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Old January 9th, 2015, 06:42 PM   #601
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Talking about possible 777s coming via Etihad:

http://www.flightradar24.com/reg/vt-alh


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OK here is the first of the A330s coming from Jet Airways via Etihad:

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...--Alitalia.php

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Old January 18th, 2015, 12:42 PM   #603
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Alitalia A320-200, "Jeep Renegade" (reg. EI-DSW)

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That just looks awful.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #606
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Anyway Alitalia and Etihad just had a Press conference unveiling the new Alitalia. http://blog.etihad.com/en/livestream-20jan15/
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Alitalia Pledges Profit by 2017 as Etihad Unveils Plans

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Alitalia SpA, the Italian airline propped up with an investment from Etihad Airways PJSC, said it aims to return to profitability by 2017 by improving its network and cooperating more with its new key shareholder on global routes.
Among new services that will become available from May is Venice-Shanghai, and the airline will also add flights to the Americas, Chairman Luca di Montezemolo said today in Rome, flanked by Etihad Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and the head of Alitalia, Silvano Cassano, who predicted a profit of 100 million euros ($116 million) by 2017.
Etihad bought a 49 percent stake in Alitalia last year, linking it to a growing network of airlines around the world that help the Abu-Dhabi based company funnel more traffic through its hub. Hogan said that Etihad can provide strategic and technological support, and cautioned that his company is “not a bank” and needs to see a return on its investment.
“We wouldn’t have invested in Alitalia if we hadn’t thought the industrial plan would be successful,” Hogan said. “I’ve been told not to say it but I do believe Alitalia can be the sexiest brand in Europe in aviation.”
Among changes presented today are closer links between Alitalia and Air Berlin Plc, the German carrier in which Etihad owns a stake, at Milan Linate. Milan’s Malpensa airport will be expanded into a major cargo hub, and Alitalia wants to become a premium carrier with better food and lounges, Cassano said.
New Routes

Routes will play a main role in reinvigorating the carrier, the CEO said, with Rome getting new connections to San Francisco, Mexico and Santiago in Chile, and new eastbound routes from the Italian capital to Beijing, Shanghai and Korea.
Milan gets flights to Tokyo and Shanghai, while the financial center, together with Rome, Venice, Catania and Bologna will all have direct services to Abu Dhabi.
To support the new route network, Alitalia will upgrade its fleet in coming years,and will look at tapping into Etihad’s 200-plane orderbook to source more long-haul jets, Cassano said. The Italian carrier already sold 14 Airbus A320 narrow-body airliners to Air Berlin, he said.
Montezemolo, who was chairman of Ferrari until last year, said Alitalia must refocus on assets such as its employees, its service culture and brand, as well as its expertise in global routes to return to profitability following a government-led bailout. The company has been historically unprofitable, and previous anchor investor Air-France KLM Group refused to participate in a capital increase after years of losses.
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Hogan, who said the Italian airline has a “public utility mentality, wants Etihad to be a long-term investor and will work alongside local management, according to the briefing.
‘‘There are no free kicks,’’ Hogan said. ‘‘We don’t have an endless reserve on cash. It’s very clear, we work alongside, provide support, but the direction of the company is in the hands of the Italian team.”
Etihad said separately that its partnership with Switzerland’s Darwin Airline, one of seven other carriers in addition to Alitalia that form a so-called equity alliance, is not in jeopardy, rejecting media reports to the contrary.
Hogan said in a statement that he’s committed to buying a 33.3 percent stake in the business, which trades as Etihad Regional, and will continue to work with regulators to win clearance for the plan.
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Alitalia eyes profit return, Hogan sees 'sexiest' airline

Rome, January 20 - Alitalia President Luca Cordero di Montezemolo said Tuesday that the industrial plan of the new company formed after the airline's tie-up with Etihad aims to "take the firm to profit in 2017". Montezemolo was presenting the plan after a board meeting on Monday.

The new Alitalia will be the world's "sexiest" airline after its tie-up with Etihad, James Hogan, who is Etihad's CEO and vice-president of the Italian airline, said. "Alitalia will be the sexiest company," Hogan said. He added that Etihad intends to be a "long-term" investor in Alitalia. "We wouldn't have embarked on this initiative if we weren't aiming for it to be profitable," he said. Hogan was also upbeat about the prospect of Alitalia making up for the jobs it had to shed as part of restructuring in the merger.

"New business will automatically create new jobs," he said. On Monday Alitalia's board of directors approved the 2015 budget, at the end of Montezemolo's first meeting as president. But budget targets have been revised, said the former Ferrari and Fiat chief. Alitalia was rescued by a massive injection of funds last year by its new partner Etihad Airways.

A new business plan was also discussed while outside, about 50 laid-off workers of the airline protested, carrying banners and signs. Etihad, based in the United Arab Emirates, demanded cuts of 2,250 jobs in exchange for its 387.5-million euro investment and 49% stake in Alitalia. The Italian government has said it has found ways to re-employ at least half of the affected workers. The former national airline, once known as Alitalia CAI has become Alitalia SAI - Società Aerea Italiana - with a greater focus on promoting tourism and trade in Italy, officials have said.

Under the deal finalized in August, the new Alitalia is expected to show a profit of 108 million euros in 2017, based on forecasted earnings of 3.7 billion euro, the airlines said in December. That is projected by the companies to rise to a profit of 212 million euros in 2023 and earnings of almost 4.5 billion euros.
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Fried air...

Mega hub at AUH with passengers of northern Italy that will be routed to the hub of the other airlines (as was done for 5 years with Air France/KLM).

In other words: nothing will change respect to the "Piano Fenice" presented in 2009 that led Alitalia one step away from grounding...
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Alitalia Pledges Profit by 2017 as Etihad Unveils Plans

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Alitalia SpA, the Italian airline propped up with an investment from Etihad Airways PJSC, said it aims to return to profitability by 2017 by improving its network and cooperating more with its new key shareholder on global routes.
Among new services that will become available from May is Venice-Shanghai, and the airline will also add flights to the Americas, Chairman Luca di Montezemolo said today in Rome, flanked by Etihad Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and the head of Alitalia, Silvano Cassano, who predicted a profit of 100 million euros ($116 million) by 2017.
Etihad bought a 49 percent stake in Alitalia last year, linking it to a growing network of airlines around the world that help the Abu-Dhabi based company funnel more traffic through its hub. Hogan said that Etihad can provide strategic and technological support, and cautioned that his company is “not a bank” and needs to see a return on its investment.
“We wouldn’t have invested in Alitalia if we hadn’t thought the industrial plan would be successful,” Hogan said. “I’ve been told not to say it but I do believe Alitalia can be the sexiest brand in Europe in aviation.”
Among changes presented today are closer links between Alitalia and Air Berlin Plc, the German carrier in which Etihad owns a stake, at Milan Linate. Milan’s Malpensa airport will be expanded into a major cargo hub, and Alitalia wants to become a premium carrier with better food and lounges, Cassano said.
New Routes

Routes will play a main role in reinvigorating the carrier, the CEO said, with Rome getting new connections to San Francisco, Mexico and Santiago in Chile, and new eastbound routes from the Italian capital to Beijing, Shanghai and Korea.
Milan gets flights to Tokyo and Shanghai, while the financial center, together with Rome, Venice, Catania and Bologna will all have direct services to Abu Dhabi.
To support the new route network, Alitalia will upgrade its fleet in coming years,and will look at tapping into Etihad’s 200-plane orderbook to source more long-haul jets, Cassano said. The Italian carrier already sold 14 Airbus A320 narrow-body airliners to Air Berlin, he said.
Montezemolo, who was chairman of Ferrari until last year, said Alitalia must refocus on assets such as its employees, its service culture and brand, as well as its expertise in global routes to return to profitability following a government-led bailout. The company has been historically unprofitable, and previous anchor investor Air-France KLM Group refused to participate in a capital increase after years of losses.
Darwin Pledge

Hogan, who said the Italian airline has a “public utility mentality, wants Etihad to be a long-term investor and will work alongside local management, according to the briefing.
‘‘There are no free kicks,’’ Hogan said. ‘‘We don’t have an endless reserve on cash. It’s very clear, we work alongside, provide support, but the direction of the company is in the hands of the Italian team.”
Etihad said separately that its partnership with Switzerland’s Darwin Airline, one of seven other carriers in addition to Alitalia that form a so-called equity alliance, is not in jeopardy, rejecting media reports to the contrary.
Hogan said in a statement that he’s committed to buying a 33.3 percent stake in the business, which trades as Etihad Regional, and will continue to work with regulators to win clearance for the plan.
I really hope AZ will restore a good chunk of its network, and I am looking forward to having Alitalia back here in San Francisco... I wonder, though, if it will be served by an A332 or B772, and if it will be a year-round service instead of seasonal only?

As for the new flights to Abu Dhabi from at least five points in Italy, will all of those be operated by Alitalia, or will there be a mix of both Alitalia and Etihad Airways operating to all of them? And, for the "new' flights from Milan to China, Japan, and Korea, I think some of them will be flight resumptions since Milan used to be the airline's long-haul hub for the airline.

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Mega hub at AUH with passengers of northern Italy that will be routed to the hub of the other airlines (as was done for 5 years with Air France/KLM).

In other words: nothing will change respect to the "Piano Fenice" presented in 2009 that led Alitalia one step away from grounding...
Well, it all depends on the circumstances of the partnership. Etihad has become a solid contender in Abu Dhabi, in which it handles a large chunk of transit traffic going beyond the UAE, and it will be a useful transit hub for passengers continuing to and from Asia, the Far East, and Oceania. Just wait and see.
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I really hope AZ will restore a good chunk of its network, and I am looking forward to having Alitalia back here in San Francisco... I wonder, though, if it will be served by an A332 or B772, and if it will be a year-round service instead of seasonal only?

As for the new flights to Abu Dhabi from at least five points in Italy, will all of those be operated by Alitalia, or will there be a mix of both Alitalia and Etihad Airways operating to all of them? And, for the "new' flights from Milan to China, Japan, and Korea, I think some of them will be flight resumptions since Milan used to be the airline's long-haul hub for the airline.
You may not created an long-haul hub if you have short/medium haul flights in a airport and long-haul flights in another airport.
The good choice for Alitalia and its finances would have been regroup all flights in one airport in Milan but this would have made difficult life to the roman hub.
Silvano Cassano said: "Linate will be our hub in North Italy", Linate hub is an insult to the human intelligence.
The only flight that they will open from Milan will be Shanghai and i don't know if they open them only for Expo or they will keep it open after Expo.
However, SFO i suppose that will be a seasonal service, you can't expect of go well in this destination, which is a United/Star Alliance major hub, if you don't go well to LAX who is an airport that have a good number of Delta routes.
The other routes from Italy to UAE will be operated from Alitalia: FCO with A330, MXP with B777 from NRT, VCE with A330 and BLQ and CTA with A320.
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How come Linate as a hub is an "insult" to you? I mean, yes, you also have Malpensa, but, what's the logic of having such a hub? Maybe you can clear it up for me since all I remember is, Linate serves mostly Schengen destinations while Malpensa offers a diverse set of destination options...
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How come Linate as a hub is an "insult" to you? I mean, yes, you also have Malpensa, but, what's the logic of having such a hub? Maybe you can clear it up for me since all I remember is, Linate serves mostly Schengen destinations while Malpensa offers a diverse set of destination options...
Linate is an insult because is little, old, ugly and is not able to handle other air traffic, i remember the years before the open of Malpensa T1: the queue for check-in started from the entrance (street) of the airport and delays was order of the day.
In addition a lot of money has been spent for the construction of Malpensa (which would have had replace Linate) then, as taxpayer, i would like it to be better used.

If you have the short/medium haul routes (especially national destination) in Linate at Malpensa there are not those flights that also serve to feed the long-haul flights so, don't expect openings other intercontinental flights from Milan especially those flights that need more passenger from other cities.
The Schengen destination that there is in Linate are the major european hub.
You try to imagine what would happen if Air France has short/medium haul flights at Orly with more links for FRA, AMS, LHR etc. and long haul flights at CDG: many of the intercontinental flights that it has would not exist because there is not alimentation from France and Europe and many parisians passengers prefer to do a transit in an european hub because Orly is nearby to the city
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Linate is an insult because is little, old, ugly and is not able to handle other air traffic, i remember the years before the open of Malpensa T1: the queue for check-in started from the entrance (street) of the airport and delays was order of the day.
In addition a lot of money has been spent for the construction of Malpensa (which would have had replace Linate) then, as taxpayer, i would like it to be better used.

If you have the short/medium haul routes (especially national destination) in Linate at Malpensa there are not those flights that also serve to feed the long-haul flights so, don't expect openings other intercontinental flights from Milan especially those flights that need more passenger from other cities.
The Schengen destination that there is in Linate are the major european hub.
You try to imagine what would happen if Air France has short/medium haul flights at Orly with more links for FRA, AMS, LHR etc. and long haul flights at CDG: many of the intercontinental flights that it has would not exist because there is not alimentation from France and Europe and many parisians passengers prefer to do a transit in an european hub because Orly is nearby to the city
So, if you think that Linate is old and unable to handle even more traffic, then I could propose this idea:

- Linate can take care of the LCCs and select European carriers that want the convenience of being close to Central Milan
- Malpensa will retain its position as the major airport for Milan, with European and intercontinental destinations

Has the Milanese government considered closing down Linate, though, in favor of consolidating all operations to Malpensa and shifting all LCCs to Bergamo? I mean, having three airports, all connected with good roads and public transportation, is great... it's just that, Linate may need to be maintained for short-haul destinations while Malpensa will take care of the core European destinations.
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Linate was what kept Malpensa from being a decent hub in the first place but it seems to be liked by the locals.
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Italy's airport system





North-West



North-East



Centre-North



Centre-South



South



Islands





2030 Forecast passenger per airport (in mln)
83/76 Roma Ciampino + Roma Fiumicino (Lazio)
46/42 Milano Malpensa (Lombardy)
16/12 Venezia (Veneto)
14/12 Bergamo (Lombardy)
13/10 Napoli (Campania)
12/10 Catania (Sicily)
11/9 Milano Linate (Lombardy)
11/9 Palermo (Sicily)
10/8 Bologna (Emilia Romagna)
8/6 Pisa (Tuscany)
7/6 Verona (Veneto)
7/5 Cagliari (Sardinia)
6.5/5.5 Torino (Piedmont)
5/4.2 Trapani (Sicily)
5/4 Bari (Apulia)
4/3 Firenze (Tuscany)
4/3 Olbia (Sardinia)
4/3 Treviso (Veneto)
4/2.5 Lamezia Terme (Calabria)
3/2 Alghero (Sardinia)
2.5/1.7 Genova (Liguria)
2/1 Brindisi (Apulia)
2/1 Comiso (Sicily)
2/1 Forlì (Emilia Romagna)
2/1 Parma (Emilia Romagna)
1.5/0.5 Brescia (Lombardy)
1.5/0.5 Cuneo (Piedmont)
1.4/1 Trieste (Friuli Venezia Giulia)
1.2/0.5 Rimini (Emilia Romagna)
1/0.5 Ancona (Marche)
1/0.3 Reggio Calabria (Calabria)
0.7/0.5 Pescara (Abruzzo)
0.5/0.2 Perugia (Umbria)
0.4/0.6 Crotone (Calabria)
0.4/0.6 Lampedusa (Sicily)
0.4/0.6 Pantelleria (Sicily)
0.4/0.2 Bolzano (Trentino Alto Adige)

2030 Forecast passenger per region (in mln)
83/76 Lazio (Centre-South)
72.5/63.5 Lombardy (North-West)
31.2/25 Sicily (Islands)
27/21 Veneto (North-East)
15.2/10.5 Emilia Romagna (Centre-North)
14/10 Sardinia (Islands)
13/10 Campania (South)
12/9 Tuscany (Centre-North)
8/6 Piedmont (North-West)
7/5 Apulia (South)
5.6/3.2 Calabria (South)
2.5/1.7 Liguria (North-West)
1.4/1 Friuli Venezia Giulia (North-East)
1/0.5 Marche (Centre-South)
0.7/0.5 Abruzzo (Centre-South)
0.5/0.2 Umbria (Centre-South)
0.4/0.2 Trentino Alto Adige (North-East)

2030 Forecast passenger per macroregion (in mln)
85.2/77.2 Centre-South
83/71.2 North-West
45.2/35 Islands
28.8/22.2 North-East
27.2/19.5 Centre-North
25.6/18.2 South

112.4/96.7 Central Italy (CN+CS)
111.8/93.4 Northern Italy (NW+NE)
70.8/53.2 Southern Italy (S+I)

295/243.3 ITALY

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Apparently latest news is the up and coming additions to the fleet will be the following:

A330-200 x 3
B777-200LR x 3
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Italy's airport system





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2030 Forecast passenger per airport (in mln)
83/76 Roma Ciampino + Roma Fiumicino (Lazio)
46/42 Milano Malpensa (Lombardy)
16/12 Venezia (Veneto)
14/12 Bergamo (Lombardy)
13/10 Napoli (Campania)
12/10 Catania (Sicily)
11/9 Milano Linate (Lombardy)
11/9 Palermo (Sicily)
10/8 Bologna (Emilia Romagna)
8/6 Pisa (Tuscany)
7/6 Verona (Veneto)
7/5 Cagliari (Sardinia)
6.5/5.5 Torino (Piedmont)
5/4.2 Trapani (Sicily)
5/4 Bari (Apulia)
4/3 Firenze (Tuscany)
4/3 Olbia (Sardinia)
4/3 Treviso (Veneto)
4/2.5 Lamezia Terme (Calabria)
3/2 Alghero (Sardinia)
2.5/1.7 Genova (Liguria)
2/1 Brindisi (Apulia)
2/1 Comiso (Sicily)
2/1 Forlì (Emilia Romagna)
2/1 Parma (Emilia Romagna)
1.5/0.5 Brescia (Lombardy)
1.5/0.5 Cuneo (Piedmont)
1.4/1 Trieste (Friuli Venezia Giulia)
1.2/0.5 Rimini (Emilia Romagna)
1/0.5 Ancona (Marche)
1/0.3 Reggio Calabria (Calabria)
0.7/0.5 Pescara (Abruzzo)
0.5/0.2 Perugia (Umbria)
0.4/0.6 Crotone (Calabria)
0.4/0.6 Lampedusa (Sicily)
0.4/0.6 Pantelleria (Sicily)
0.4/0.2 Bolzano (Trentino Alto Adige)

2030 Forecast passenger per region (in mln)
83/76 Lazio (Centre-South)
72.5/63.5 Lombardy (North-West)
31.2/25 Sicily (Islands)
27/21 Veneto (North-East)
15.2/10.5 Emilia Romagna (Centre-North)
14/10 Sardinia (Islands)
13/10 Campania (South)
12/9 Tuscany (Centre-North)
8/6 Piedmont (North-West)
7/5 Apulia (South)
5.6/3.2 Calabria (South)
2.5/1.7 Liguria (North-West)
1.4/1 Friuli Venezia Giulia (North-East)
1/0.5 Marche (Centre-South)
0.7/0.5 Abruzzo (Centre-South)
0.5/0.2 Umbria (Centre-South)
0.4/0.2 Trentino Alto Adige (North-East)

2030 Forecast passenger per macroregion (in mln)
85.2/77.2 Centre-South
83/71.2 North-West
45.2/35 Islands
28.8/22.2 North-East
27.2/19.5 Centre-North
25.6/18.2 South

112.4/96.7 Central Italy (CN+CS)
111.8/93.4 Northern Italy (NW+NE)
70.8/53.2 Southern Italy (S+I)

295/243.3 ITALY

When I first saw a similar post to this on the Geneva Airport thread, I said, "wow, I hope other countries can adopt these!" And I must say, those indeed look promising in terms of addressing current infrastructure to make airport accessibility better and more reliable than before. Perhaps I should have a similar study of that one here in CA to see how our airports perform...
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Apparently latest news is the up and coming additions to the fleet will be the following:

A330-200 x 3
B777-200LR x 3
B777-300ER x 2
Just read news AZ will add 5 B777s to its existing fleet of 10 B777-200ER's. These will be 2 x B777-200ER's & 3 x B777-300ER's with the aircraft likely sourced from EY. The aircraft will be used for new services to PEK, PVG, ICN, MEX, & SFO. Deliveries to commence in 2016.

Source: www.facebook.com/Airlinehubbuzz?ref=ts&fref=ts

This certainly doesn't come as a surprise
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