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Old August 25th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #1
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* 35-50M tall buildings
* 60M is the tallest tower with permission for 130M building
* Square at the center of the scheme
* Compromises pocket parks
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:16 PM   #2
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #3
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Absolutely awful. So the developers are wanting to bring back 60's Leeds. My parents keep telling me we're moving backwards not forwards and now I believe them.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #4
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Absolutely awful. So the developers are wanting to bring back 60's Leeds. My parents keep telling me we're moving backwards not forwards and now I believe them.
Inspiration for the development- Granary Wharfe/Tower Works etc.

They use bricks and look decent imo.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #5
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Absolutely awful. So the developers are wanting to bring back 60's Leeds. My parents keep telling me we're moving backwards not forwards and now I believe them.
Are you on crack? The proposals look good.
There's a development in Bristol too with a building which is largely brick - looks great, check it out on the home counties forum.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #6
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I like it very much. Simple but the brickwork looks great and is in keeping with Granary Wharf and HUV, far better than the original scheme IMO. It reminds me of some of the new builds in the Kings Cross redevelopment.

Reading the old thread about city centre property prices is a bit painful, although some wise chap made a good prediction in the first page
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:23 PM   #7
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Interesting renders of the new proposals for the Green Bank site. Is there any indication as to when construction could potentially commence or is it something designed to increase the value of the site pending an improvement of the economy?
We have a high chance of construction I would think, the main giveaway in the brochure-

Prepared for Taylor Wimpey

An exert from there website

Taylor Wimpey are one of the largest homebuilders in the UK, operating from 24 regional offices across England, Scotland and Wales.

They are a very successful residential company, listed on the London stock exchange.

Yearly revenue is close to 1bn, H1 earning figures released 2012 an improvement over H1 2011.



YEP have a article on there rising profits, they also won the contract to build the Olympic park neighborhood for 300m

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/busin...fits-1-4794764

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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #8
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I kinda like it, if it's brick ala Granary Wharf.

Has the potential to be absolutely awful if done on the cheap though.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #9
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Planning Docs.

Brochure 1 & 2

A good read with plenty of images

http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc...df&pageCount=1

http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/doc...df&pageCount=1

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http://plandocs.leeds.gov.uk/WAM/sho...er=12/03459/FU

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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #10
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I think it's OK. Ways to improve it:

- A variety of heights to make it slightly more interesting/less inhuman, it's all practically the same height which is bland.

- I don't like the design of the taller building, yes it keeps with the style of the low rise majority but it's not doing anything for me.

- The masterplanning could be better, feels pretty cramped. I said earlier the density is good but I think it's almost too dense now I've looked at it with fresh eyes. Shadowing could be a problem which is obviously unrepresented in the renders.

- It doesn't seem to complement the riverside all that well, a break up in massing (smaller to higher floor stepping from the river) might be an idea.

- More trees, again, especially along the riverside.


That's my 2 pence worth, over and out!
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #11
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Here's one of the buildings in Bristol.. different colour, but still brick, and looks good

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v.../P12102731.jpg
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Old August 25th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #12
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I have a lot of faith in Fielden Clegg Bradley to produce an amazing scheme here... the architects gave us Broadcasting Place, and they won the Stirling Prize a few years ago with a beautiful housing scheme in Cambridge.

Just had a flick through the planning application... we've got nothing to worry about, the landscaping especially looks really good

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I kinda like it, if it's brick ala Granary Wharf.

Has the potential to be absolutely awful if done on the cheap though.

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I like it. It's going to blend in stylistically with Wellington Place, and the materials match those at Granary Wharf and Tower Works. It's also similar to the proposed Whitehall Riverside development. Another plus point is that Fielden Clegg Bradley are not Carey Jones. The tower could be more imaginative though.

I never really liked Green Bank, so this is a much better scheme. I think Smartcity has a point though. It needs to be high quality, otherwise it could end up like City Island, or worse, Lincoln Green.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #15
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Which one is Lincoln Green?
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Isn't it a rough area consisting of council flats?
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Old August 26th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #17
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Looking at the plans, it's a real shame that Globe Road runs along the waterfront. The first image on this page makes it look as if the waterfront will be the idyllic cafes/bars/joggers etc... but Globe Road is fairly busy, so I don't imagine north facing residents will really make use of their balconies, and certainly won't want to sit outside with the traffic racing past. The canalside area next to the taller building gets little sunlight, and really has to find a way of distancing itself from the traffic noises if it wants to be somewhere that people would want to spend time... or they'll just end up going to Granary Wharf.

The canal bridge connecting pedestrians to the city centre is probably the most important part of the scheme.

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I like it but my only gripe about it is that it doesn't make use of its riverside location. This would be the perfect location for a parade of bars and restuarants along the bank of the river like Quayside in Newcastle.

If the ground level apartments along the bank of the river were bars and restaurants, this development would be perfect.

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Old August 26th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #19
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I have a lot of faith in Fielden Clegg Bradley to produce an amazing scheme here... the architects gave us Broadcasting Place, and they won the Stirling Prize a few years ago with a beautiful housing scheme in Cambridge.

Just had a flick through the planning application... we've got nothing to worry about, the landscaping especially looks really good
I hope you are right.

Of most, I just detest the slabbyness and the all-round insensitivity of the large monolith like tower block. The scheme is decent but should the site have a tower, it needs to be designed well, in-keeping with the curvature of the East end where it is located would be great.

Anyway, the docs aren't much to go on so I'll reserve full judgement until more visuals are released.
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I hope you are right.

Of most, I just detest the slabbyness and the all-round insensitivity of the large monolith like tower block. The scheme is decent but should the site have a tower, it needs to be designed well, in-keeping with the curvature of the East end where it is located would be great.

Anyway, the docs aren't much to go on so I'll reserve full judgement until more visuals are released.
I agree, when you look at what Manc and Birmingham and even Liverpool have done with some of their new tower blocks, you will see sharp angles and curved structures which I think look fantastic. Whitehall Place has this type of design, but I would like to a much more creative design in the new buildings Leeds develops, and this tower just aint one of them, although the rest of the scheme is very good.
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