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Old November 23rd, 2014, 09:18 PM   #1941
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They ruined it anyway with the brick planter and the mcdonalds signs.
And that 'grille' on the side.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 10:34 PM   #1942
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Location was its undoing. It occupied a hugely attractive parcel near the city centre. If the commies had put it up in a different place, today it could be a listed building - or at least I like to think it could; I have some sentiment for the poor thing.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 10:45 PM   #1943
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commies didn't understand central place theory or anything to do with economics, imposing an alien and inherently dysfunctional economic system, centralized planning disconnected from local realities on societies that did previously function very well and allocated resources efficiently and this translated into urban forms that made sense economically and aesthetically....beauty follows form and function. The supersam would have looked right and beautiful on the periphery of the city.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #1944
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The complete restoration of this building in Praga right bank Warsaw that once housed KGB operatives continues:



and PKP headquarters finally get a facelift:





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restoration of this downtown beauty nearing the end:







thanks Mateusz_wilq
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Old November 26th, 2014, 07:26 PM   #1945
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The Kierbedzia Bridge was the first steel bridge over the Vistula River in Warsaw. It was designed by Stanisław Kierbedź and built between 1859 and 1864. The bridge had six spans and was 474 m long.

The bridge was once again destroyed on September 13, 1944 by the retreating German army as the Red Army approached on the right bank of the Vistula.

After World War II, a new bridge, called the Śląsko-Dąbrowski Bridge, was built on the surviving pillars of the bridge and coincided with the demolition of the Pancer Viaduct (Wiadukt Pancera) as part of the construction of the new Route WZ.

In September 2011, at the request of the Department of Bridges (part of the Research Institute of Roads and Bridges), a 6-foot piece of truss from the Kierbedzia bridge was recovered from the Vistula to be presented for public viewing.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #1946
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Warsaw after war.


















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Royal Castle being rebuilt.



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Old November 30th, 2014, 07:44 PM   #1949
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I'd love to see a green space like this return to this area.




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Old November 30th, 2014, 07:53 PM   #1950
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Old December 1st, 2014, 06:24 AM   #1951
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I believe what we are seeing here is the nave of St. Martins on the upper left, some of it did survive; in the foreground the ruined kamienice along Podwale Street which will be dismantled to reveal the medieval walls entirely; Piwna Street ruins in the middle ground and in the upper right the belfry tower of St. John's, aside from the altar not much of it survived.



I'm going to Warsaw probably in February to research more of such post war pics in the PAN archives. I'm trying to find all the post war photographic documentation I can find on the condition of the old town.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 04:12 AM   #1952
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They used to make hats.






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Pre-war.















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Old December 4th, 2014, 04:32 AM   #1954
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I'd love to see this rebuilt.




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Old December 4th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #1955
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W internecie można znaleźć rysunki stanu zachowania murów kamienic przy Rynku Starego Miasta. Jest też raport o stratach wojennych Warszawy, gdzie również jest wiele ciekawych informacji: http://www.rodaknet.com/Raport_o_str...h_Warszawy.pdf
Więcej szczegółowych danych na stronie: http://www.warszawska.info/stare-mia...ek-barssa.html oraz http://www.warszawska.info/srodmiesc...ynek-plan.html

Na różowo zaznaczono zachowane części fasad.


Rynek, Strona Barssa (wschodnia).


Rynek, Strona Dekerta (północna).


Rynek, Strona Zakrzewskiego (południowa).


Rynek, strona Kołłątaja (zachodnia).
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Old December 7th, 2014, 02:36 PM   #1957
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Czesc, moze sie orientujecie czy w tym watku jesli nie to istnieje jakis inny watek ktore posiada zdjecia porownawcza Warszawy przed i po wojnie? Musze na zajecia zrobic prezentacje dla erazmusow o Polsce. Zawarlem tam takie ciekawostki jak 'godzina W' w Warszawie i chce wlasnie wstawic zzdjecia porownawcze. W google tylko zdj slabej jakosci udalo mi sie niestety znalezc.

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Old December 7th, 2014, 05:40 PM   #1958
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witam i zapraszam do przegladania tego watku gdzie duzo mozna znalesc na twoj temat jezeli nie odpadlo z hosting i jeszcze na Polskim forum jest taki ciekawy watek:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=369337
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Old December 7th, 2014, 06:10 PM   #1959
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Preserved in its originality?
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Old December 7th, 2014, 06:25 PM   #1960
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yes what you see above was shored up or braced against collapse (where only one wall stood) and windows were temporarily bricked in until reconstruction or restoration began. I am currently researching just what was done with surviving fragments of buildings in the old town. Contrary to popular opinion, the old town is not new, that is, it was not rebuilt from scratch. In almost every case, centuries old basements were preserved with their vaulting, often main floors survived sometimes with vaulting, in many cases whole facades survived. The ruins were often sifted for any components or bricks that could be reincorporated back into the historic buildings. In almost all cases surviving facades were preserved unless they were structurally unsound. Three of the buildings above in the centre have original interiors and there are another few buildings in the old town that have original interiors, but I have not had a chance to confirm yet.
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