High-Speed Rail in India

[eco_friends]

Many times it is said railways do not have funds...

But in real sense the funds are not utilised properly.
The cost at which a railway coach is made if properly monitered we can have great value from the same costing.

Everywhere when the project is of govt agencies the quality of material supplied , construction , speed of project implementation ...every where compromise is done.

The material of lesser value will not be purchased by the department , the higher the price you bid greater is the chance you get the contract .

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.... www.india-gst.com

[vsonline]

a huge hurdle in achieving 200 kmph on conventional tracks are the slow moving freight trains. as long as the tracks are not saperated there will be bottlenecks. goodthing we are working on dedecated freight corridors.

[saurav_68]

WAP - 5 : 5450 hp,25 kV ac, B.G. 160 km/hr. speed,3-phase drive
WAP-5 class locomotives employ advanced control and propulsion technology and are capable to deliver 5450 hp on rail. The locomotive has all the hallmarks of a high-speed propulsion unit viz. light weight, fully suspended drive and disc brake. Though presently, it has been certified for 160 kmph operation, the locomotive has been designed to give a service speed of 200 kmph with test speed potential of 225 kmph. Since IR is currently facing severe competition in Premium Passenger business market from commercial airlines, sooner or later.


Source:CLW Website

[World8115]

Railways shortlists 6 high-speed corridors

Source

Although introduction of Bullet trains on Indian Railway tracks is still a dream, the high-speed corridors have finally been identified by the Railway Board for pre-feasibility studies.

The governments of respective states through which the project would pass, have also agreed to share the cost of the project.

According to a Railway Board official, railway minister Mamata Banerjee has given her nod to this ambitious project conceptualized long back. Railways has identified six corridors for conducting pre-feasibility tests for running high-speed trains. They are Delhi-Agra-Lucknow-Varanasi-Patna (991 km), Delhi-Chandigarh-Amritsar (450 km), Pune-Mumbai-Ahmedabad (650 km), Hyderabad-Darnakal-Vijaywada-Chennai (644 km), Chennai-Bangalore-Coimbatore-Ernakulam (649 km) and Howrah-Haldia (135 km), he said.

Under the plan, railways intends to run some trains at the speed of 160 km to 200 km per hour while a few pairs of trains would have restriction to run at the speed of 160 km to 180 km per hour in different zones of railways due to track condition.

The high-speed train corridors have become the need of the hour for railways to face competition with air services. The railways is keen to provide fast running trains to people on the pattern of European countries. The high-speed corridors would thus fulfil the needs of railways at a time when it is facing tough competition with air and road transport services, said the Railway Board official.

According to him, the Patna-New Delhi route seems to be the most viable for converting it into a high-speed corridor. Tracks of superfine quality have replaced the old tracks all along the route. However, signalling system is yet to be improved on this particular route, he said.

According to sources, a high-level team comprising Railway Board officials has already held meetings with different state governments in connection with the survey work of the project's pre-feasibility.

In Bihar, Railways intends to carry out the pre-feasibility test at a cost of about Rs 15 crore, sources said, adding the total area falling under Bihar is about 200 km while the rest falls under the jurisdiction of Uttar Pradesh and Delhi state government. Introduction of high-speed trains would yield revenue to the railways as well-off passengers would prefer to travel by these trains. Railways must get uninterrupted power supply to run high-speed trains. IIT, Kharagpur, has been working on this project to make the dream project of railways a reality, sources said.

[Bombay2Calcutta]

I thought Railways have already short listed these routes long time back. What is new in this news ? I guess after 10 ten day or after a month we will get another news with the following heading .
"Railways finalizes 6 high-speed corridors"

and then the same news will be repeated again. Need to see some tangible actions from the Railways.

[saurav_68]

Originally Posted by World8115

Railways shortlists 6 high-speed corridors

Source

When this report was published?Seems too old....

[Bombay2Calcutta]

Kumod Verma, TNN, Mar 31, 2011, 07.06pm IST

[Arul Murugan]

"According to him, the Patna-New Delhi route seems to be the most viable for converting it into a high-speed corridor. Tracks of superfine quality have replaced the old tracks all along the route. However, signalling system is yet to be improved on this particular route, he said"

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So they are going to convert the existing tracks into high speed track or going for new alignment?

Looking at above statement, mostly it will be upgrading the existing tracks and run trains with same oldie blue dabbas.

But it does not suit with KM in the bracket!

Anyway this could be easy way for IR to give the taste of high speed trains in another 20years. If they go for new alignment mostly it will take more than 50years.

[niknak]

Here is my recommendation for the HSRL- The 2 corridors should be Chennai-Mumbai via Bangalore and Hyderabad and the second from Mumbai to Delhi via Ahmedabad

[IndiaAndBharat]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

"According to him, the Patna-New Delhi route seems to be the most viable for converting it into a high-speed corridor. Tracks of superfine quality have replaced the old tracks all along the route. However, signalling system is yet to be improved on this particular route, he said"

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So they are going to convert the existing tracks into high speed track or going for new alignment?

Looking at above statement, mostly it will be upgrading the existing tracks and run trains with same oldie blue dabbas.

But it does not suit with KM in the bracket!

Anyway this could be easy way for IR to give the taste of high speed trains in another 20years. If they go for new alignment mostly it will take more than 50years.

Upgrading the existing lines is the correct way to go forward.... IMO...
Once that is done we can start building the dedicated corridors...

I am hopeful and optimistic that it will not take 20 years... It should happen very soon (at least 1 or 2 corridors in the next 3-5 years)...

Regarding the "oldie blue dabbas", I hope they will also upgrade their designs and have better coaches and engines...

[Bombay2Calcutta]

Yes , Upgrading the existing tracks should definitely be the way fwd , but should they be used to run HSR is dabatable . This is because the exiting tracks not only runs through congested localities where people still come out top take a walk on the rail tracks , where the cycle walas still cross over the rail tracks when the fataks are down and then there will be an odd cow who will decide to cross the tracks . If these tracks can be barricaded , the railways crossing removed and convereted to flyovers and the stations along the routes can be upgraded to have proper ROBs then definitely we can run HSR on these upgraded tracks.

[qwertyasd]

If there were enough laws allowing states to start their own high-speed trains, we would see a lot more high-speed rails in the country. Today, the Railways is the bottleneck.

[purty_trash]

agreed! Railways is like an individual nation within nation. It has its own budget, own schools, hospitals and employs the largest number of people too.

[anidel]

Originally Posted by purty_trash

agreed! Railways is like an individual nation within nation. It has its own budget, own schools, hospitals and employs the largest number of people too.

Add to that list:

Own security force, own telecoms network, factories, service centers, companies, restaurants, hotels and what not.

[IndiaAndBharat]

Lets start posting about the existing fast trains in India, like Delhi Metro AE trains, Shatabdis, Durontos, Rajdhanis etc. and post their pics, descriptions - including the interiors....

This is a suggestion as these are the trains which come closest to the HSR and currently operational in India...

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

Looking at above statement, mostly it will be upgrading the existing tracks and run trains with same oldie blue dabbas.

What is there with the Blue Dabbas regarding speed? They are nice for a typical Indian country. The day time Express Trains, can be upgraded with modern coaches and can be made EMUs with modern coaches from Bombardier / anyother player.

Even now, some of the engines are having capacity of running upto 200 kmph speed. So initially, a single section can be upgraded can be tested. If it is successful, all tracks can be upgraded in phases and any new tracks laid, can be laid with the capacity of supporting higher speed.

[downunder1]

Originally Posted by IndiaAndBharat

Upgrading the existing lines is the correct way to go forward.... IMO...

Regarding the "oldie blue dabbas", I hope they will also upgrade their designs and have better coaches and engines...

High Speed trains cannot be run with the existing Blue coaches. Technically unfeasible. They are meant for speeds of only up to 110 kmph (and 120 in some restricted cases). For high speed trains of 160-180-200 kmph, we need Airconditioned coaches. Open windows will lead to air drag. In today's date, LHB coaches of Rajdhani, Shatabdi and Duronto trains are capable of 160 kmph speeds except that we need to deal with other "ground realities" to manage high speeds. The only exception is Bhopal Shatabdi running at 150 kmph between Palwal and Agra.

[lopsarong]

Wow! such a great structure. I can't believe it..I didn't know that!

[Bombay2Calcutta]

[Gansan]

Translation please?