre WWI but building didn't change to outbreak of WWII - looks interesting seeing it being built):



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Old February 4th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #1484
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How downtown Warsaw was supposed to look by the 1970's - except communism failed to reform and went bankrupt.



and now point towers sitting on podiums are all the rage again....looks a lot like Vancouver today
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Except much less dense
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Old February 4th, 2014, 07:02 PM   #1486
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nothing can top Vancouver, if it wasn't for those famous view corridors to the mountains can't imagine how anyone could stand living in that city. At least you have Plac Defilad where you could still stretch out and get some fresh air
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Old February 4th, 2014, 07:05 PM   #1487
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nothing can top Vancouver, if it wasn't for those famous view corridors to the mountains can't imagine how anyone could stand living in that city. At least you have Plac Defilad where you could still stretch out and get some fresh air
Could you elaborate more about Vancouver? I am rather curious.
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it's Canada's most densely populated city all crammed into a peninsula that ends in the famous Stanley Park. Vanocuver has managed to humanize skyscrapers by keeping them far enough apart and putting them on 4 storey podiums with townhouses, shops and services that people can relate. But this is nothing new, it was done in the 60's but they have indeed improved upon it. You could look up more info in Wikipedia on Vancouverism, it's pretty accurate and there are links for further research:

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Old February 4th, 2014, 07:35 PM   #1489
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it's Canada's most densely populated city all crammed into a peninsula that ends in the famous Stanley Park. Vanocuver has managed to humanize skyscrapers by keeping them far enough apart and putting them on 4 storey podiums with townhouses, shops and services that people can relate. But this is nothing new, it was done in the 60's but they have indeed improved upon it. You could look up more info in Wikipedia on Vancouverism, it's pretty accurate and there are links for further research:

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So you are saying that it is an aesthetically banal and perhaps soulless city? Or what of it do you dislike?
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the setting and the natural splendour makes Vancouver very beautiful, streetlife is good along major downtown avenues, there are some architectural gems from various periods,. I do find the towers a little soulless, but I wouldn't say it is a soulless city per se. It has a lot to offer, but yopu would be paying a steep price for it these days.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 12:41 AM   #1491
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Downtown Warsaw - Pre-War and Plac Defilad District Post-War

Picture showing construction of central train station and newly constructed Palace of Culture and Sciences where once a dense fabric of streets and 5-7 story perimeter blocks existed pre-war and was considered Warsaw's downtown. Many buildings were also torn down to make way for widening of Marszalkowska Street. It should be noted that
according to BOS (Office for the Reconstruction of the Capital) documents, which I will provide a few of later, many more buildings in this area could have been easily restored, rebuilt and even just slightly renovated. The area housed thousands of people post war in tens of buildings that were still livable. Instead it was decided to demolish them.



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Pre-war street layout: (in red indicates buildings destroyed; green - surviving war, areas b/w still being researched but also not rebuilt)





Some unique buildings and streetscapes that once existed in this area that we will never see again:



















Sliska Street after first wave of destruction in 1939



Similarly Sosmowa Street











Syrena Record Company on the left with view of Chmielna Street















Some buildings survived the war in this region albeit battered, for example



the above building still stood in 1950



Buildings demolished to make way for new Central Train Station



This building survived partly, was restored but then was demolished in 1975



Building survived but was modernized



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A few more survivors



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The only building that still exists which was located in the artificial wartime little ghetto, which was the Jewish Nursing School:




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The Horror
At one point, this was going to be built where Warsaw's Royal Castle once stood. Can you imagine this today?






http://www.zamek-krolewski.pl/zwiedz...go-w-warszawie
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Thank God for that. and from having reviewing a lot of the BOS documents it seems that serious consideration was given to not rebuilding old Warsaw and even moving the capital. Communists often put ideology before aesthetics.
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What is this? It's in Old Town.

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Looks like some kind of old water pump.
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it looks like a statue of a knight in armor with sword pointing down.
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At one point, this was going to be built where Warsaw's Royal Castle once stood. Can you imagine this today?






http://www.zamek-krolewski.pl/zwiedz...go-w-warszawie
Was it a real project for this place?
Seems more like a fantasy about what might have been erected there instead of the castle.
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...and Central Downtown Warsaw Today (Warsaw has 3 other CBD and tall building clusters).

note that the Central Trail Station is just to the bottom left of above image



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Was it a real project for this place?
Seems more like a fantasy about what might have been erected there instead of the castle.

From what I've read in the past, rebuilding the Royal Castle was never a 100% sure thing. I believe there were ideas floating around to build something more "useful" there (like a department store).

From Wikipedia:

In the years 1945-1970, the Communist authorities delayed making a decision on whether to rebuild the Castle. The decision to do so was taken in 1971. Funds for the rebuilding of the Castle which took until 1980 were provided thanks to the dedication of the community.
In 1984 the reconstructed interiors were opened to the general public.
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Polonia paid for the Castle at least the bulk of it.
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