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Old March 29th, 2011, 05:48 AM   #1
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NEW YORK | 220 Central Park | 176m | 577ft | 41 fl | Demo

A 176m/41 story tower designed by Pelli Clarke Pelli will rise on this site.

The building is empty and permits were filed in late June 2010 for the barriers to be used in connection with demolition.

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Old March 29th, 2011, 05:49 AM   #2
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...922583306.html

Vornado Project Hits Hard Spot






By ELIOT BROWN
March 28, 2011



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Just when developer Steven Roth thought he had cleared his biggest hurdle for a planned new skyscraper on Central Park's southern edge, here comes Gary Barnett.

For more than five years, Mr. Roth's Vornado Realty Trust has been trying to clear out the renters in its 20-story apartment building at 220 Central Park South. The goal was to knock down the building and erect a soaring luxury condo tower with sweeping views of the park in its place. Vornado agreed in December to spend $40 million paying off the remaining apartment tenants, who are now moving out.

But Vornado has a final and unlikely holdout: Mr. Barnett, the rival developer and president of Extell Development Company.

A few years ago, Mr. Barnett bought the lease to the parking garage in the white-brick apartment building, according to people familiar with the situation. Mr. Barnett has thus far rebuffed the attempts of Mr. Roth to purchase the lease, the people said.

While talks continue between the parties, Extell's continued hold on that underground garage's lease would block, or greatly complicate, Vornado's attempts to demolish the 1950s building.

Mr. Barnett's strategy remains unclear. But holdouts often succeed in extracting big payments from developers eager to break ground. Mr. Barnett also owns an adjacent property and has expressed a desire to develop in the area.

"I have the greatest respect for Vornado and its team of executives," Mr. Barnett said Sunday in a statement. "We hope to resolve any issues concerning these buildings in a mutually satisfactory manner."

Battles between developers and holdouts are common in the bare-knuckled culture of New York real estate, often tying projects up for years. The Durst family, for instance, waited more than three decades to buy out the last property owners for a site on 42nd Street and Sixth Avenue and develop the Bank of America tower.

Rarely, however, do the fights involve high-profile developers at opposite sides of the table. Vornado is one of the city's largest office landlords, built up over the past 30 years by Mr. Roth, a hard-charging negotiator. Mr. Barnett, a former diamond trader, is among the city's most active developers and is currently building a 75-story high-end hotel and apartment tower across from Carnegie Hall.

Vornado, along with development partner Clarett Group, bought the 124-unit building at 220 Central Park for $131 million in 2005. The developers planned a 41-story condo tower to rise in its place. Central Park is prime real estate, and new apartment buildings aren't built there very often. Vornado's latest quarterly regulatory filing put the development's cost at between $400 million and $425 million.

Soon after Vornado bought it, the project ran into resistance from rent-regulated tenants in the building. They sued in 2007, arguing that Vornado hadn't followed the law for removing them.

The legal challenge dragged on until December 2010, when the remaining tenants settled. Vornado spread $40 million to buy out renters of 26 units, according to property records.

Mr. Barnett remains. His lease lasts about six more years, people familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Barnett's ownership of a neighboring lot on 58th Street could factor into negotiations. He has filed plans with the Department of Buildings for a permit to construct an 18-story apartment building there. That lot is sandwiched by another property owned by Vornado and Clarett, a small building at 229 West 58th Street.

If Mr. Barnett doesn't budge, Vornado might be able to still erect its building over the existing garage. But it would be much more expensive, if even possible.

This isn't the first time Mr. Barnett has butted heads with a heavyweight in New York City real estate. A decade ago, he unsuccessfully sued to block construction of the New York Times tower on 41st Street after the state tried to seize land owned by Mr. Barnett for the Forest City Ratner project. And in 2005, he made an unexpected bid to the M.T.A. in an attempt to offer an alternative to another Forest City project, the Atlantic Yards basketball arena and housing development in Brooklyn.

It also isn't the first time the Columbus Circle neighborhood has seen a clash of the real estate titans. Last year, Stephen Ross, chairman of the Related Companies, made an unsuccessful hostile bid to foreclose on and demolish 1775 Broadway, a building a block away owned by large landlord Joseph Moinian.


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Old March 30th, 2011, 06:50 PM   #3
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when will it rise?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 09:36 PM   #4
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apparently not very soon.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 04:46 AM   #5
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I wouldn't be so sure. Getting the tenants out was the biggest hurdle which took many years. Barnett clearly wants a piece of this and Vornado most likely will let him in.
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Hey! I was there yesterday and i saw that they have start with the demolition
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Old April 17th, 2011, 12:06 AM   #7
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Thanks for the info. I think it's safe to change the status to DEMO then..
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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #8
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no problem i saw just that they are working at the facade. I will show the photos in a few days.
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From 19.4.2011







this is the proof
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Old April 30th, 2011, 09:45 PM   #10
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There are a lot of buildings planned in this area including:

1. Carnegie 57
2. 225 W 57th
3. Torre Verre
4. 38 E 57th/440 Park Ave.
5. 220 CPS
6. 250 E 57th.

The first four, moreover, will all exceed 300m.
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There are a lot of buildings planned in this area including:

1. Carnegie 57
2. 225 W 57th
3. Torre Verre
4. 38 E 57th/440 Park Ave.
5. 220 CPS
6. 250 E 57th.

The first four, moreover, will all exceed 300m.
i made photos from another site which is also in the 59th street but a little more west but also facing the central park. i must delete those pics sorry. do you know anything about that?
its in the same construction phase like the 220 west
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Old April 30th, 2011, 10:56 PM   #12
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There are four towers on 59th and 11th designed by de Portzamparc and developed by Extell. They're adjacent to an utterly magnificent pyramid structure of about 30 stories.
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There are four towers on 59th and 11th designed by de Portzamparc and developed by Extell. They're adjacent to an utterly magnificent pyramid structure of about 30 stories.
where do you find those infos?
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the photos are all wrong...

sorry
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Old May 1st, 2011, 02:52 AM   #15
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where do you find those infos?
I live in NY.
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I live in NY.
ok, i think then its certenly easy to get the infos
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Threads exist for both projects.

Here is the pyramid. It will be around 150m tall.

image hosted on flickr


Here's the thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1318319

Here are the five towers by de Portzamparc. They're seen on the right side of the rendering.



I believe that a thread exists on this site for that project.
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do you have also a photo from this project 220 central park?
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No. A rendering has not been released yet.
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ok thanks, im not sure but are they demolishing now 3 buildings at the 59th which is facing the central park?

thats a lot
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