NZ | Shopping Malls

[ItalicSiciliano]

For all things pertaining to shopping malls in New Zealand.

[ItalicSiciliano]

These are the biggest shopping malls in NZ (over 50,000 square meters):


* THE BASE (61.600 square feet - opened in 2005 – floor 1 – retail store 100+) Hamilton
http://www.the-base.co.nz/

* SYLVIA PARK (60.000 – 2007- 2 – 204+) Auckland
http://www.sylviapark.org/

* WESTFIELD RICCARTON (55.150 – 1965 – 2 - 200) Christchurch
http://westfield.co.nz/riccarton/

* WESTFIELD ALBANY (53.150 – 2007 – 2 - 150) Auckland
http://westfield.co.nz/albany/

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But now, we begin to talk about what shops at the international level, are not present in NZ. To you the word.

[Milan Luka]

Fair enough, apparently they are a necessary evil.

From a Christchurch perspective I'll start with Riccarton which has become the de facto cbd. The amount of traffic around it and Northlands was atrocious at the best of times but now is unbelievable. Even an Aucklander would be horrified.

As for the other megamalls here- Eastgate and the Palms.

[Shayno]

Are they gone? The Palms used to be the closest one to me when I lived in St.Albans. Only good thing about it was the Oporto. And the Library next to it.

[Indictable]

Mate works at Palms, opening within a few months at most. Eastgate has to have a whole row of shops demolished, Famers, Warehouse and Countdown opening soon.

[Mr_kiwi_fruit]

Sylvia park



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[ItalicSiciliano]

Which of these stores would you like that would open in the downtown streets in cities like Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch?

FRANCAISE
Azzaro
http://www.azzaroparis.com/

Cacharel
http://www.cacharel.fr/english/index-eng.html

Celine
http://www.celine.com/

Celio
http://www.celio.com/

Chanel
http://www.chanel.com/

Christian Dior
http://www.dior.com/file/prehome_new/index.html

Decathlon
http://www.decathlon.com/

Hermes
http://www.hermes.com/

Kenzo
http://www.kenzo.com/

Lacoste
http://www.lacoste.com/

Le Coq Sportif
http://www.lecoqsportif.com/

Moncler
http://www.moncler.com/

Louis Vuitton
http://www.louisvuitton.com/

Sephora
http://www.sephora.com/international.jhtml

Yves Saint Laurent
http://www.ysl.com/

ITALIAN
A-Style
http://www.a-styleworld.com/

Armani
http://www.armani.com/

Benetton
http://www.benetton.com/portal/web/guest/home

Bottega Veneta
http://world.bottegaveneta.com/

Bulgari
http://www.bulgari.com/

Roberto Cavalli
http://www.robertocavalli.com/welcome.do

Diesel
http://www.diesel.com/

Dolce & Gabbana
http://www.dolcegabbana.com/

Dsquared²
http://www.dsquared2.com/

Ermanno Scervino
http://www.ermannoscervino.com/

Fendi
http://www.fendi.com/

Gas Jeans
http://www.gasjeans.com/

Geox
http://www.geox.com/

Gucci
http://www.gucci.com/int/home

Hogan
http://www.hoganworld.com/#/en

Liu Jo
http://www.liujo.com/

Max Mara
http://www.maxmara.com/en/Home-Page

Moschino
http://www.moschino.com/

Pinko
http://www.pinko.it/home.asp

Prada
http://www.prada.com/

Sasch
http://www.sasch.it/web/eng/home.asp

Stefanel
http://www.stefanel.com/

Sergio Tacchini
http://shop.sergiotacchini.com/

Tod’s
http://www.tods.com/

Trussardi
http://www.trussardi.com/

Valentino
http://www.valentino.com/

Versace
http://www.versace.com/en

SPANISH
Zara
http://www.zara.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/worldwide

Pull and Bear
http://www.pullbear.com/

Bershka
http://www.bershka.com/english/index.php?

Oysho
http://www.oysho.com/en/

Stradivarius
http://www.e-stradivarius.com/

SWEDISH
H&M
http://www.hm.com/entrance.ahtml?orguri=/

AMERICAN
Calvin Klein
http://www.calvinkleininc.com/SelectLanguage.aspx

Guess
http://www.guess.eu/Guess/EN

Levi
http://us.levi.com/home/index.jsp


I do not come into mind ...
Now you posted!
In the meantime, I put pictures of some stores, I made some time ago in Milan ...

[KiwiRob]

I miss shopping malls, shopping in Norway (Scandinavia in general has the same problem)is an annoying process, you have to drive all over the place to get things you want, even the bigger cities have terrible shopping malls, most are aboput the size of Shore City or Glenfield Mall, nothing remotely the size of any of Aucklands bigger malls. They haven't even worked out the Food Hall concept, nor have they worked out express checkouts in supermarkets either.

People on this forum tend to hate malls but compared to the alternative they are much better IMO.

[Svartmetall]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

I miss shopping malls, shopping in Norway (Scandinavia in general has the same problem)is an annoying process, you have to drive all over the place to get things you want, even the bigger cities have terrible shopping malls, most are aboput the size of Shore City or Glenfield Mall, nothing remotely the size of any of Aucklands bigger malls. They haven't even worked out the Food Hall concept, nor have they worked out express checkouts in supermarkets either.

People on this forum tend to hate malls but compared to the alternative they are much better IMO.

Not the whole of Scandinavia at all, you might be talking about Norway only. I know that Sweden has decentralised shopping areas in each neighbourhood most of them on a tram line or (in Stockholm) on the tunnelbana. Also, the largest malls there are approximately double the size of the largest malls in NZ. Denmark I don't know about I'm afraid, not been there.

Also, shopping in most of Europe is outside of malls. Most people enjoy going to the city centre and walking around to do their shopping, it's done for fun rather than simply in one, sterile mall. This is reflected in the offerings in many European city centres compared to New Zealand where shopping is a bit lacking (though size-wise it is better than Sydney which I think has quite attrocious shopping).

[ItalicSiciliano]

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

Not the whole of Scandinavia at all, you might be talking about Norway only. I know that Sweden has decentralised shopping areas in each neighbourhood most of them on a tram line or (in Stockholm) on the tunnelbana. Also, the largest malls there are approximately double the size of the largest malls in NZ. Denmark I don't know about I'm afraid, not been there.

Also, shopping in most of Europe is outside of malls. Most people enjoy going to the city centre and walking around to do their shopping, it's done for fun rather than simply in one, sterile mall. This is reflected in the offerings in many European city centres compared to New Zealand where shopping is a bit lacking (though size-wise it is better than Sydney which I think has quite attrocious shopping).

It 's true what you say. In Italy the situation between the city center and shopping malls is like a war ... At the heart of big cities are the luxury, the things that cost more as the big brands, and all that attracts tourists who come specifically hypothetical well as cities close to shopping.

In the shopping malls are concentrated "accessible" or those where you pay less than those in the city center, and are also always accompanied by large anchors of hypermarkets, electronics shops, numerous cinemas, food court and many other services .

Then there is the struggle between a mall and another in the same city. To survive we organize events, are invited guests of the TV as conductors, dancers, winners of the talent show ...

Another comparison is against the Village Outlet Shopping Centers. The Outlet Village is like an outdoor mall, offers major brands (even luxurious) with discounts up to 70%.

[ItalicSiciliano]

Would you like in central Auckland, a beautiful glass cube as the one on Fifth Avenue?



In a few words in favor or against the opening of an Apple store?

Apple has over 300 stores spread across the U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Switzerland and China.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

Not the whole of Scandinavia at all, you might be talking about Norway only. I know that Sweden has decentralised shopping areas in each neighbourhood most of them on a tram line or (in Stockholm) on the tunnelbana. Also, the largest malls there are approximately double the size of the largest malls in NZ. Denmark I don't know about I'm afraid, not been there.

Also, shopping in most of Europe is outside of malls. Most people enjoy going to the city centre and walking around to do their shopping, it's done for fun rather than simply in one, sterile mall. This is reflected in the offerings in many European city centres compared to New Zealand where shopping is a bit lacking (though size-wise it is better than Sydney which I think has quite attrocious shopping).

Size wise?

Check Sydney out at the end of this year, it's shopping offering will be epic, by Oz/NZ standards anyway

[KiwiRob]

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

Not the whole of Scandinavia at all, you might be talking about Norway only. I know that Sweden has decentralised shopping areas in each neighbourhood most of them on a tram line or (in Stockholm) on the tunnelbana. Also, the largest malls there are approximately double the size of the largest malls in NZ. Denmark I don't know about I'm afraid, not been there.

Nordstan in Goteborg is the largest mall in Scandinavia with approx 180 stores, Farsta Centrum is the largest in Stockholm with 120 odd shops, both smaller than Sylvia Park, I don't think any of them are as good as Sylvia Park, Westfield Albany or Botany.

Svartmetall have you lived in Sweden or are you a frequent visitor?

Where I live the main shopping street is slowly dying, loads of empty shops, I think the main problem is no free parking, so people visit the small malls approx 1km from the city centre, if they want to make a vibrant centre then need to either charge for parking in the malls or make parking in the city centre free. People here have to drive since the local bus service would makes Auckland's look impressive.

[Svartmetall]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Nordstan in Goteborg is the largest mall in Scandinavia with approx 180 stores, Farsta Centrum is the largest in Stockholm with 120 odd shops, both smaller than Sylvia Park, I don't think any of them are as good as Sylvia Park, Westfield Albany or Botany.

Svartmetall have you lived in Sweden or are you a frequent visitor?

Where I live the main shopping street is slowly dying, loads of empty shops, I think the main problem is no free parking, so people visit the small malls approx 1km from the city centre, if they want to make a vibrant centre then need to either charge for parking in the malls or make parking in the city centre free. People here have to drive since the local bus service would makes Auckland's look impressive.

That's a real shame to hear about the Norwegian situation. Even in towns of 25,000 in Sweden there appeared to be a bus service operating every 30 minutes which is approximately the average Auckland frequency so I can't complain about the buses there. Any smaller towns and you were within walking distance of the centre.

PS: I wasn't talking about the number of shops, I was talking about the size of the shopping malls: Nordistan is 320,000m2 of mall area to use the NZ measurement rather than total shopping area (70,000m2). Mall of Scandinavia is under construction in Stockholm at Arenastaden and will feature 250 shops and 100,000m2 of shopping area. Skärholmen Centrum in Stockholm also has 200+ stores, must bigger than Farsta Centrum. Thankfully the main streets in Sweden are very much still the place of choice judging from their popularity (and wide range of stores). Central Stockholm is definitely infinitely better (and well connected) compared to the malls in the suburbs whereas I would say that the best shopping experience in Auckland (and possibly NZ) is definitely to be found at either Botany or Sylvia Park.

Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit

Size wise?

Check Sydney out at the end of this year, it's shopping offering will be epic, by Oz/NZ standards anyway

I guess I just expected more from such a big city. The brands on offer in Sydney are not too dissimilar (apart from some of the ultra luxury brands) from the brands we get in Auckland and that was disappointing. There appeared to be too little at the "affordable" spectrum of shopping.

[Indictable]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Nordstan in Goteborg is the largest mall in Scandinavia with approx 180 stores, Farsta Centrum is the largest in Stockholm with 120 odd shops, both smaller than Sylvia Park, I don't think any of them are as good as Sylvia Park, Westfield Albany or Botany.

When I first moved to NZ I was surprised that a city bigger than Adelaide had it's largest mall at what, 200 shops? I think malls work in places that are large and spread out. Such as Auckland, Hutt Valley and Paraparaumu. They don't work in Dunedin or Christchurch because the centre is so close! Dunners has one I think.. and thats in the city! Christchurch doesn't need 100000000 malls with the same old same old. Malls are bad news in cities like Chch or Dunners IMO. Work in major cities without a doubt.

[UglyBob]

Originally Posted by Indictable

When I first moved to NZ I was surprised that a city bigger than Adelaide had it's largest mall at what, 200 shops? I think malls work in places that are large and spread out. Such as Auckland, Hutt Valley and Paraparaumu. They don't work in Dunedin or Christchurch because the centre is so close! Dunners has one I think.. and thats in the city! Christchurch doesn't need 100000000 malls with the same old same old. Malls are bad news in cities like Chch or Dunners IMO. Work in major cities without a doubt.

Yes, Dunedin CBD has the linked Meridian, Golden Centre and Wall St malls providing about 100 shops in total across them. Large suburban malls in places like Mosgiel or Fairfield (as proposed from time to time) would really hurt the central city.

Not sure that I agree about the Hutt Valley. Queensgate in Lower Hutt has killed off a lot of the shops in the surrounding city streets and although it's not solely due to the influence of Queensgate, shopping in places like Upper Hutt is very poor because locals either go to the mall or into Wellington.

[Richard7666]

Dunedin's CBD mall complex (Meridian/Golden Centre/Wall St) is brilliant. Suburban malls would detract from the very vibrant CBD the city has.

[Svartmetall]

Originally Posted by Richard7666

Dunedin's CBD mall complex (Meridian/Golden Centre/Wall St) is brilliant. Suburban malls would detract from the very vibrant CBD the city has.

Agreed. Inner city malls like that are fantastic as they can incorporate a pedestrianised street with street shopping too. Most "walkable" PT cities around the world use that concept.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Originally Posted by Svartmetall

That's a real shame to hear about the Norwegian situation. Even in towns of 25,000 in Sweden there appeared to be a bus service operating every 30 minutes which is approximately the average Auckland frequency so I can't complain about the buses there. Any smaller towns and you were within walking distance of the centre.

PS: I wasn't talking about the number of shops, I was talking about the size of the shopping malls: Nordistan is 320,000m2 of mall area to use the NZ measurement rather than total shopping area (70,000m2). Mall of Scandinavia is under construction in Stockholm at Arenastaden and will feature 250 shops and 100,000m2 of shopping area. Skärholmen Centrum in Stockholm also has 200+ stores, must bigger than Farsta Centrum. Thankfully the main streets in Sweden are very much still the place of choice judging from their popularity (and wide range of stores). Central Stockholm is definitely infinitely better (and well connected) compared to the malls in the suburbs whereas I would say that the best shopping experience in Auckland (and possibly NZ) is definitely to be found at either Botany or Sylvia Park.




I guess I just expected more from such a big city. The brands on offer in Sydney are not too dissimilar (apart from some of the ultra luxury brands) from the brands we get in Auckland and that was disappointing. There appeared to be too little at the "affordable" spectrum of shopping.

Couldn't agree more. Sorry for kind of spamming the thread but I'll just write this

Sydney has plenty at the higher end of the scale, from both Australia and overseas, but there has never been much in the mid range. Things have begun to change with the new Westfield on Pitt Street Mall. It is sort of divided into precincts. The urban level is for 'street brands' (Adidas Originals, Henleys, Le Coq Sportif, Superdry) niche retailers (100 Squared, Capsule, Sneakerology, Streetology) and chain stores (Cotton On, General Pants Co, Nike, Supre).

The Pitt Street Mall level is largely the domain of national and international chain stores such as Australia's first Zara (3 st/1830 sq m), the Southern Hemisphere's largest Esprit (3 st/1412 sq m), Sydney's first Gap (1 st/807 sq m), the Southern Hemisphere's largest Guess (2 st/560 sq m) as well as standard high street stores like Aldo, DKNY Jeans, French Connection, Nespresso, Cue, Sportsgirl etc.

Levels 3 and 4 are the domain of the luxe brands such as Australia's first Bottega Veneta, Christian Louboutin, Diane von Furstenberg, Mulberry and Tumi stores as well as new stores by Chanel, Escada, Georg Jensen, Salvatore Ferragamo and Versace. Ermenegildo Zegna, Gucci, Miu Miu, Prada are all opening dual storey flagship stores on these levels. There's also Harrolds, Australia's luxury department store for men, and Peter Sheppard, claiming to be the biggest shoe store in the world.

The upper levels are home to restaurants, food outlets and leisure retailers like JB Hi Fi and supposedly Borders (though the store is on hold). In total, upon full completion there will be 300+ stores, with each street frontage having flagship stores with quality facades.

Other developments outside of the Pitt Street Mall include the opening of LV's largest store in Australia (3 st/1000 sq m+) and Burberry's largest store in Australia (817 sq m).

There is further scope for mid and high end brands to open in Sydney with retail activity in the midtown area (near the Apple store a prime site is going to be developed for the likes of Uniqlo/Forever 21/H&M as well as the old Supre store underneath at Gowings, opposite QVB), Central Park (down on Broadway, lol) which is said to be aiming for 18 hour trading with street and urban retailers from NYC and Tokyo as well as food outlets and a health club, all across 5 floors and of course Barangaroo (which will have flagship overload potential), though most of these projects won't be finished til 2013 at the earliest.

Sorry again to spam your thread!!

BTW, Apple stores are totally awesome and it would be great for Auckland if Apple decides to open a flagship there

[DML2]

Westfield Albany is supposed to be expanded sometime isn't it? Does anyone know anything about that or is it just wishful thinking on my part?