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[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by charpentier

Waccamatt, I introduce BADGUY, he's a basket player !

Hi Badguy. I love basketball. I am going to a game tomorrow afternoon between the Gamecocks and the Gators (the bad guys). Merci, Charpentier.

[charpentier]

You'll say to 'the surf' that it's certainly not him who will impede me (to have the freedom) to love South Carolina and United States. Otherwise Gamecocks citizens are very friendly.
What camaro78cocks means with "se coucher", sleep or more ? Who are the clemson ? Taters only ?

In the north of France we've LOSC (Lille) soccer team, the 'sang et or' (blood and gold) soccer team, alway in 'première ligue' and also the Sedan soccer team, green flag for the Ardennes forest, sometimes the fans bring with them a real boar into the stadium !

[charpentier]

You spoke the Sand Hills. They take part of The Piedmont or it's a different region ? You know that the Appalache moutains was formed by the gathering of two continents : Laurentia (North America) and Gondwana, but France also was formed by this gathering !

Talk about Ardennes forest recall to me that the Appalachians and Ardennes was very hight moutains, eroded today.
First, in the Silurian era (~420 milions years) Avalonia (North of France-British Islands, part of Baltica) touched Laurentia. The south of France (and spain) was to the north of Gondwana, separated of Laurentia by the Rheic ocean (A part of France - the center- was and island, near Gondawana).
Since 400 millions years, at the beginning of Devonian era, the Central Massif (Auvergne) was forming, the ocean was closing.

In Carbonifer era Gondwana and Laurenta meet each other, the new continent is called Little Pangea. At this time (350/300 millions years), north and south of France meet each other also, great mountains are raising. This is the Caledonian Range (Appalache, Scotland), All this region is covered by jungle, which give the actual coal (of Appalachian M., England, North of France, German Ruhr, Silesia, Ukraine). > A jungle because this carbonifer forest pinpointed on the equator.
It's from the Jurassic era (~200 millions years) that the current continents was constituted with the birth of Atlantic, but we can say that is thank to the encouter of Laurentia that France was consituted...
Emeritus Professor Charpentier (i'm thirsty)

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by charpentier

You'll say to 'the surf' that it's certainly not him who will impede me (to have the freedom) to love South Carolina and United States. Otherwise Gamecocks citizens are very friendly.
What camaro78cocks means with "se coucher", sleep or more ? Who are the clemson ? Taters only ?

In the north of France we've LOSC (Lille) soccer team, the 'sang et or' (blood and gold) soccer team, alway in 'première ligue' and also the Sedan soccer team, green flag for the Ardennes forest, sometimes the fans bring with them a real boar into the stadium !

The "Taters" are the Gamecocks' arch-rivals in every sport. The are the uncouth and we are the refined gentlemen of our fair state (aside from the idiot, "the surf"). A Tater is a nickname for a potato. Their real name is Clemson University and their mascot is the Tiger. (le tigre?) I looked up gamecock on babelfish and it translated it to coq de combat! I had always thought gamecock was chanticleer in French. Since it is not, what is a chanticleer?

The team with the wild boar sounds like alot of fun. I love a rowdy and boisterous crowd, it gets my blood flowing. I go to gamecocks soccer games occasionally, but soccer (is it called football or soccer in France?) is not as popular as American football. At USC we have maximum crowds of about 5,000 for soccer, 18,000 for basketball and 85,000 for football.

I liked the sports complex in the pictures of Lille. Everything looks very clean and well cared for. I bet the games are alot of fun!

I am going to get a of wine.

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by charpentier

You spoke the Sand Hills. They take part of The Piedmont or it's a different region ? You know that the Appalache moutains was formed by the gathering of two continents : Laurentia (North America) and Gondwana, but France also was formed by this gathering !

Talk about Ardennes forest recall to me that the Appalachians and Ardennes was very hight moutains, eroded today.
First, in the Silurian era (~420 milions years) Avalonia (North of France-British Islands, part of Baltica) touched Laurentia. The south of France (and spain) was to the north of Gondwana, separated of Laurentia by the Rheic ocean (A part of France - the center- was and island, near Gondawana).
Since 400 millions years, at the beginning of Devonian era, the Central Massif (Auvergne) was forming, the ocean was closing.

In Carbonifer era Gondwana and Laurenta meet each other, the new continent is called Little Pangea. At this time (350/300 millions years), north and south of France meet each other also, great mountains are raising. This is the Caledonian Range (Appalache, Scotland), All this region is covered by jungle, which give the actual coal (of Appalachian M., England, North of France, German Ruhr, Silesia, Ukraine). > A jungle because this carbonifer forest pinpointed on the equator.
It's from the Jurassic era (~200 millions years) that the current continents was constituted with the birth of Atlantic, but we can say that is thank to the encouter of Laurentia that France was consituted...
Emeritus Professor Charpentier (i'm thirsty)

Professor Charpentier, I am very impressed with your knowledge of geology and geography! My fortes are geography and meteorology. I especially love tracking snowstorms and hurricanes. I have a huge hurricane tracking map on my bathroom wall. I know that storms do not reach Europe as hurricanes. Is there much interest in them? I saw that Lille may be getting some snow this weekend. Lucky!

I used to love to draw maps when I was a child. You are correct about the appalachian mountain range. They were once very tall, but they have eroded away to a great degree. The tallest appalachian peak is not far from me (about 250 km) and it is only about 2100 meters in elevation. The appalachians are beautiful, though. The part of the appalachian chain near me are called the Great Smoky Mountains because they have a smoky haze around their peaks.

The sandhills are in the area where the piedmont becomes the coastal plain (the fall line). Columbia is located on the fall line. Our rivers have rapids that many people use for kayaking or rafting. (I am not quite that brave) There are alot of sand mines and granite quarries in the area. Where the soil is not sand, it is clay. Columbia is a major brick manufacturing area as well as being the seat of government and education. My sister-in-law is originally from Boston and she always gets a kick out of seeing the clay soil! What are the major products of Lille? And the major agricultural products of the nearby countryside?

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by waccamatt

I had always thought gamecock was chanticleer in French. Since it is not, what is a chanticleer? Is it called football or soccer in France? I liked the sports complex in the pictures of Lille. Everything looks very clean and well cared for.

Chanticleer don't exist in french. http://www.etymonline.com Then > C and number : 10.
In french we would written 'chanteclair'.
One mustered to build another stadium at the est of the 'Citadelle', but associations friends of the Citadelle refuse this construction. They play up the impact on the historic setting, and pull the works off ! We're expecting...
Yes we say 'football' never 'soccer'.

[waccamatt]

That's right! Chanticleer was the rooster's name! Cockadoodledoooooooo. I love roosters.

One mustered to build another stadium at the est of the 'Citadelle', but associations friends of the Citadelle refuse this construction. They play up the impact on the historic setting, and pull the works off !

It's always a tough call between saving history and building for progress. I usually lean towards saving historical places if they still have a use, but new construction sure is fun! These smilies are fun too! I wonder how they make these? Charpentier, I wish I could bring the dancing gamecock over to SSC.

It's Saturday night. Why am I here instead of at the Art Bar?

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by waccamatt

The "Taters" are the Gamecocks' arch-rivals in every sport. The are the uncouth and we are the refined gentlemen of our fair state (aside from the idiot, "the surf"). A Tater is a nickname for a potato. Their real name is Clemson University and their mascot is the Tiger. (le tigre?) I looked up gamecock on babelfish and it translated it to coq de combat! I had always thought gamecock was chanticleer in French. Since it is not, what is a chanticleer?

The team with the wild boar sounds like alot of fun. I love a rowdy and boisterous crowd, it gets my blood flowing. I go to gamecocks soccer games occasionally, but soccer (is it called football or soccer in France?) is not as popular as American football. At USC we have maximum crowds of about 5,000 for soccer, 18,000 for basketball and 85,000 for football.

Yes you are gentlemen (Frencock is french or not ? ).
In the Nord-Pas-de-Calais, we organize roosters battles, I've never saw that and I don't like . The Grammont Law forbad these combats but wasn't respecting, they was authorized in 1964 with a reglementation (the fight during 6 min maximum…), they take place in 'gallodromes'. There are roosters battles also in the oversea departement of Martinique.
I like roosters these are very clever and proud animals, and the last from our barnyard is dead, very old, next year, we can't eat him of course, fortunately your gamecock mascot will never die !
You love crowds, me the loneliness, hiking and biking in forest, it's the difference between the city and the country, but I love the city too. You as a hurricane lover you like the wind of madness also, amid the crowd. By the way one refused to Lille the organization of the olympic games with the pretext that would have too wind here !

[Mekky II]

The initial project of new LOSC stadium, it was really nice... 35 000 seats, not bad, maybe a little bit small compared to the Lille Métropole area, but the mayor of Lille continues to promise a "mega" stadium..

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by waccamatt

Professor Charpentier, I am very impressed with your knowledge of geology and geography! My fortes are geography and meteorology. I especially love tracking snowstorms and hurricanes. I have a huge hurricane tracking map on my bathroom wall. I know that storms do not reach Europe as hurricanes. Is there much interest in them? I saw that Lille may be getting some snow this weekend. Lucky!

I used to love to draw maps when I was a child. You are correct about the appalachian mountain range. They were once very tall, but they have eroded away to a great degree. The tallest appalachian peak is not far from me (about 250 km) and it is only about 2100 meters in elevation. The appalachians are beautiful, though. The part of the appalachian chain near me are called the Great Smoky Mountains because they have a smoky haze around their peaks.

The sandhills are in the area where the piedmont becomes the coastal plain (the fall line). Columbia is located on the fall line. Our rivers have rapids that many people use for kayaking or rafting. (I am not quite that brave) There are alot of sand mines and granite quarries in the area. Where the soil is not sand, it is clay. Columbia is a major brick manufacturing area as well as being the seat of government and education. My sister-in-law is originally from Boston and she always gets a kick out of seeing the clay soil! What are the major products of Lille? And the major agricultural products of the nearby countryside?

For study hurricanes you is in a good place in South Carolina, it's frightening, isn't it ? You must be a Etruscan harruspice descendant. They were studying the flashes of lightenning, theirs form, their origin, their impacts, etc. It was a really science. They gone on the impact point translate the message and erect a stone. If an impact happened in the city, canned interpret this as inauspicious, disfound the city and reconstruct elsewhere !
Famous sentence from Seneque : "Between Etruscans and us (Stoics), there is this difference : We think that the lightenning is throwed because the clouds knock against other, but them estimate that the clouds knock each other in order to throw the thunderbolt. Indeed, since they refer all things at the divinity, they don't think that lightening has a signification because that's occur, but because occur in order to signify."
Thus according to the Etruscan the celestial phenomenons are godlike messages directed to the mortal. I draw still maps of real or fictive countries and cities.
The Nord-Pas-de-Calais forms one cultural region ch'ti/picard aside a zone between Armentières and Dunkerque who is Flemish.
Series and feature film directors like to work in our region, lots of films have been realized here : 'Camille Claudel with Isabelle Adjani, 'Roselyne et les lions by Jean-Jacques Beineix, 'Le Masque de Fer with Di Caprio, 'Germinal by Claude Berri, 'Les Visiteurs I and II with Jean Reno and Christian Clavier, and others.
Nord-Pas-de-Calais isn't an industrial region anymore, it's the 4th service sector region in France ; but its agriculture is always the most efficient, the best yield.
The region is divide in two : soil of chalk and clay (low plateaux) and from Maubeuge to Dunkerque a sedimentary terrain (valleys).
The south-est (Avesnois) with its groves is specialized to the dairy production. The major agricultural products are potatoes and beet sugar. Near Lille towards Douai and Valenciennes are fruits and vegetables cultivations. The specialties are tobacco (north), strawberries near Boulogne, endives in the south of Cambrai and around Lille, chicory near Dunkerque, Calais and Bethune, garlic near douai, cabbages from Saint-Omer, hops above all in Flanders and honey in Avesnois. Lot of cheeses and candies like 'bêtises de Cambrai, 'bacoules, 'bhiques, 'nieulles, 'sottises de Valenciennes, 'babeluttes (~toffees) in Lille, 'galantine etc. Of course on the coastline all the restaurants propose fresh seafoods !

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by Mekky II

The initial project of new LOSC stadium, it was really nice... 35 000 seats, not bad, maybe a little bit small compared to the Lille Métropole area, but the mayor of Lille continues to promise a "mega" stadium..

Merci Mekky II. I want this stadium.

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by charpentier

Yes you are gentlemen (Frencock is french or not ? ).
In the Nord-Pas-de-Calais, we organize roosters battles, I've never saw that and I don't like . The Grammont Law forbad these combats but wasn't respecting, they was authorized in 1964 with a reglementation (the fight during 6 min maximum…), they take place in 'gallodromes'. There are roosters battles also in the oversea departement of Martinique.
I like roosters these are very clever and proud animals, and the last from our barnyard is dead, very old, next year, we can't eat him of course, fortunately your gamecock mascot will never die !
You love crowds, me the loneliness, hiking and biking in forest, it's the difference between the city and the country, but I love the city too. You as a hurricane lover you like the wind of madness also, amid the crowd. By the way one refused to Lille the organization of the olympic games with the pretext that would have too wind here !

I believe Frencock is a USC Masters in International Business student or graduate. USC is renowned for its International Business School and students are required to intern abroad for one year. I believe I remember Frencock say that his was in France, but I may be thinking of someone else.

Cockfighting (rooster battles) is also illegal here, but some people still hold illegal fights in rural areas of South Carolina. Our State Commissioner of Agriculture had to resign last year for attending one!

That is too bad about Lille being refused the Olympics because of wind. I would think if the playing field is the same for everyone it wouldn't matter. I know Paris, London and New York are all bidding to host the 2012 games. Are those the games that Lille wanted to host?

I am very sorry to hear of the demise of your grandpa rooster.

I enjoy biking as well. We have a riverfront park here that is excellent for biking. For hiking I enjoy a place near here called Peachtree Rock. It is the only place in the world where desert, mountain and beach flora all grow naturally. One would never expect cacti to grow in a moist place like South Carolina, but they do at Peachtree Rock!

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by Mekky II

The initial project of new LOSC stadium, it was really nice... 35 000 seats, not bad, maybe a little bit small compared to the Lille Métropole area, but the mayor of Lille continues to promise a "mega" stadium..

I like the design very much. Especially the multi-colors.

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by waccamatt

I like the design very much. Especially the multi-colors.

Red is the color of LOSC.

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by charpentier

candies like 'bêtises de Cambrai, 'bacoules, 'bhiques, 'nieulles, 'sottises de Valenciennes, 'babeluttes (~toffees) in Lille, 'galantine etc. Of course on the coastline all the restaurants propose fresh seafoods !

Beware. Strange mispellings : it's not - 'bacoules, 'bhique, but - 'cacoule, 'chiques.
Strange because 'Bêtise means 'idiocy, 'goof because this candy results of an blunder : http://www.betises-de-cambrai.com/hten/

[Mekky II]

On a traduit chocolat, parce qu'après tout c'est international, mais les trucs artisanaux comme les bêtises de Cambrai, je pense pas qu'il faille le traduire. En France on dit bien "pudding" ou "sushi", je pense qu'ils peuvent dire "bêtises" comme "bordeaux" ou "champagne" ;o)

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by charpentier

For study hurricanes you is in a good place in South Carolina, it's frightening, isn't it ? You must be a Etruscan harruspice descendant. They were studying the flashes of lightenning, theirs form, their origin, their impacts, etc. It was a really science. They gone on the impact point translate the message and erect a stone. If an impact happened in the city, canned interpret this as inauspicious, disfound the city and reconstruct elsewhere !
Famous sentence from Seneque : "Between Etruscans and us (Stoics), there is this difference : We think that the lightenning is throwed because the clouds knock against other, but them estimate that the clouds knock each other in order to throw the thunderbolt. Indeed, since they refer all things at the divinity, they don't think that lightening has a signification because that's occur, but because occur in order to signify."
Thus according to the Etruscan the celestial phenomenons are godlike messages directed to the mortal. I draw still maps of real or fictive countries and cities.
The Nord-Pas-de-Calais forms one cultural region ch'ti/picard aside a zone between Armentières and Dunkerque who is Flemish.
Series and feature film directors like to work in our region, lots of films have been realized here : 'Camille Claudel with Isabelle Adjani, 'Roselyne et les lions by Jean-Jacques Beineix, 'Le Masque de Fer with Di Caprio, 'Germinal by Claude Berri, 'Les Visiteurs I and II with Jean Reno and Christian Clavier, and others.
Nord-Pas-de-Calais isn't an industrial region anymore, it's the 4th service sector region in France ; but its agriculture is always the most efficient, the best yield.
The region is divide in two : soil of chalk and clay (low plateaux) and from Maubeuge to Dunkerque a sedimentary terrain (valleys).
The south-est (Avesnois) with its groves is specialized to the dairy production. The major agricultural products are potatoes and beet sugar. Near Lille towards Douai and Valenciennes are fruits and vegetables cultivations. The specialties are tobacco (north), strawberries near Boulogne, endives in the south of Cambrai and around Lille, chicory near Dunkerque, Calais and Bethune, garlic near douai, cabbages from Saint-Omer, hops above all in Flanders and honey in Avesnois. Lot of cheeses and candies like 'bêtises de Cambrai, 'bacoules, 'bhiques, 'nieulles, 'sottises de Valenciennes, 'babeluttes (~toffees) in Lille, 'galantine etc. Of course on the coastline all the restaurants propose fresh seafoods !

Professor, your post has made me hungry for seafood. I just rode to a nearby restaurant to pickup some shrimp! The cheeses and candies sound good, too! Perhaps some chocolate for dessert!

We have some of the same agricultural products here in the Midlands. Pick your own strawberry farms and peaches galore. South Carolina is a huge peach growing area along with tobacco, soybeans, figs and dairy cattle. There are several emu and ostrich farms near here, also.

South Carolina is in an area that sometimes is affected by hurricanes, but I am about 100 miles ~160 km inland, so they are not as much of a problem in Columbia...just some rain and wind. Charleston though, had a very bad hurricane about 15 years ago named Hurricane Hugo. The downtown area was completely flooded and the barrier islands were completely washed over by the ocean! Everything is rebuilt now and life goes on. They are amazing storms and I track them every year during hurricane season. (June-November) We have a television channel completely devoted to weather 24 hours a day. Now I also love snow! The rain we are having today is supposed to turn to snow tonight in upper South Carolina. I hope the forecasters are wrong and it moves further south so that we may have some snow tonight. If that happens..... and

I draw still maps of real or fictive countries and cities. I do too. I design city plans and skyscrapers (very much an amateur) on my computer. I was looking at my pictures from Calais last night. Calais looks fairly close to Lille.

[waccamatt]

His mother scolded him: "Your sweets are no good! You're useless! Another piece of foolishness!"

Mothers seem to be the same everywhere!

[charpentier]

Lille competed for the olympic games of 2004, with eleven other cities : http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/athens/election_uk.asp
Today, I support Paris despite its too modest plan at my opinion.

[charpentier]

Originally Posted by Mekky II

On a traduit chocolat, parce qu'après tout c'est international, mais les trucs artisanaux comme les bêtises de Cambrai, je pense pas qu'il faille le traduire. En France on dit bien "pudding" ou "sushi", je pense qu'ils peuvent dire "bêtises" comme "bordeaux" ou "champagne" ;o)

Je n'ai pas traduit, j'expliquais seulement pourquoi on les appelait bêtises. Sinon je suis d'accord, on ne peut traduire les produits artisanaux.