GENERAL DISCUSSION

[Marckymarc]

Originally Posted by warpus

Why? That's already 1/10th of a second into the game. Why not start the timer at 12:00?

Well I meant start it at 12:00 but that it should tick down immediately to 11:59.

Originally Posted by warpus

Yes.. A second passes from 12:00 to 11:59.. Shouldn't it?

No, because in America the clocks count fractions of a second during the last minute of play--in the last second of play the clock goes from 00:00.9 to 00:00.0. That means the clock should change immediately to 11:59.9 upon the start of play, not stay at 12:00.0 for a whole second (which would mean it's really representing 12:00.9)

Originally Posted by warpus

Wait, what? It does? WTF! Is this true?

They should just do it the way it's done in soccer, counting UPWARDS. Makes everything much less complicated

Yes because 1:00 is really 1:00.9

[warpus]

Originally Posted by Marckymarc

Yes because 1:00 is really 1:00.9

Eh, what?

I think you might have a real point with this thread here, and could even be right, but you are confusing the hell out of everyone with such strange claims.

If there IS an issue here, it would be.. why does the clock take a full second to go from 1:00.00 to 59.9 ? It should only take one tenth of a second

[Marckymarc]

Originally Posted by warpus

Eh, what?

I think you might have a real point with this thread here, and could even be right, but you are confusing the hell out of everyone with such strange claims.

If there IS an issue here, it would be.. why does the clock take a full second to go from 1:00.00 to 59.9 ? It should only take one tenth of a second

It doesn't. But it does take a full second to go from 1:00.99 to 59.9

If fractions were visible instead of hidden it would read 1:00.99 at the "beginning" of the second and 1:00.00 at the "end" of the second.

[Alemanniafan]

Originally Posted by Marckymarc

It doesn't. But it does take a full second to go from 1:00.99 to 59.9

If fractions were visible instead of hidden it would read 1:00.99 at the "beginning" of the second and 1:00.00 at the "end" of the second.

And that's why it'll show 1.01 for that second you're talking about, and then 1:00 just for 1/10th of a second beore it switches to 59.9.

Where is there a glitch then?

[Marckymarc]

Originally Posted by Alemanniafan

And that's why it'll show 1.01 for that second you're talking about, and then 1:00 just for 1/10th of a second beore it switches to 59.9.

Where is there a glitch then?

It does NOT show 1:00 for only 1/10 of a second. It shows 1:00 for an FULL second.

[en1044]

Check it. Here's proof that it takes one second to go from 1:00 to :59.9

[Alemanniafan]

Originally Posted by en1044

Check it. Here's proof that it takes one second to go from 1:00 to :59.9

But that's not the same clock as the clock in the other video.
This clock here woud have to tick down to 19:59 immediately if it rounds down. It's still not scientifically correct then, but at least a game would still end up lasting 20:00 minutes then.

A clock would have to do both for a game to last 20 minutes and one second. Take one full second to click down to 19:59 AND count a full second "twice" showing 1:00 for one and a 1/10th of a second before it clicks down to 59:9.

And even if you find a clock that does both, it still doesn't mean that ALL stadium clocks have a glitch, it just means that this one single clock has a glitch.

[Aceventura]

Good Lord! How did this thread get over 100 posts?

[warpus]

Can we at least all agree that 1:00 is NOT really 1:00.9 ?

[CharlieP]

Originally Posted by warpus

Can we at least all agree that 1:00 is NOT really 1:00.9 ?

Er, no. 1:00.9 is displayed on some clocks as just 1:00. This is what has caused all the argument.

[en1044]

Originally Posted by warpus

Can we at least all agree that 1:00 is NOT really 1:00.9 ?

How can't it be 1:00.9?

[Mo Rush]

I've noted quite a few times when threads are opened when there is a question or whether one element of a stadium or arena is being discussed.

Please move all those discussions here.

[Rev Stickleback]

Originally Posted by en1044

How can't it be 1:00.9?

Can you think of a single reason why an electronic timer, designed to count down from 1:00.0, would be deliberately set up to start at the incorrect time?

The number displayed is just a representation of the true time left. If it is displaying whole seconds it can either round up or down.

If it is rounding up, it would show 1:00 even if the true time left was 0:59.1

If it is rounding down, it would show 1:00 for a split second, then show 0:59 for a second.

Rounding down would also allow a clock to show 0:01 for a whole second, before switching to 0:00.9


The assumption being incorrectly made is that the clock starts showing 20:00 for a whole second, and finishes either by showing 00:00 for a whole second or show 00:00.9 to 00:00.1, then zero.

That is not happening. You will have one of the two below.

1) a rounding up clock, that will show...
20:00 for a whole second
00:02 for a whole second
00:01 for 1/10th of a second
00:00.9 to 00:00.1 for 9/10th of a second

2) a rounding down clock, that will show
20:00 until the clock is started on the first touch,
then instantly 19:59 for a second
down to...
00:01 for a whole second
00:00.9 to 00:00.0 for a 10th of a second each.


You need to get past the assumption of what the problem is and think about what a countdown timer is doing and how it works. It is not programmed to display a number, wait for a bit, then display the next number in the sequence.

[sweet-d]

Like you think to much the fact is stadiums clocks don't have glitches at least not in the U.S.

[lpioe]

Hey guys
Can you tell me the name of some archtitecture and engineering firms that are specialised in building stadiums? For example Populous or HKS. I need as many names as possible. Thanks.

[Mo Rush]

A reminder that you can talk about anything under the sun related to stadia, sports arenas and events, in this thread

[LADEN]

Euro qualifying tomorrow.

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by lpioe

Hey guys
Can you tell me the name of some archtitecture and engineering firms that are specialised in building stadiums? For example Populous or HKS. I need as many names as possible. Thanks.

Ellerbe Beckett, NBBJ, ECCB, back in the day Osborn Engineering.

[SanderNEC]

My own design of the dutch stadium Goffertstadion in Nijmegen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xx680mf8sc

[sleeksteel]

Hey, I'm new here..I was just wondering if someone could direct me to some detailed architectural plans of a football (soccer) stadium..I'm designing a stadium for my final year thesis and it would be of great help if a had a few more plans to study..Thanks in advance!!