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Old June 6th, 2011, 12:51 PM   #101
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It will be great for places like West Brom having a link right into the heart of Brum and an easy connection to London and BHX.
There is already a metro link from West Bromwich centre, into Bham city centre.
Whilst I think the Brierley Hill (Merry hill Shopping Centre and Dudley) connection from Wednesbury is a great shout, I do think moreso that the next phase of the metro should be BHX and the NEC ideally following the A45 Coventry Road and therefore incorporating St Andrews, Swan Centre and Sheldon.
Not only is this just as useful for local people as the brierley Hill link, but from a tourist (both business and pleasure) perspective it would be much more utilised and be a selling point for the region.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 02:26 PM   #102
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What does the West Midlands LTP 3 have in relating to trams?
It has extension of the Metro to Brierley Hill and in Birmingham and Wolverhapton city centres and also mentions provison of rapid transit in several other places like the 5Ws route and to the NEC/ airport. These could be trams but will probably be Sprint based BRT at least at first.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #103
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I think it should run out to Halesowen via Quinton down the hagley road.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 12:40 AM   #104
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what i done understand is why they dont build the most profitable route first? or put the metro into areas which have poor transport links then use the money from there to pay new lines.... or is that what they actually do?
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Old June 7th, 2011, 12:43 AM   #105
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That is a good idea however we do need a line directly running through the city centre first.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 01:45 AM   #106
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Still think it should carry on from New Street Station under Queensway to Mailbox, then up the ramp past Alpha to Broad Street
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Old June 7th, 2011, 11:06 AM   #107
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The next extension to New Street should definately continue to Fiveways, this makes lots of sense. I consider Fiveways part of the city centre, as I do The childrens hospital, but to walk from one to another is a long old jaunt and should be connected by the metro.

The Airport link should be next though, it will be very well used and profitable.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #108
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I think Ladywood is in for a good shout, but I think we should look to connect it with Aston and Small Heath. Not only will they have the traffic for the football, but the car ownership in those areas is woefully low.

Cash cow me thinks. Obviously the bus companies might take a view on this.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 08:16 PM   #109
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Yeah I've often thought lines to the football grounds is a good idea, Edgebaston too. The Airport route would also be very popular.

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition for the Bus companies.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 01:23 AM   #110
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The next extension to New Street should definately continue to Fiveways, this makes lots of sense. I consider Fiveways part of the city centre, as I do The childrens hospital, but to walk from one to another is a long old jaunt and should be connected by the metro.
You can get buses down Broad Street, although I sometimes walk it, either via Paradise Forum and Cenenary Square, or the other side via Fletchers Walk. Can get fast buses to Colmore Row outside Tesco Five Ways.

Do you mean Broadway Plaza (home of the AMC and Bowlplex etc), as the Children's Hospital is now on Steelhouse Lane (in the old General Hospital building).
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Old June 8th, 2011, 03:09 AM   #111
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A Quinton/Hagley Road line up to the M5 (M5 parkway) would be a great idea. Always a busy route, Even at nights.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 04:37 PM   #112
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You can get buses down Broad Street, although I sometimes walk it, either via Paradise Forum and Cenenary Square, or the other side via Fletchers Walk. Can get fast buses to Colmore Row outside Tesco Five Ways.

Do you mean Broadway Plaza (home of the AMC and Bowlplex etc), as the Children's Hospital is now on Steelhouse Lane (in the old General Hospital building).
No i mean the current Childrens Hospital (maybe should have used Aston uni as an alternative example). I consider this area down Steelhouse Lane/Corporation st as being city centre. To get from here to fiveways (also what i consider city centre) is quite a trek, up and downhill, and I would say not possible on foot for quite a few people. My knowledge of the buses thesedays is poor, but I'm doubtful it's do-able in one direct bus journey and if so would take a lot longer than it should.
I think these parts of the city centre should be connected by the metro trams, even moreso when Eastside expands the city centre out even further this way.
It's when you look at Birmingham like this you realise the city centre is, and is becoming moreso long and narrow. From fiveways to eastside is a long stretch, but from great Charles St to the bullring is comparatively very short.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 09:28 PM   #113
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Steelhouse Lane is an easy walk from Snow Hill Station. Just head over Colmore Square past The Wesleyan and go straight down.

Buses such as the 23 and 29 go up Broad Street. And there routes into town go around Colmore Circus Queensway (past Steelhouse Lane), and onto Colmore Row.
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I walk everywhere nowadays to save money. You can save a lot you know.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #115
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Dudley needs a decent public transport system. Buses are all it has to offer.

If it had city status, would it be the only city in the UK not to have a rail service?

Dudley Port railway station is a good 3 miles out of town. Like having Birmingham's stations in Smethwick, or yikes, Wolverhampton's in Bilston.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #116
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Not only is this just as useful for local people as the brierley Hill link, but from a tourist (both business and pleasure) perspective it would be much more utilised and be a selling point for the region.
If you were a tourist, you would be going from BHX or NEC to the city centre, which would be by train in less than 10 minutes. I really can't see tourists getting a tram which takes 30+ minutes.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #117
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Steelhouse Lane is an easy walk from Snow Hill Station. Just head over Colmore Square past The Wesleyan and go straight down.

Buses such as the 23 and 29 go up Broad Street. And there routes into town go around Colmore Circus Queensway (past Steelhouse Lane), and onto Colmore Row.
New tram route is going down Steelhouse Lane. Stay on the tram to New Street, get on a bus from there to Five Ways.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 02:53 AM   #118
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Yeah I've often thought lines to the football grounds is a good idea, Edgebaston too. The Airport route would also be very popular.

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition for the Bus companies.
Totally agree.Villa Park was once served by trams in the fifties and early sixties but some bright spark got rid of them in the name of progress,HA.Now in the 21st century we are way behind our european cousins in terms of a reasonable public transport system.We are currently TRYING to put back what we originally had in the first place.British way of doing things i suppose.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM   #119
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New tram route is going down Steelhouse Lane. Stay on the tram to New Street, get on a bus from there to Five Ways.
Unless they are planning on changing the current extension it goes down bull street and right onto corporation street not steelhouse lane. Closest to steelhouse is skirting colmore circus.

Also with talk on bus routes it's redundant moaning about them now as per change to bus interchanges. Have go say having been up Manchester on Tuesday their circular free bus routes seem better than our planned clockwise and anti clockwise routes.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 11:48 AM   #120
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I walk everywhere nowadays to save money. You can save a lot you know.
I do too mate, and I know the city centre and particularly this area well (I worked in Steelhouse Lane for 4 years).

I was speaking though hypothetically, not everyone can walk about freely and IMO Birmingham is a bit of a nightmare for these people.
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