2010 Census

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 03:59 PM

The results from Florida's Cities and Counties are supposed to be released today. Miami should at least officially get over the 400,000 hump. A lot of cities have come in below their estimates though so we have to keep our fingers crossed.

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 05:25 PM

Can you delete these extra threads Q? As you can see SSC went a little crazy with my posting.

***QuantumX*** · March 17th, 2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dave8721

Can you delete these extra threads Q? As you can see SSC went a little crazy with my posting.

Yes, will do. It happened to somebody else as well.

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 08:12 PM

Wow.

The census numbers are in and Miami did NOT pass the 400,000 barrier (the census' 2009 estimates put Miami at 433,000). The "official" number for Miami is 399,457. Miami-Dade did not reach 2.5 million either. Miami-Dade came in at 2,495,435.

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 08:19 PM

The Counties (2010) (2000) (difference)
Miami-Dade: 2,496,435 2,253,362 +243,073
Broward: 1,748,066 1,623,018 +125,048
Palm Beach: 1,320,134 1,131,184 +188,950
South Florida: 5,564,635 5,007,564 +557,070

ftlauddude · March 17th, 2011, 09:59 PM

WOW! Palm Beach is growing fast! Good for them...

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ftlauddude

WOW! Palm Beach is growing fast! Good for them...

Percentage-wise it was the fastest of the 3. I'm sure in the future we'll see Miami-Dade's growth slow down to match Browards now that the 2 are pretty much built out.

dave8721 · March 17th, 2011, 10:42 PM

Here was the press release from the Census. Hialeah lost population.

http://2010.census.gov/news/releases...cb11-cn95.html

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U.S. Census Bureau Delivers Florida's 2010 Census Population Totals, Including First Look at Race and Hispanic Origin Data for Legislative Redistricting

The U.S. Census Bureau today released more detailed 2010 Census population totals and demographic characteristics to the governor and leadership of the state legislature in Florida. These data provide the first look at population counts for small areas and race, Hispanic origin, voting age and housing unit data released from the 2010 Census.

The official 2010 Census Redistricting Data Summary File can be used to redraw federal, state and local legislative districts under Public Law 94-171. The census data are used by state officials to realign congressional and state legislative districts in their states, taking into account population shifts since the 2000 Census.

Data for Florida show that the five most populous incorporated places and their 2010 Census counts are Jacksonville, 821,784; Miami, 399,457; Tampa, 335,709; St. Petersburg, 244,769; and Orlando, 238,300. Jacksonville grew by 11.7 percent since the 2000 Census. Miami grew by 10.2 percent, Tampa grew by 10.6 percent, St. Petersburg decreased by 1.4 percent, and Orlando grew by 28.2 percent.

The largest county is Miami-Dade, with a population of 2,496,435. Its population grew by 10.8 percent since 2000. The other counties in the top five include Broward, with a population of 1,748,066 (increase of 7.7 percent); Palm Beach, 1,320,134 (increase of 16.7 percent); Hillsborough, 1,229,226 (increase of 23.1 percent); and Orange, 1,145,956 (increase of 27.8 percent).

ftlauddude · March 17th, 2011, 11:25 PM

Yeah!

Miramar was the biggest gain in the whole metro area increasing 49,302 people from 72,739 to 122,041.

Then: Miami with 36,987 people from 362,470 to 399,457; Homestead with 28,603 people from 31,909 to 60,512; Doral with 25,266 people from 20,438 to 45,704; and last but not least Pompano Beach with 21,654 people from 78,191 to 99,845.

http://databases.sun-sentinel.com/ne...s2010_list.php

ftlauddude · March 17th, 2011, 11:38 PM

South Florida population growth slows, Census figures show.

Miami-Dade County’s population growth slowed to 10.8 percent in the last decade, and Broward County dropped to 7.7 percent.

By TOLUSE OLORUNNIPA
tolorunnipa@MiamiHerald.com

The growth of South Florida’s population slowed in the last decade compared to the explosive increases that were seen in the 1980s and 1990s, according to 2010 U.S. Census data released Thursday afternoon.

Miami-Dade County grew 10.8 percent to nearly 2.5 million people, up from 2.3 million in 2000. Broward County grew as well, up 7.7 percent to 1.7 million. Both county growth rates showed a slowdown in migration compared to earlier periods. For example, Miami-Dade grew 18.4 percent during the 1990s, and Broward grew 24.6 percent during the 1990s.

Statewide, population growth between 2000 and 2010 reached 17.6 percent, putting Florida at 18.8 million residents.

Florida saw its minority populations continue to increase. The Hispanic population grew 57.4 percent to 1.5 million. There were 664,357 more black residents in 2010 compared to 2000, an increase of 28.4 percent. The Asian population grew by 70.8 percent, jumping from 266,256 in 2000, to 454,821 in 2010.

Miami, at the center of South Florida’s largest building boom and bust, grew a modest 10.2 percent to 399,457 people, between 2000 and 2010, and remains Florida’s second most populous city behind Jacksonville (821,784).

While it is difficult to precisely nail down a racial and ethnic breakdown because residents are allowed to select more than one race or ethnicity, here is a rough outline for the state of Florida, based on Census figures:

• White, non-Hispanic: 57.9 percent
• Hispanic: 22.5 percent
• Black: 16 percent
• Asian: 2.4 percent

Race and ethnicity numbers for Florida’s cities and counties will be released soon.

Here are the population figures for South Florida’s other largest cities:

• Miami: 399,457 residents, up 10.2 percent
• Hialeah : 224,669, down 1.4 percent
• Fort Lauderdale: 165,521 residents, up 8.6 percent
• Pembroke Pines: 154,750 residents, up 8.6 percent
• Hollywood: 140,768 residents, up 1 percent
• Miramar: 122,041 residents, up 67.8 percent
• Coral Springs: 121,096, up 3.0 percent
• Miami Gardens: 107,167 residents, (not incorporated until 2003)
• Pompano Beach: 99,845, up 27.7 percent.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/1...#ixzz1GtYoH4yF

Hia-leah JDM · March 18th, 2011, 01:13 AM

I was not expecting that from Miami, but still pretty impressive after stagnant growth in the 90's. Everything from the counties was expected. I was actually expecting more of a loss from Hialeah since previous estimates (2009) had it at 218K and in previous estimates it had dipped even more. Margate and Sunrise also lost population.

The biggest gainers in raw numbers were Miramar, Miami, Homestead, Doral, and Pompano. Percentage wise Doral was the largest city with a 123% gain. Impressive.

Miami High Rise · March 18th, 2011, 08:00 AM

I thought I was the only one who went as far as to worry about the population.and make sure it was always going up to determine the status of a city.

I heard no mention of Miami Beach. How did Miami Beach do? The population of Miami Beach dropped significantly in the past two decades (1980-1990 and 1990-2000). Supossedly it was on he rise again according to the 2009 estimate, but not near where it was in 1980.

Miami High Rise · March 18th, 2011, 08:00 AM

I thought I was the only one who went as far as to worry about the population.and make sure it was always going up to determine the status of a city.

I heard no mention of Miami Beach. How did Miami Beach do? The population of Miami Beach dropped significantly in the past two decades (1980-1990 and 1990-2000). Supossedly it was on he rise again according to the 2009 estimate, but not near where it was in 1980.

URBANITY REPORTS · March 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM

I'M DISAPPOINTED

spellbound · March 18th, 2011, 10:00 AM

I don't find the numbers 'disappointing.' It's been evident for a decade or so that population growth in South Florida was slowing considerably, but it certainly hasn't stopped.

I'm not so sure the MSA would be healthier if it was seeing the kind of breakneck growth metro Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta (among others) continues to experience. Our infrastructure in everything from schools to transit is already underfunded and largely inadequate and pouring outrageous amounts of new residents into the mix would only exacerbate the problem, as I'm sure is the case in those aforementioned cities.

I think our nature with things like this is to sometimes look at is as a 'competition' of sorts...almost always siding with 'bigger is better' whether it's building height or population numbers or whatever, but the actual livability and vitality of a city (or metro region) isn't really based on that stuff at all, is it? It's based on how well (or poorly) each place is doing either coping with growth or having a healthy core despite lagging growth numbers.

South Florida has already seen it's greatest period of population growth and will now grow more slowly simply due to unalterable geographic realities. It will be passed by some other MSA's as the years go by, no question. I'm fine with that, though. A slower-growing tri-county is also one that has the possibilty of planning more intelligently and concentrating more on improving what is already there.

Don't be disappointed the whole world isn't beating a path to South Florida. To me, this slow-growth pattern is actually MUCH healthier long-term.

ftlauddude · March 18th, 2011, 03:25 PM

I totally agree with you! There's so much work to do to bring the metro area up to reasonable levels specially in transportation (airport, roadways, and mass transit).

Now, have you guys noticed that there are a lot of little towns with less than 1,000 people? How's that feasable in regards to finances? Those municipalities must depend on county jobs/money a lot!!!

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Originally Posted by Hia-leah JDM

Percentage wise Doral was the largest city with a 123% gain. Impressive.

Just call it the "Chavez" phenomenon...

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Originally Posted by Miami High Rise

I heard no mention of Miami Beach. How did Miami Beach do? The population of Miami Beach dropped significantly in the past two decades (1980-1990 and 1990-2000). Supossedly it was on he rise again according to the 2009 estimate, but not near where it was in 1980.

It lost 154 people going from 87,933 to 87,779.

dave8721 · March 18th, 2011, 08:29 PM

Miami-Dade County population growth over the years. Didn't know there was such a large population loss between 1840 and 1860:

1840: 446
1850: 159 −64.3%
1860: 83 −47.8%
1870: 85 2.4%
1880: 257 202.4%
1890: 861 235.0%
1900: 4,955 475.5% +4,094
1910: 11,933 140.8% +6,978
1920: 42,753 258.3% +30,820
1930: 142,955 234.4% +100,202
1940: 267,739 87.3% +124,784
1950: 495,084 84.9% +227,345
1960: 935,047 88.9% +439,963
1970: 1,267,792 35.6% +332,745
1980: 1,625,781 28.2% +357,989
1990: 1,937,094 19.1% +311,313
2000: 2,253,362 16.3% +316,268
2010: 2,496,435 10.8% +243,073

Hia-leah JDM · March 18th, 2011, 09:28 PM

I'm sure we were all expecting more from Miami, and I'm still sure that Miami was severely under counted, but keep in mind that during the previous decade (90's) Miami grew a whopping 3,992 people. During the 70's and 80's Miami barely grew by more than 10K, while the rest of South Florida boomed. So nearly 40K people is really impressive, especially when the rest of South Florida has slowed down save for two or three suburban towns.

spellbound · March 18th, 2011, 09:36 PM

Agreed.

It's probably a safe bet every city with a sizable immigrant/undocumented population was undercounted...which these days is just about any large American city...so I'd say Miami is one of many in that regard (and probably much less than L.A. or some otheer Southwestern cities in that regard, actually).

It's an inexact science, to be sure. It's a shame so many have a fear of responding to census questionnaires, but I think much of the recent anti-immigrant sentiment across the country probably contributes to that hesitancy.

dave8721 · March 18th, 2011, 09:39 PM

The City of Miami's numbers over the years. The 2000's (the Manny Diaz years) saw a huge reversal after years of relative stagnation:

1900: 1,681
1910: 5,471
1920: 29,549 +24,078 (440.1%)
1930: 110,637 +81,088 (274.4%)
1940: 172,172 +61,535 (55.6%)
1950: 249,276 +77,104 (44.8%)
1960: 291,688 +42,412 (17.0%)
1970: 334,859 +43,171 (14.8%)
1980: 346,865 +12,006 (3.6%)
1990: 358,548 +11,683 (3.4%)
2000: 362,470 +3,922 (1.1%)
2010: 399,457 +36,987 (10.2%)

March 17th, 2011, 03:59 PM	#1
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	2010 Census The results from Florida's Cities and Counties are supposed to be released today. Miami should at least officially get over the 400,000 hump. A lot of cities have come in below their estimates though so we have to keep our fingers crossed.

March 17th, 2011, 09:59 PM	#6
ftlauddude Ça va? Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 3,198 Likes (Received): 6	WOW! Palm Beach is growing fast! Good for them... __________________ Je suis à Ft Laud, et vous? From the Land of the Lacoste...

March 17th, 2011, 11:25 PM	#9
ftlauddude Ça va? Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 3,198 Likes (Received): 6	Yeah! Miramar was the biggest gain in the whole metro area increasing 49,302 people from 72,739 to 122,041. Then: Miami with 36,987 people from 362,470 to 399,457; Homestead with 28,603 people from 31,909 to 60,512; Doral with 25,266 people from 20,438 to 45,704; and last but not least Pompano Beach with 21,654 people from 78,191 to 99,845. http://databases.sun-sentinel.com/ne...s2010_list.php __________________ Je suis à Ft Laud, et vous? From the Land of the Lacoste...

March 17th, 2011, 11:38 PM	#10
ftlauddude Ça va? Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 3,198 Likes (Received): 6	South Florida population growth slows, Census figures show. Miami-Dade County’s population growth slowed to 10.8 percent in the last decade, and Broward County dropped to 7.7 percent. By TOLUSE OLORUNNIPA tolorunnipa@MiamiHerald.com The growth of South Florida’s population slowed in the last decade compared to the explosive increases that were seen in the 1980s and 1990s, according to 2010 U.S. Census data released Thursday afternoon. Miami-Dade County grew 10.8 percent to nearly 2.5 million people, up from 2.3 million in 2000. Broward County grew as well, up 7.7 percent to 1.7 million. Both county growth rates showed a slowdown in migration compared to earlier periods. For example, Miami-Dade grew 18.4 percent during the 1990s, and Broward grew 24.6 percent during the 1990s. Statewide, population growth between 2000 and 2010 reached 17.6 percent, putting Florida at 18.8 million residents. Florida saw its minority populations continue to increase. The Hispanic population grew 57.4 percent to 1.5 million. There were 664,357 more black residents in 2010 compared to 2000, an increase of 28.4 percent. The Asian population grew by 70.8 percent, jumping from 266,256 in 2000, to 454,821 in 2010. Miami, at the center of South Florida’s largest building boom and bust, grew a modest 10.2 percent to 399,457 people, between 2000 and 2010, and remains Florida’s second most populous city behind Jacksonville (821,784). While it is difficult to precisely nail down a racial and ethnic breakdown because residents are allowed to select more than one race or ethnicity, here is a rough outline for the state of Florida, based on Census figures: • White, non-Hispanic: 57.9 percent • Hispanic: 22.5 percent • Black: 16 percent • Asian: 2.4 percent Race and ethnicity numbers for Florida’s cities and counties will be released soon. Here are the population figures for South Florida’s other largest cities: • Miami: 399,457 residents, up 10.2 percent • Hialeah : 224,669, down 1.4 percent • Fort Lauderdale: 165,521 residents, up 8.6 percent • Pembroke Pines: 154,750 residents, up 8.6 percent • Hollywood: 140,768 residents, up 1 percent • Miramar: 122,041 residents, up 67.8 percent • Coral Springs: 121,096, up 3.0 percent • Miami Gardens: 107,167 residents, (not incorporated until 2003) • Pompano Beach: 99,845, up 27.7 percent. Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/1...#ixzz1GtYoH4yF __________________ Je suis à Ft Laud, et vous? From the Land of the Lacoste...

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March 17th, 2011, 05:25 PM	#2
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	Can you delete these extra threads Q? As you can see SSC went a little crazy with my posting.

March 17th, 2011, 08:12 PM	#4
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	Wow. The census numbers are in and Miami did NOT pass the 400,000 barrier (the census' 2009 estimates put Miami at 433,000). The "official" number for Miami is 399,457. Miami-Dade did not reach 2.5 million either. Miami-Dade came in at 2,495,435.

March 17th, 2011, 08:19 PM	#5
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	The Counties (2010) (2000) (difference) Miami-Dade: 2,496,435 2,253,362 +243,073 Broward: 1,748,066 1,623,018 +125,048 Palm Beach: 1,320,134 1,131,184 +188,950 South Florida: 5,564,635 5,007,564 +557,070

March 18th, 2011, 01:13 AM	#11
Hia-leah JDM Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,794 Likes (Received): 35	I was not expecting that from Miami, but still pretty impressive after stagnant growth in the 90's. Everything from the counties was expected. I was actually expecting more of a loss from Hialeah since previous estimates (2009) had it at 218K and in previous estimates it had dipped even more. Margate and Sunrise also lost population. The biggest gainers in raw numbers were Miramar, Miami, Homestead, Doral, and Pompano. Percentage wise Doral was the largest city with a 123% gain. Impressive.

March 18th, 2011, 08:00 AM	#12
Miami High Rise Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 1,233 Likes (Received): 0	I thought I was the only one who went as far as to worry about the population.and make sure it was always going up to determine the status of a city. I heard no mention of Miami Beach. How did Miami Beach do? The population of Miami Beach dropped significantly in the past two decades (1980-1990 and 1990-2000). Supossedly it was on he rise again according to the 2009 estimate, but not near where it was in 1980.

March 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM	#14
URBANITY REPORTS BANNED Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: マイアミ Posts: 701 Likes (Received): 0	I'M DISAPPOINTED

March 18th, 2011, 10:00 AM	#15
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,136 Likes (Received): 28	I don't find the numbers 'disappointing.' It's been evident for a decade or so that population growth in South Florida was slowing considerably, but it certainly hasn't stopped. I'm not so sure the MSA would be healthier if it was seeing the kind of breakneck growth metro Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta (among others) continues to experience. Our infrastructure in everything from schools to transit is already underfunded and largely inadequate and pouring outrageous amounts of new residents into the mix would only exacerbate the problem, as I'm sure is the case in those aforementioned cities. I think our nature with things like this is to sometimes look at is as a 'competition' of sorts...almost always siding with 'bigger is better' whether it's building height or population numbers or whatever, but the actual livability and vitality of a city (or metro region) isn't really based on that stuff at all, is it? It's based on how well (or poorly) each place is doing either coping with growth or having a healthy core despite lagging growth numbers. South Florida has already seen it's greatest period of population growth and will now grow more slowly simply due to unalterable geographic realities. It will be passed by some other MSA's as the years go by, no question. I'm fine with that, though. A slower-growing tri-county is also one that has the possibilty of planning more intelligently and concentrating more on improving what is already there. Don't be disappointed the whole world isn't beating a path to South Florida. To me, this slow-growth pattern is actually MUCH healthier long-term.

March 18th, 2011, 08:29 PM	#17
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	Miami-Dade County population growth over the years. Didn't know there was such a large population loss between 1840 and 1860: 1840: 446 1850: 159 −64.3% 1860: 83 −47.8% 1870: 85 2.4% 1880: 257 202.4% 1890: 861 235.0% 1900: 4,955 475.5% +4,094 1910: 11,933 140.8% +6,978 1920: 42,753 258.3% +30,820 1930: 142,955 234.4% +100,202 1940: 267,739 87.3% +124,784 1950: 495,084 84.9% +227,345 1960: 935,047 88.9% +439,963 1970: 1,267,792 35.6% +332,745 1980: 1,625,781 28.2% +357,989 1990: 1,937,094 19.1% +311,313 2000: 2,253,362 16.3% +316,268 2010: 2,496,435 10.8% +243,073

March 18th, 2011, 09:28 PM	#18
Hia-leah JDM Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,794 Likes (Received): 35	I'm sure we were all expecting more from Miami, and I'm still sure that Miami was severely under counted, but keep in mind that during the previous decade (90's) Miami grew a whopping 3,992 people. During the 70's and 80's Miami barely grew by more than 10K, while the rest of South Florida boomed. So nearly 40K people is really impressive, especially when the rest of South Florida has slowed down save for two or three suburban towns.

March 18th, 2011, 09:36 PM	#19
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,136 Likes (Received): 28	Agreed. It's probably a safe bet every city with a sizable immigrant/undocumented population was undercounted...which these days is just about any large American city...so I'd say Miami is one of many in that regard (and probably much less than L.A. or some otheer Southwestern cities in that regard, actually). It's an inexact science, to be sure. It's a shame so many have a fear of responding to census questionnaires, but I think much of the recent anti-immigrant sentiment across the country probably contributes to that hesitancy.

March 18th, 2011, 09:39 PM	#20
dave8721 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami and Boston Posts: 4,727 Likes (Received): 21	The City of Miami's numbers over the years. The 2000's (the Manny Diaz years) saw a huge reversal after years of relative stagnation: 1900: 1,681 1910: 5,471 1920: 29,549 +24,078 (440.1%) 1930: 110,637 +81,088 (274.4%) 1940: 172,172 +61,535 (55.6%) 1950: 249,276 +77,104 (44.8%) 1960: 291,688 +42,412 (17.0%) 1970: 334,859 +43,171 (14.8%) 1980: 346,865 +12,006 (3.6%) 1990: 358,548 +11,683 (3.4%) 2000: 362,470 +3,922 (1.1%) 2010: 399,457 +36,987 (10.2%)